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cindy lou hoo
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   Posted 5/2/2010 10:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello All
After reading Gary's post and talking with him and his wife (both wonderful people) I have decided to take the plunge into detox world and healing.  I have arrived tonight in Wichita, Kansas and will be going to the Hansa Center in the morning.  I welcome all prayers for me and my Husband and if anyone is interested, I will be posting my experiences there, as Gary did, for all who might want to visit.
I look forward to sharing with you all and helping to spread to the masses the paths of healing.  I am very excited and looking forward to better health!
 
little cindy lou hoo

GWB
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   Posted 5/3/2010 6:09 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello Cindy!

Glad you and your husband arrived safe to Wichita. So excited for you and am very much looking forward to your posts sharing your experiences with us. You can count on Rhonda and I praying for you daily.

Please greet all the gang at the front desk for us and say hello to Dr. David and Dr. Jowdy for us as well. You are gonna love your experience there.

We pray that your time at the Hansa Center will put you on the path to healing as it did me. I am confident it will!

Keep us posted!

Gary

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   Posted 5/4/2010 3:04 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Cindy,

Looking forward to reading about your experiences at the clinic. Best wishes for a successful and speedy healing!

bablymers mom

daisyrlb
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   Posted 5/4/2010 5:50 AM (GMT -6)   
You're in our prayers this morning, Cindy. Pray you have a blessed day!!

Gary and Rhonda

cindy lou hoo
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   Posted 5/4/2010 8:17 AM (GMT -6)   
Howdy all
Yesterdays appointments and test were beyond description. I don't know how to put all that into words. I learned an aweful lot about my body. Things I already knew and things I didn't. After testing, the Dr. put my illnesses in 10 priorities from worst to least.
I had a few treatments yesderday and am going for more this morning. I will write more when I get back for lunch.
cindy

cindy lou hoo
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   Posted 5/4/2010 8:17 AM (GMT -6)   
Howdy all
Yesterdays appointments and test were beyond description. I don't know how to put all that into words. I learned an aweful lot about my body. Things I already knew and things I didn't. After testing, the Dr. put my illnesses in 10 priorities from worst to least.
I had a few treatments yesderday and am going for more this morning. I will write more when I get back for lunch.
cindy

cindy lou hoo
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   Posted 5/4/2010 11:27 AM (GMT -6)   

Okay

I saw the Dr. this morning rather than this afternoon.  From my limited understanding, I gather that he has a way to communicate with my body which tells him what bacteria, virus, fungus, or alignments my body has, and then he asks my body what type of suppliments and or herbal remedies it needs.  He also addressed physical misalignments in my spin and pelvis (due to horseback riding and other abuses I've placed on myself).  This is really far out there and takes a shift in thinking for sure.    I've decided I don't need to understand it all.  There's no way I could really.  This is Kinisiology for sure, but they have developed a way to communicate with the body more effeciently than traditional muscle testing.  I normally would say that this is "kwackology" but I am enclined to believe I am already feeling better.  One particular pain I usually wake up with are swollen fingers in the morning, and I didn't wake up with them today.  Neither a naging pain where my gallbladder is located is completely gone!  Not a trace.  Go figure.  Could be a coincidence??? Time will tell.  I can say the herbal remedies taste very bitter, but warmed my belly.  Most of them I am suppose to take several times a day.  I'm wondering how I will remember to do that.

And for those of us who are smokers, he's addressing that too to eleviate the symptoms of detoxing.

I don't feel bad with the treatments, but then I haven't done them all yet.  Will have more done this afternoon.

I hope this helps you all!  I really think even with my skeptacism this is a good place.  Christian people with a scientific twist.  I'm not sure how I feel about that yet.

I'll be writing more this even... More to come!!!

Cindy


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   Posted 5/4/2010 2:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Cindy,

I had to chuckle at your "kwackology" comment. I know what you mean. I was very skeptical when I first went to the Hansa Center. I admit I was not a believer in this type of testing and treatment, but when you are near death, and when the conventional way of treatment is failing you, you get desperate and you're willing try almost anything. Not that I would have tried ANYTHING, no, but I definitely was not a believer in this type of testing and I was fairly leery of the kind of treatments that I knew I'd be getting at the Center prior to going there.

