So LD can cause some of the autoimmune disease we have??? I am confused, SORRY! Redundant me!

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stutterbug
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   Posted 4/4/2010 10:36 AM (GMT -6)   
I know this may be a bit redundant, but I am just making sure I understand. Ld can be the cause of some of our autoimmune diseaseS???  If so, does that mean if the LD is put in check the other "diseases" will go away???  Or is the damage done????

Razzle
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   Posted 4/4/2010 10:50 AM (GMT -6)   
It is believed that Lyme can trigger the onset of autoimmune disease. In fact, this is one of the "pet" theories put forth by the CDC to explain symptoms after what they recommend as "adequate" Lyme treatment. Unfortunately, they don't have proof that there isn't an ongoing lyme infection at the root of this supposed autoimmune process...

So to answer your other questions, we don't know for sure. Some feel they have sufficiently conquered the Lyme and are only dealing with damage caused by the Lyme infection. Others feel that they have a concurrent infection plus autoimmunity that was triggered by the Lyme.

And it is possible that someone could have an autoimmune condition already, and then become infected with Lyme, so that person would most certainly have both. I know there is a chicken-and-egg argument here, but I do not believe all autoimmune disease is Lyme even though I do believe Lyme is fully capable of triggering autoimmunity.

Can the other disease go away once the Lyme is gone? Possibly, but not definately. I have heard of others finding relief from various diseases after getting treatment for Lyme...and I have heard of some who still need to deal with their other disease(s) after Lyme treatment. It depends on the individual/situation.

The above is my opinion only. I am not a doctor, I just read a lot.

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-Razzle
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stutterbug
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   Posted 4/4/2010 11:01 AM (GMT -6)   
RAZZLE:: I saw you were on line and I just KNEW you would take the time to help me. Thank you, I really mean this. I COMPLETELY understand now. -- Have a Happy Easter! love, amey

Razzle
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   Posted 4/4/2010 11:19 AM (GMT -6)   
Glad to help - have a Happy Easter and take care,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Bartonella (clinical dx only), Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, etc.; G-Tube; Currently weaning off TPN.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Doxycycline, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Singulair, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (topically & nasally), probiotics, Liver support herbs, Ailanthus, digestive enzymes, homeopathy.


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   Posted 4/4/2010 12:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Well put Razzle!!
It's been said:LD patients can be as ill as people w/ congest. heart failure & in as much pain as post-op patients.


CajunGrl
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   Posted 4/4/2010 5:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, well put! You explained it alot better than I could, lol.
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   Posted 4/5/2010 8:51 AM (GMT -6)   
Razzle, I believe you really hit the nail on the head on this one! In fact, I think all this is the very reason for so much controversy -- no one knows or can figure out which came first, the chicken or the egg, and that, in fact, in people, this probably differs for a lot of folks! Let's keep on thinking and trying to figure this out!
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   Posted 4/5/2010 10:38 AM (GMT -6)   
As one who lives with several autoimmune diseases, I can tell you that anything that stimulates the immune system can trigger an autoimmune disease if you're genetically and constitutionally predisposed. So, like any infection, Lyme or coinfections could be the beginning of a very "interesting" future.
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