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Dowa
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   Posted 6/8/2010 6:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Everyone: I bought some Colloidal Silver by Sovereign at Whole Foods today. My body is very sensitive to things and was wondering if I should start off with a small amount and work up to one teaspoon. It has 50 mcg of silver to each teaspoon. I have never taken this before and any information/suggestions would be appreciated. Also, can I expect any kind of herx or die off from this as I also have candida. Sincere thanks in advance.  Dowa

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   Posted 6/8/2010 7:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Can I be nosy? What made you decide to try Colloidal Silver? What protocol are you on at the present time?

Gary

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   Posted 6/8/2010 7:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Start with no more than 1/4 teaspoon twice a day. This stuff can pack a wallop. If after two or three days you are not herxing, increase it, but go slowly. The herx is not as strong as with abx, but it's still a herx and can make you feel lousy.

Dowa
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   Posted 6/8/2010 8:13 PM (GMT -6)   

 CS: Thank you!!

GWB: Have no LLMD here, trying to boost my immune system as I have alot of staph  infections and candida.

 

 


GWB
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   Posted 6/8/2010 8:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Have you tried Yeast Ease for your candida?

Gary

Dowa
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   Posted 6/9/2010 12:40 PM (GMT -6)   
I believe I looked at Yeast Ease at Whole Foods. Is it a  vaginal suppository or do you take it orally? My candida is in the gut so I was trying the colloidal silver as I read it is also anti-fungal. Do you not trust it Gary? Thanks~

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   Posted 6/9/2010 1:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Our family has been using silver for many years for so many things and it can be amazing stuff. However there are many kinds of silver. Most of them are very good for topical treatments but become inactive in the stomach. The new nano-silvers are broken down so small that they stay intact and go directly into the blood stream. Just recently my son (with lyme for 17 yrs.) tried one of the new nano silvers and has had great luck controling his disease. He was put on a very high dose 4 times a day.He did not really have much of a herx and I doubt you will either since you don't have lyme.

Dowa
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   Posted 6/9/2010 1:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Who said I didnt have Lyme? How I wish that was true...

GWB
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   Posted 6/9/2010 1:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeast Ease is a homeopathic remedy that Dr. Jernigan invented. You can read about it here abc.eznettools.net/jernigannutraceuticals/yeast-ease.html

He also has a more powerful version of it that treats other symptoms as well called Yeast Ease Plus
abc.eznettools.net/jernigannutraceuticals/Yeast_Ease_Plus.html

Read both and see which matches up to your symptoms most.

My wife had constant yeast problems for many years and took diflucan, nystatin, etc. Nothing worked for her. When Dr. David suggested she take Yeast Ease her symptoms cleared up in just a few days and she's had no problems since. It's in a bottle that comes with a dropper, not a suppository.

It's $48 dollars for a 4oz bottle but it lasts awhile and it works very effectively for her. Several people on another lyme forum have used it with good success too.

Honestly, I don't know enough about Colloidal Silver to comment on it. Some people say it's great others say stay away from it. Curious what our "in house researcher" Deejavu would have to say about it.

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Dowa
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   Posted 6/9/2010 2:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you Gary. Do you have to be patient to purchase from them online? Gee  I wish it gave the ingredients for someone with many allergies.  Sincere Thanks for helping.  D

GWB
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   Posted 6/9/2010 2:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Dowa, no, you do not have to be a patient to order on the Jernigan site. I would email or call them if you want to ask questions about ingredients since you have concerns about allergic reactions. They should be willing to provide you with information on that as it's pretty important to make sure you don't have any reactions to it. I do know it's non toxic and my wife didn't have any difficulties with it at all. My wife is daisyrlb here, so you could ask her more about it if you'd like.

I posted more information on colloidal silver on my previous post but for some reason it messed up and I couldn't get the links to post properly. I found some good info on that. When I have more time and a bit more patience mad I'll come back and add those links on colloidal silver. One thing I can say though, on another lyme forum I belong too this is a controversial substance, but the one product that is most highly recommended by those who use it is the MesoSilver brand.

www.purestcolloids.com/mesosilver.htm

Will add more comments later.