I explained to Dr. David upfront that I'm very skeptical of all this and probably will be your most skeptical patient ever. I told him that it seemed like a lot of hocus-pocus to me and I found it difficult to believe in this stuff. I "warned" him prior to taking me on that if he didn't like be questioned then he better not take me as a patient because I would question everything he does. He was very patient with me, but I'm sure he would have liked to knock me on the head a time or two. tongue

Whenever he did a treatment or therapy on me, I'd ask him, "why are you doing this?" When he'd put some stuff in my mouth, I'd say, "What are you giving me, and what's it for?" I constantly was questioning his every move, and when he had some remedies prepared for me I told him I wanted a list of ingredients of what was in it. He complied with everything I asked of him and answered all my questions and was quite patient with me (either that or he put on a good game face). smilewinkgrin

When he did the BRS testing on me I thought that was kinda weird, but the truth of the matter is, this testing method is extremely accurate and gives him far more information than most tests your LLMD will get from your blood tests, etc. He can tell if you have parasites, organ problems, co-infections, even things that aren't related to Lyme disease. Here's two quotes from his website regarding BRS testing,

"At last review, the results of BRS diagnostic findings have been confirmed by blood tests about 86% of the time."

"BRS enables the doctor to determine highly specific information – not only the presence of a pathology, but its degree of priority for healing in the patient's body."

The BRS testing was the very thing that I had the least confidence in, but when I left his office two weeks after my treatments, I became a believer. A lot of what you do in the beginning you basically have to do by faith and trust that he knows what he's doing, because he does. As the days goes on you will develop more confidence in the way they do things, especially when you start feeling better. I can say to this day, I don't understand everything about his testing methods and all of the treatments and therapies, but one thing I can say with absolute certainty, I'm better now than I've been in years. It really doesn't matter to me that I don't understand everything about the tests and therapies, but I do understand the end results--and I like them. :-) To me, that's all that matters.

What all therapies did you get today? Have you had the ST-8 Lymph Drainage yet or the Lux Therapy? What about my favorite of all--a massage from Melissa? Man, once you've had a massage from Melissa, you'll never want to leave that place! smilewinkgrin Have you done the infrared sauna yet? Normally they wait until they think you're ready for it. Curious if you done that yet or not? I hope you get the ionic foot bath today. You'll be amazed at all the gunk that comes out of you.

Your skepticism is normal and healthy. I'm sure that they are used to having people like us who go in with a lot of skepticism. It probably makes them work harder to get us well. wink I believe your skepticism will fade as the days go by, especially after you start seeing the improvements in your body. The important thing, as I'm sure you've been told frequently since arriving there, think positive. Cast all your negative thoughts out as that can block you from receiving healing. That was a hard one for this skeptic (me), but I was determined not to let my skeptical nature block me from getting the healing I so much wanted and needed. Keep your mind as positive as you can and immediately cast out all negative thoughts.

If there's anything negative that's bothering you, share it with the doctor so he can help you get through it. I had a couple of time when I needed to share my negative thoughts with him. He helped me get beyond what was blocking me with his words of encouragement. Don't hold back, share whatever is on your mind and let all the negative energy go. It really does make a BIG difference. And this is coming from the "king of skeptics". :-) Ask Dr David, he'll tell you that's the truth. We'll maybe he won't due to patient confidentiality--but tell him I said it's OK to tattle tell on me. tongue

I look forward to your next posting. Praying for you!

Gary

Post Edited (GWB) : 5/4/2010 4:46:12 PM (GMT-6)


daisyrlb
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   Posted 5/5/2010 6:06 AM (GMT -6)   
Don, thank you for sharing about your precious daughter. She sounds like an amazing young gal. Sorry she has been through so much and has suffered like she has. As a parent, that's hard to watch.

It is a joy to read the healing results she has experienced and continues to experience after her visit to the Hansa Center! I am thrilled for you and your family. It IS nothing short of a miracle, and that is exactly how I feel about my Gary too. I thank God for leading us there.

Isn't it amazing how quickly the results take happen?! I was treated with ABX for Lyme--twice--and I was so sick along the way. Plus I didn't experience results until months and months after treatment began, only to relapse a third time (recently). Now I, too, am being treated for Lyme, among other things (per results of BRS testing), and I'm seeing results and feeling good along the way.

