Increased Bilirubin

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Dowa
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   Posted 4/4/2010 11:52 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Everyone: Happy Easter to all of you. I wanted to ask if any of you have increased bilirubin when you have your blood chemistry checked. I am not on any medication. Doc said it was "nothing to worry about." Dont you just love it when they say that. I have no LLMD  just an internest. Do any of you know if Lyme can cause an elevated bilirubin? Thanks~ Dowa

mikazmat
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   Posted 4/4/2010 12:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Dowa, I was told by my LLMD that Bart can give you elevated, abnormal liver function blood test results. It wouldn't surprise me if LD can alter these levels also, it manages to mess up everything else.

Mik.

bucci
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   Posted 4/5/2010 4:12 AM (GMT -6)   
Dowa,
My doctor gave me IV glutathione and also IV sylamarin (milk thistle)
and the heavy metal (I BELIEVE) also makes trouble.
I also have HEP C so have been watching my liver for years. aand the enzymes.

I think when people are as sick as lyme that IV treatment is critical and not just for the antibiotics.
Too much tuff has gone on behind the lyme. You can google around about IV glutithone and other stuff.
People do IV hydrogen peroxide too and think it is big help.

supplements (I THINK) are only gonna get us so far after years of damage.

Of course you can also juice your tail off with every green thing you can get your hand on and coffee enema's is
an old and most effective rememdy for liver support and detox.
hep c , lyme
Dad has lyme


Razzle
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   Posted 4/5/2010 4:24 AM (GMT -6)   
Increased bilirubin could be from Lyme and/or coinfections (Bartonella, Ehrlichia/Anaplasma, that I know of...), or something else entirely. When MD's blow off abnormal lab results, that's when I start wondering what the point of having a "normal range" on a lab report is - why bother, if the doc's just going to ignore it! If it comes back higher next time you have labs, I would push for more info instead of tolerating another "blow job" by the doctor.

Livers are amazingly tolerant of all the abuse we give them (pollution, chemical food additives, imbalanced diets, infection/die-off, etc.), so when abnormal test values on a lab report start showing up, that means the liver has been struggling for a while and it is usually a good thing to pay attention to, even if the increase is small.

What to do at this point? Detox, detox, detox! It is the only way I know of to help the liver. Even if it's from a coinfection? Yes! The reason these infections elevate liver lab values is because of the buildup of gunk in the liver. Helping the liver to detox (through bile secretion) is the only way I know of to get rid of the gunk. Milk thistle (silymarin is the active ingredient), glutathione, detox baths, skin brushing, drinking more water, etc. are all good ways to help take the load off the liver and give it some breathing room so it can repair itself and get back to normal on those lab reports.

There is some excellent detox info in the newbies thread at the top of the forum...

Take care,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Bartonella (clinical dx only), Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, etc.; G-Tube; Currently weaning off TPN.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Doxycycline, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Singulair, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (topically & nasally), probiotics, Liver support herbs, Ailanthus, digestive enzymes, homeopathy.


Dowa
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   Posted 4/5/2010 11:38 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you to both of you for responding. Razzle, I agree with you 100% about the docs and the lab results. I also had elevated BUN levels so my liver and kidneys are "complaining" and she said "nothing to worry about." Right! I am disgusted and worried at the same time. I said just what you said, "whats the point in spending the money on lab work if you are not going to pay attention to it when it shows something is "off?" Oh well, I detox in bath everynight and have done a year of detox in a clinic here, dont have the funds to go back unfortunately. I will read more and actually have milk thisle here. How much would you suggest I start with or will full dose be ok? I have never used it. Thanks again Razzle, I can always count on you for an answer. Take care~  Dowa

Razzle
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   Posted 4/5/2010 3:49 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Dowa,

If I were you, I'd start with the smallest dose you can (i.e., 1 capsule/day) and gradually increase until you are at the full recommended dose on the product label (if you do ok with the herb). Some who have sulfur processing issues have trouble with milk thistle.

Take care,
-Razzle
Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Bartonella (clinical dx only), Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut issues (dysmotility, non-specific inflammation), UCTD ("Secondary Lupus-Like Syndrome"), Osteoporosis, chronic Lymphopenia, etc.; G-Tube; Currently weaning off TPN.
Meds:  Pulmicort, IV Doxycycline, Heparin (to flush PICC line), Claritin, Singulair, Domperidone, Colloidal Silver (topically & nasally), probiotics, Liver support herbs, Ailanthus, digestive enzymes, homeopathy.

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