Gary

Dowa
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   Posted 6/9/2010 3:39 PM (GMT -6)   
 Gary:Thank you for helping and posting the links. Yeast Ease sounds good but the reason I chose colloidal silver is that I am immune-compromised and I think that is the reason for the candida. So..I could treat the candida but feel like it would return if I did not  improve my immunity. I am the one who did the gamma gobulin injections for 6 months with very little improvement so I feel a little desperate. Hope my thinking and approach makes sense. :)

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   Posted 6/9/2010 3:52 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm not qualified to speak about colloidal silver and what capabilities it has, but I can speak with confidence about the Jernigan protocol and it's ability to build the immune system. That's what his whole protocol is about, building up your immune system so it can fight the disease on it's own. If you haven't already done so, I encourage you to purchase his book "Beating Lyme Disease". You can find it on his website www.HansaCenter.com.

Coming from near death (last December) to feeling great on most days, yeah, this is definitely worth checking out if you're interested in focusing on your immunity system. Deejavu, Cindy lou hoo are two other people on the forum who will attest to that.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking colloidal silver, it may be a great thing, but I only know what worked for me and that's the Jernigan protocol.

I pray things work out well for you with the colloidal silver! :-)

Gary

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   Posted 6/9/2010 4:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Mesosilver is the one I tried. I started Jernigan's products first and started feeling better quickly. On someone's advice, I added the CS. Symptoms that had gone away came back and I figured it was a herx. Frankly, I didn't feel like dealing with more herxing; the other products seemed to be doing the job in a more gentle fashion, so I quit.

The woman who recommended the CS healed from lyme using mesosilver and Cowden's products. She swears by the mesosilver, but admits that she felt sick for several months, assumed it was herxing. She switched later to sovereign silver, but only after she started feeling well.

My LLMD is ok with patients taking CS. He doesn't know too much about it to say if it helps or not, but recommends no more than four months at the risk of turning blue.

GWB
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   Posted 6/10/2010 8:29 AM (GMT -6)   
Dowa, I found the ingredients to Yeast Ease but prefer to not post it in the open. If you'd like the list click my email icon and I'll email it to you. If not, no problem.


I did find this information--very interesting.

Yeast-Ease ™ was the first product we developed. Like almost all of the Jernigan Nutraceutical line, its ingredients are unique on the market. We were the first to identify and research the anti-yeast actions of the plants in this formula.
We found these anti-yeast actions using Bio-Resonance Scanning™, and tested Yeast Ease against the best anti-yeast products on the market. According to our tests Yeast-Ease™ outperformed all of the other products. Our tests also showed it to be very hypoallergenic and low toxicity.

I will never forget the day Dr. David, arranged for an independent lab to run tests of Yeast Ease™ against five of the most common strains of Candida-type yeast. The lead microbiologist confidently informed him that no one product kills all five… well he smiled on the inside, knowing from the Bio-Resonance Scanning™ that Yeast Ease™ would be effective against all five strains. When the test results came in, sure enough it was very effective against the five types of Candida.

The lab determined that Yeast Ease™, which was already fairly dilute (1:4 ratio) would still kill 80% of the Candida even when diluted up to 1:3200. Meaning, you could put one gallon of Yeast Ease in 3200 gallons of water and the Yeast Ease™ would still kill 80% of the Candida!
Combine this with the realization that Toxicon Corporation found, it was non-toxic up to 150 times the maximum recommended dose… so non-toxic as a matter of fact, that the FDA does not require further testing because it is unlikely that anyone would be drinking gallons of Yeast Ease™.

The first person we used Yeast-Ease™ on was an M.D. who had taken antibiotics for years for acne and as a result was suffering from severe Candida overgrowth. He had a yeast white coating called thrush lining his mouth and it was also growing on the skin of his armpits, groin and chest. Keep in mind that he had taken every prescription drug already to try and resolve it, so he was skeptical, but willing to try it. He was incredulous when three days later; all signs of the yeast were gone!

Yeast Ease™ is a liquid botanical formula, therefore it can be added to your favorite herbal tea, taken directly in the mouth, diluted and added to a douche, applied topically, or added to bathwater.
Keep in mind that yeast are a normal body flora, they are supposed to be there, only they are not supposed to grow out of control, so a truly effective treatment program for yeast requires you to change the environment of your body so that yeast cannot continue to grow out of control. Yeast Ease™ and any other product (even the pharmaceuticals) will only assist the body in bringing down the overall population of yeast. There are many other possible causes for yeast infections, such as parasitic infections which alter the pH of the gut, enabling the yeast to thrive, or antibiotic usage, which kills the friendly bacteria, such as acidophilus that normally kill and keep yeast under control, or weakened immune system as seen in AIDS, in chemo-therapy damaged individuals, and in people who do not process sugar effectively.