While Gary and I were at the Hansa Center we met other people being treated, some suffering with Lyme while others had some other disease or illness (even life threatening), and they too shared with us of their improvement. Surely the Hansa Center IS a very special place.

Don, again, thank you for sharing so that others can be encouraged that hope for healing is possible.

Cindy, today is a new day for you with new experiences right around the corner. I look forward to reading more of your healing journey! You are in my prayers.

daisyrlb
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   Posted 5/5/2010 7:49 AM (GMT -6)   
Don, you can preach to the choir anytime, was blessed by your every word. AMEN!

It always amazes me how God can take a situation, such as your daughter's, and REDEEM it for good!! The "character development" in your daughter's life, "her dream is to possibly someday become vocationally involved to help others". REDEEM it? YES! Absolutely amazing!!

I've been thinking about my husband's post above--the way he shares, the smiley faces added, his joking lighthearted nature--.I got to tell you, folks, it's great to have my Gary back!!!

Blessed day to all!

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   Posted 5/5/2010 5:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi all,
 
Cindy, I am rooting for you during your treatment at the Hansa Center, I think you made a very wise decision.   I know I am lucky that I got well from Dr. J's Healing at Home protocol or maybe it was just designed for me and I didn't know it until I became well.   I didn't find Dr. J., it was another forum where I first heard other members talk about him and his first book.  Then another member went to the Hansa Center and her husband kept us informed.  I was really impressed from what I had read which brought me to buying his book and doing his protocol.  
 
Don, your posts brought tears to my eyes..  I am so happy that Heather is doing so well.  Yes, Dr. J. is truly gifted not to mention his knowledge about chronic illnesses.   I think most people know that Dr. J. had chronic lyme himself and thought he was going to die..  So he knows.. 
 
I will keep all of you in my heart, yes, Rhonda and Gary too as well as Patti..  
 
Hugs to all!
Denise
It's all about the Immune System mixed with a large dose of Positive Thinking and Detoxing Daily!
 
This song is about my years with chronic lyme since 1995 and being in remission for over 4 years:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds81S61UvPA
 


jojeanle
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   Posted 5/6/2010 2:44 PM (GMT -6)   
too bad Dr J doesnt have scholarships for people that cant afford his treatments..   Because his expertise is worth 500.00 a day?? and let us not forget, thats the special rate at the present time its actually more. And then you go home and your buying supplements  and tinctures weekly or monthly... cha ching, cha ching, cha ching... and its always about money, even llmds who charge these outrageous fees for office visits.. makes me want to throw up, and there will be a price to pay somewhere for benifiting off anothers misfortune..
 
Please forgive me, but recruiting sick people for a profit  is lower than low....  If hes a miracle worker than  fine, but I keep seeing the same theme in these threads..and its leading me to believe this is one great recruiting contest.
 
I speak from experience....  When I initially got sick they couldnt figure out what was wrong with me and I even had a month of doxy... still had weird things got really bad and I finally saw a doctor VERY similar to Dr. J.  Infact, he's the only one around on the eastern seaboard that does this type of testing and treatment.... Rife, foot baths, muscle testing, some kind of test where you lay on a table and they put electrodes on your body and it prints a readout where you are weak (organs, infections, etc)  alignments, cold laser, magnets, etc...  HE IS VERY SIMILLAR to DR J.  He also sold his own supplements, tinctures, and every test was designed to bring about your weaknesses and he would muscle test your body to see what would erradicate it...  So I know what Im talking about here... same thing.... 
 
Now I will say this.... that doctor did get me to a level where I could function..... infact he found I had a huge kidney weakness which he put in check, and yes, I agree no regular doctor would of been able to do that...  but even with my kidneys functioning well again, my body could not fight the lyme on its own.  To make a long story short....  I was out about 13,000.00 in a years time.  And what I discovered is that while he got my elimination systems working again, all it did was make me feel better because I could detox better, but it did not kill off the bacteria... which is what we all want... and when I ran out of money, and could no longer buy his stuff, my symptoms came back, and worse, because the bacteria was there all along, just breeding and waiting, breeding and waiting.. (and I took stuff to kill lyme supposidly)
 
 
Everyone, please do your research, listen to your body and your gut and quit looking for miracles.... there are none with this disease....  and if Dr. J  has gotten you all well I am happy for you....  but this is my opinion.... and this needs to be said...  take care everyone and you are all worth getting better, regardless of the route you take :)
 
 
 

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   Posted 5/6/2010 4:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi JoJeanie,
 
I am curious to where you got the idea that anyone is recruiting people?  I did my research and read Dr. J's book before I made the decision to follow his protocol and I have been totally well for over 4 years now. 
 
Everyone I know who went to the Hansa Center made that decision on their own and I guess they had the money to go there, I didn't.  I am grateful that the "healing at home" protocol worked for me.  And I still continue to detox, eat right, exercise, and take care of myself to keep my immune system strong.
 
I think everyone has their own individual story, Dr. J's treatment is not a cookie cutter treatment as everyone is different.  
 
I'm sorry that you spent so much money on this other doctor and didn't get better. 
 
Have you read Dr. J's new book?  It's an updated version from his original book and much better plus Dr. J. addresses biofilms, etc.  Are you signed up to receive his free e-mails that give so much advice?  
 
The bottom line is this:  Dr. J's protocol is NOT designed to kill lyme bacteria, it IS designed to make one's body stronger and healthier so the body can kill the lyme bacteria by itself.   If you get a broken toe, it heals by itself, this is the same view that Dr. J. has.  
 
I don't know what doctor you saw but I think you were taken based on what you wrote.    Was this doctor able to determine your ammonia levels? 
 
What protocol are you on currently? 
 
Denise
It's all about the Immune System mixed with a large dose of Positive Thinking and Detoxing Daily!
 
This song is about my years with chronic lyme since 1995 and being in remission for over 4 years:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds81S61UvPA
 


cindy lou hoo
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   Posted 5/6/2010 6:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Howdy you all
I've tried to write this letter 3 times, and something keeps making my letters disappear. ARRR getting fustrated! But I will try this one more time.
Hi Gary... Yep I've been worked up, over , in ,out, and all around. your right, the foot bath is just gross! and to think that stuff was inside me, lurking around. Yuck! I'm gonna have to get me one of those for sure. Yesterday my hubby came and we spent nearly two hours with the Doc. while we continued the battering ram. Dr. Jowdy has endured our doubts with the ultimate patients, and explained everything in great detail. Which is what I needed being the inqusitive person I am. He explains things in a way that I can understand. He's made me a believer. I am certain of one thing... I will not leave here the same person! I might do a cartwheel out the door! some of it i still really don't understand, but then I don't think I need to understand everything. From all the posts and prayers, it is confirmation enough that I am in the right place. It is difficult at times to believe that God wants us to be healed... knowing all my faults and sins, but God is showing himself to me this week that some things are true whether you believe them or not. By the way, your wife is a gem! like one of those crystals they use to put light through. She is a beaken of light! I can tell you both love each other very much!

HI Don
I have been talking with your family know nearly everday. They are a blast. Today "Uncle Bob" says, "Ohhhh your Cindy lou hoo arent you!!"
He told me about you and your daughter. and today I was finally able to read your post. You have an incredible story. She sounds much like me and all the symptoms I had. Almost to the T. Particularly the rash. No one has really gave that one a label. I'm going to ask the DR. about that in the morning. A surgeon wanted to take my gallbladder out even tho they didn't really know if anything was wrong with it. That is just disturbing! Another Dr. says,'it's only pain>" I wanted to smack him and say,"It's only pain."
Rebecca and I have planned to take walks next week together since she will be there alone and so will I. I am looking forward to it. You guys are lilke one big happy family! Thank you for sharing your story with me.!!

Jo Jeanie
I have a hard time with the money thing too, but these people are good people, dedicated to healing. there isn't anything there that suggests they are using people. Just the opposite in fact. They heal your whole body! I hear your pain... I really do. If you want to get beyond just being able to function, you will fight with all that you have to get there. so fight!!!! fight!!!!


Thank you all for all the prayers!

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   Posted 5/6/2010 7:22 PM (GMT -6)   
jojeanle,

I'm sorry you had such a bad experience with your previous ND, even though he did seem to do you quite a bit of good from what you posted. Obviously he failed somewhere along the line due to his lack of experience or perhaps he didn't use the appropriate remedies to get your body functioning optimally so that it could fight the disease on it's own, which is what Dr. Jernigan's protocol is all about.

What did this doctor use as a natural antibiotic to kill off bacteria and spirochetes? Did he use the Jernigan remedies for this or something else?

If I recall, from a past post you wrote, you ordered the Jernigan protocol and were trying it at home. Have you been doing this protocol at home and have you been getting any benefits from it? Did you buy the book, "Beating Lyme Disease" which has the protocol in it?

jojeanle, I make a point to not argue with people on any of lyme forums I belong to because I believe our purpose for being here is to support and encourage people and not be critical or make accusations against them. I appreciate it when people come here to warn us of a scam, or something of that nature when they have proof of it happening, but in your case, you basically are accusing some people here of "recruiting sick people for a profit..." Here's your exact quote from your post:

"Please forgive me, but recruiting sick people for a profit is lower than low.... If hes a miracle worker than fine, but I keep seeing the same theme in these threads..and its leading me to believe this is one great recruiting contest".

Do you really think that the two or three people who have written about this protocol on this forum, and have gotten better from it, are recruiting sick people for a profit? Do you really believe that we're having some kind of a "recruiting contest" to get people to go on this protocol? WOW, that's a first for me. My wife read this before I did and told me, "you're not going to believe what someone wrote on Cindy's thread". Boy, was she ever right.

I can't speak for others here, but I've been a member Lymenet, Healing Well and MDJunction for five years, and I have a record that speaks for itself. If you've read any of my posts over the past five years, you would know that I have been very, very sick and have been searching everywhere for a way to get better. Abx were not working for me and I needed to find a protocol that would work for me that didn't require taking abx . If you read my posts here, and on the other forums, you'd know how very sick I was and how desperately I was searching for a protocol that didn't involve abx because I believe they were doing me more harm than good.

My record speaks for itself. Never one time in the five years that I have been on any of the lyme forums have I promoted anything or any product. I started the Hansa Center thread in January with no clue how it would be written because I didn't know what the final outcome would be. Had the treatments I had from the Hansa Center not been successful that's exactly what I would have posted on the lyme forum threads. I've been very open, honest and upfront on the lyme forums about my experiences at the Hansa Center and the Jernigan protocol I've been on over the past four months.

I value my reputation on these Lyme forums and this is the first time I've been accused (or grouped together with those who you accuse) of "recruiting sick people for a profit". Do you mean to suggest that those who speak highly of the Jernigan protocol, or the Hansa Center, are being paid to say what they say here? Is that what you're saying, because if it is, that's quite an accusation you are making. I believe if you're going to make such a blatant accusation like this, you should back it up with proof, otherwise, you should not be making these kinds of accusations against people who are doing nothing more than sharing the good results they've gotten from the protocol.

My integrity on the lyme forums mean a lot to me, and for you to say the things you have, you are basically challenging my integrity. I'm not going to defend Denise or Heathersdad, which are the only two others here who I recall who have spoken highly of this protocol, I'm sure they will answer for themselves.

Cindy just started her thread a few days ago and we don't know how it's going to turn out yet since she just started the protocol. Now that her computer has a virus in it, and she can't use it, we apparently won't be getting any reports from her for a few days or when she returns back home. She may have a wonderful outcome and give us a good report, or she may have a poor outcome and give us a bad report, who knows what she'll be saying about this protocol until she reports back to us.

Dr. Jernigan admits that not everyone who he treats gets well. He makes no promises to anyone that he will get them well, he only promises them that he will do everything within his power and work as hard as he can to get you better, but he never promises anyone they will absolutely leave his clinic healed. Some leave his clinic with minimal improvement, some make no improvement, but the vast majority of people who he treats do get better. Thankfully, I am one of them, as is Denise and Heather based on what heathersdad has written about her.

Obviously you are feeling very frustrated because you're still suffering with this disease. I can understand your frustration and I sympathize with you for that. I don't feel angry at you for what you said, but I do feel you need to rethink what you've posted. It's important that you realize that there are people who really are getting better on this protocol. If they're like me, they want to come here to share with others the good results they've experienced on the Jernigan protocol. That seems like a good thing to do, share their success with others, but when people accuse them of recruiting sick people for a profit, that seems a little harsh in my opinion.

It would seem to me if anyone has a success story to tell on a lyme forum, we would rejoice and be glad for the person who was sick and is finally getting better after years of suffering. Not only that, if they're like I was, there's people on the lyme forums who'd want to know how someone got better, and that's something I'd want to share with others. I feel an obligation to tell others about my success with this protocol, because if I didn't share this with others, I would feel like I'm denying them the same opportunity to get better like I did (or still am).

I owe a big thanks to Deejavu (Denise) here on Healing Well, and two people on lymenet who told me about this protocol. I had never heard of this protocol in the whole five years that I've been on the Lyme forums until this past January. Denise got completely better on this protocol just by following the instructions in the book in just 8 months. That's nothing short of a miracle in my mind. I'm still getting better, but I haven't not gotten to the place where I can say I have beat this disease yet. I would say I'm mostly 75% better and on really good days I'm about 90% better. But I can also say that I have about five days or six out of the month where I feel lousy. I suspect it's due to toxins coming out of my body since there is still die off and I do a lot of detox.

I have no reason to believe that what I'm experiencing is a temporary thing because I really do believe the remedies I'm taking are doing both, killing the spirochetes, and building up my immune system to fight this disease on it's own. Only time will tell, but I'm pleased with the progress I'm making and believe in time I'm going to get even better.

jojeanle, again, I don't hold it against you for what you posted, but I do hope you will rethink what you've said and realize that just because you had a bad experience, and may have been taken advantage of, that's not how I feel about my treatment at the Hansa Center. I paid 7 thousand dollars because I came in before the special price began (just my luck). sad I'm still making payments on our credit card. But I don't regret it for a moment. Like I've said before, yes, it's expensive, but if the protocol makes you better--it's priceless!

I pray things get better for you. If I can be of any help to you while you're doing the Jernigan protocol at home, please feel free to email me or, if you'd like, I'll be glad to give you my phone number and we can talk more about this on the phone.

You are in my prayers!

Gary

Post Edited (GWB) : 5/6/2010 8:10:54 PM (GMT-6)


GWB
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   Posted 5/6/2010 7:56 PM (GMT -6)   
Cindy,

I was writing this long post above before I saw yours which now makes my post a bit "outdated". :-) I'm glad you responded to jojeanle as she's obviously in pain and needs to be encouraged. I think your kind comments to her will encourage her.

I still have to chuckle at your comments because you really do sound a lot like me. I am a VERY inquisitive person too, but Dr. Jowdy is so very patient and he answered all of my questions until I was totally satisfied. He's a real winner in my book and I'm glad I was able to get treatment from him along with Dr. David. Tell him hello for me (and Rhonda) and tell him Gary wants to know, who was his most inquisitive and skeptical patient, you or me? smilewinkgrin He made a believer out of me as well. Glad to know that you are feeling confident with him and feeling good about your decision to go to the HC for treatment.

Your post is such an inspiration to Rhonda and me and I was so happy to see you post something tonight. I was concerned that with your computer virus we wouldn't be hearing from you until you got back home. So, tell us, what all therapies have you had so far. Which is your favorite? Have you done the infrared sauna yet or are they saving that for next week? Did you have the Lux therapy and the ST-8 lymph drainage therapy yet? Amazing stuff, isn't it?

What about a massage from Melissa, have you had the pleasure of laying on the biomat table and having her massage your body with essential oils? She even does BRS testing herself to see which essential oils are best for you and she knows exactly the right areas to massage in the exact right way. I've never had a massage from anyone that equalled what she's capable of doing. Rhonda and I are spoiled now and there's no one here in our town who can give us a massage like Melissa. I know a lot of people tell her they wish they could bring her home with them. She's truly the best and knows her business!

Yeah, that gunk coming out of your body isn't too appetizing is it? I always tried to have it done after lunch so it didn't ruin my appetite before lunch. Disgusting the gunk that comes out of our bodies. We're hoping to purchase an ionic foot bath eventually but for now we plan to go to a local chiropractor's office to get them done. Still haven't found anywhere here in town where we can get the infrared sauna, so guess we won't be using that for awhile until we can afford to buy one.

Anyway, reading your post gives us great joy knowing that you are experiencing healing and enjoying your time there. It's such a peaceful place and the gals at the front desk make you feel like family. I always refer to them as the "gang", so if you don't mind, tell them that Gary (and Rhonda) said a BIG hello to the gang.

Keep us posted and know that we are continuing to lift you up in our daily prayers. God is so good and it's just the beginning of more good things to come for you!

Gary

jojeanle
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   Posted 5/6/2010 8:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Gary,
 
 
Your absolutely right, it was wrong of me to word my feelings the way I did..  I am sorry for that.  It is just my opinion, and your absolutely right in the fact that I have no PROOF whatsoever to back it up..  Its just a feeling I have and as you know, feelings arent fact.  I dont come here to argue or point fingers either..  and no, I havent researched your posts... 
 
I was more relating to the fact that Dr. J makes a lot of money off people... not that you were compensated in anyway for telling your story.  And there are alot of other protocols on here that have worked for people (and alot less expensive) and I dont see any where near the posts on  those as the ones regarding jernigans and only from a few people, or new people that Ive never seen on here, so it makes a person wonder...    And again, this is just my opinion..  I was in chat last night, and was bombarded with Jernigan advertisment by heathersdad... and I wasnt the only person who felt he came on too strong... 
 
And if this protocol is working for all of you, I am very pleased...  However, I have a right to share my experience and opinions and if it came our disrespectively toward you, again, I apologize...  I will watch my wording next time. 
 
Denise,
 
The doctor I saw who has the same credentials as Jernigan told me the same thing.... your body can fight this and win if you put the right things in and get the wrong things out...Right supplements, and plenty of detox....  and again, I already explained my story.... and I'm sorry for the recruiting comment, that was out of line...
 
 
I can barely hold my head up at the moment, and I cant think the rest of this post through quite clearly, so I am going to sign off and pick this up again when Im not so tired and having a hard time focusing.
 
Joanne
 
 
 

cindy lou hoo
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   Posted 5/6/2010 10:24 PM (GMT -6)   
You know... All... my husband and I were just discussing this post and an idea came to both of us... why doesn't the Hansa Center start a scholorship fund.???? HMMMMMMMM maybe there wouldn't be moneys for all people, but some. I just might have to look into this matter while I'm here. That sounds like a project for little cindy lou hoo

cindy lou hoo
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   Posted 5/8/2010 7:43 AM (GMT -6)   

howdy all

I aksed Dr. j yesterday about a scholorship fund, as was met with an interesting explanation as to why they don't do that.  He explained that those who have sacrificed much to be there are the one's who are more serious about their treatment and do well.  Others that he has treated out the kindness and compassion of his heart were the one's who didn't take their treatment serious and didn't do as well, then bite him in the butt because they weren't seeing the results they hoped for.  I see his point.  And that is not to say he will never treat a patient for free again.  I'm sure he will.  But I suspect that person will really have to want it.

enough of that

Yesterdays visit consisted of a ionic foot bath, sauna, massage, Lux, st8 and time with the Dr.  He has been working hard to get my body back into balance.  I don't understand all that he is doing, but am feeling the results.  It seems i have alot of lactic acid build up in my body and it's evident with treatment.  Different muscles are becoming soar, as he is treating and moving things around in my body.  It's a different kind of soar, but good he says.

Monday Dr J. is going to treat my husband and I as a couple.  I love this idea.  We've both had alot of stressors in our lives this past year and dealing with them emotionally is important to healing.  I love that they address this as important.

I had a rare visit with Dr. Jernigan yesterday whom by the way is just wonderful.  He exclaimes that what they do is only maybe 30% of a persons healing.  And he says that is being generous.  The rest is up to the individual and God.  Dr. Jernigan gave us a book he wrote called, "everyday Miracles by God's design."  I read some of it yesterday.  His concept is seeing HOw Jesus prayed.  He called things out with authority.  He said "Lazereth! come out."  He didn't say, "Lord would you please heal Lazereth, or Lord if you are willing, would you heal Lazereth."  He used his authority He has in God to heal.  Jesus says we have this too.  I am still chewing this up in my mind.  He tells a miraculous story of his daughters healing when all else in his medical training failed.  They took authority over her illness, and called her body into total health.  She got up and was healed.!!!!

I'm gonna have to read that story again and again.

So all... ponder on this healing today!

Cindy


cindy lou hoo
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   Posted 5/8/2010 7:46 AM (GMT -6)   
Ohhh. Don
No one and I repeat NO One should ever determine what GOD has put in your heart to do.  That my friend would be a sin against God, and a crying shame for the people he meant his glory to come.  You don't know who God is going to lead you to here!!! Including myself. tongue

Kodak
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Total Posts : 74
   Posted 5/14/2010 4:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Keep those positive posts coming. They give the rest of us hope. I am so happy people are getting well. And I want to know how they are getting well.
Its good to know that something works and if I need to, I will check into it myself. Its good to have that knowledge and that option.

Thank you all for sharing your good news.
Glad to hear it.

Peace

Edsmom
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Date Joined May 2010
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   Posted 5/21/2010 3:53 PM (GMT -6)   
We are just ending our first week away from the Hansa Center.  They are the real deal.   Our 13-year-old son has his life back.   Like everyone else, we were in total despair before we went there.
 
I am not surprised by anything I have read above.  I can see why on paper this does not sound right.  I must admit when I went on their web site before we visited I thought it didn't look as professional as I expected.  I thought there was a good possibility we were going to be $5,000 more in debt on the other side of this thing.  But, it appeared as if our son was going to die and the smartest most professional doctors we know didn't have a single better suggestion.  So, we went.
 
I pulled into the parking lot next to a Hansa Center flashing billboard - which, again, made me nervous.  We watched and listened as they explained every single thing they were doing.  We took notes and comprehended about a third of what we saw and heard.  They worked with him and many things they did gave him immediate and clear relief in real time.
 
In the end Dr. J told us that there were at least 4 major problems working together to create the perfect storm in our son.  Lyme was definately at the heart of it, but other issues played a role.  Despite what felt like a growing dependence on Dr. J over the two weeks he assured us that he wouldn't need to see us again and he didn't want to prescribe any additional medications.  If he was going to take advantage of us financially we were ripe for the picking.
 
We need time to process what's happened.  Our son's healing was so extreme and swift it's hard to process.  I absolutely love Dr. J and the work God is doing through him.  Since returning just want everyone I know with less than perfect health to see him, but I temper what I say because it's a story people just aren't used to hearing in so many ways, so it doesn't sound true.  Plus, Dr. J is the first to admit, God doesn't allow him to win every case - just a majority of them (my opinion).
 
I hope this is helpful.  To Don...please don't be hurt if people are skeptical.  Let it roll off your back because it's really just about being accountable to God, right?   You sound like an outstanding father and it's Heather's blessing to have you for a dad.  You are doing a good thing by telling your story in such an honest way.  I hope you keep doing it.
 
Jojeanle...I totally get it.  I can completely understand your thought process.  Being sick just grinds us down.  I pray that everyone would find healing.
 
PattiB...your words break my heart and they are so very true.  I wish you could find a way to go to the Hansa Center.  There IS hope.  Even if it isn't there, there is ALWAYS hope.  You sound so wise.
 
 
 

daisyrlb
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Date Joined Jan 2010
Total Posts : 277
   Posted 5/21/2010 9:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Edsmom, I read your post with tears of joy in my eyes. I rejoice with you and your family as I read your comment, "Our 13-year-old son has his life back." That says it all. What a thrill!!

God's best to you and your precious family.

DocGP
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Date Joined Feb 2010
Total Posts : 184
   Posted 7/20/2010 6:28 PM (GMT -6)   
All,

in doing the home protocol, do you do all of the 7 steps at the same time, or you do the several months of borrelogen and lymogen first?
Thanks

Willowrose
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Date Joined Oct 2009
Total Posts : 699
   Posted 7/20/2010 6:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Don - I hope you will not discontinue your posts on this forum. I can't speak for anyone else, but someone like me is unlikely to contact anyone directly yet I get a lot from reading what people have written here. I hope you will not let one person's post stop you from sharing with us all your successful and positive experience. It sounds as if she didn't intend the post as it was understood. So many of us here have difficulty formulating our thoughts because of the effects of Lyme. Because of that I try to interpret what people write with latitude. I've had to apologize for a post in the past, too, written thoughtlessly but with no malice. If you don't come back, please know that what you've written has helped me.

Rose
I have Lyme; it doesn't have me.

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