We always recommend getting rid of the parasites that usually go hand and hand with yeast, so we recommend Paragen™ and then we recommend Molybdenum, which, is a trace mineral that can dramatically aid in the detoxifying the toxin, aldehyde, from the die-off of Candida-type yeast.

Gary

Jason99
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   Posted 12/18/2014 3:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Take SS under the tongue, every hour until 16 oz are used. 100% safe.
To balance out the Candida, take Acidophilus complex and crowd it out of your stomach. I've done both.
I've done a long study on Silvers. Home made gives you large particles of salts or oxide. Good for topical only. I found Sovereign Silver to be the best out there. Some health food stores stop carrying the others because SS is preferred.
Quack watch doesn't address this kind of pharmaceutical grade, nano silver. :)

Utahgal
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   Posted 12/18/2014 3:37 PM (GMT -6)   
I just ordered some Argentyn 23 nano silver.

I figured I'd give it a try.
43 yrs old, symptoms for 5 yrs.
(Anxiety/panic, weakness, fatigue, cognitive dysfunction, insomnia, hair loss)
Recent IGenex test: 8/14
IGM: 18+, 23-25 IND, 31+, 39 IND, 41+, 83-93 IND
IGG: 31 IND, 39 IND, 41++
Treatment: 10/1/14: 200 mgs minocycline, 2 tablets malarone
10/24: 200 doxy, 1000 flagyl

POORSHANUTT
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   Posted 2/6/2015 4:59 PM (GMT -6)   
I will preface that I am no doctor or expert by any stretch, but I am a good critical thinker and feel good about my protocol.
I am into my 3rd week of using (start date 1/20/15) colloidal silver to treat and hopefully beat Lyme. I have noticed my brain fog is lessening (I hope) and my toe numbing has decreased to basically nada... I have had some steady low-grade headaches, diarrhea and sleep has been kinda meh. I will probably get some yogurt with probiotics to help my digestive system as that may be cause of issue. Have definitely had some Herx like reactions but I take that as a positive thing.

I did a ton of my own research for the last 3 weeks to establish a final protocol that I am comfortable with as safe and hopefully still effective at getting to the Lyme spirochetes and offing them! I make my own CS at 10-11 PPM but shoot for 10 ppm. Here are my assumptions based on the best info available on the web and in research books/works that I have scoured.

1.Any ppm measurement is based on one liter of liquid or roughly 34oz containing x amount of CS
A 1ppm concentration is the same as 1 milligram (MG) per liter.
2.The body can safely ingest and easily eliminate 2 - 2.3mg CS per day based on research done by others in labs.(DR Altman) Most is eliminated through urine in 24hrs.(if your kidneys and liver don't function well then you probably need to take that into account) Also, it is recommended to drink lots of water (distilled being most recommended) whilst detoxing and take selenium and Vitamin E.
3.There are 10mg of silver in one 34oz bottle of 10ppm colloidal silver.
4.The published protocols that I could find state a CS treatment of 18-90mg per month (28 days)
5 .The treatment protocol I settled on for now is 8 ozs of 10ppm daily for 2 months at which time I will re-evaluate based on symptoms etc. I think since the spirochetes re-cycle every 28-30 days it is hugely important to continue treatment after the first month..possibly longer than 2-3 months.
My intake should be around 2.3mg per day with a total consumption of around 63 mg per month (28 days)
5. I am 52, 6' 200lbs and in pretty good shape considering I have stage 2 Lyme symptoms-numbing digits, heart murmur, facial twitches and no patience with bishes, brain fog, concentration issues, irritability, high anxiety, depression, weird ear sores, unexplained fatigue. I count myself more fortunate than many others to finally have an answer to my unexplained symptoms and am hopeful of beating this insidious disease. I enjoy riding dirt bikes, playing Racquetball, snowboarding and golf and hope to be able to continue until I am really old.

The generator I like is the Colloidal Master, I have tried others and they work also, but the quality/stability is way better with the CM and the device is much more sophisticated. Good luck to all, I will update as I see beneficial. turn

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POORSHANUTT
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   Posted 2/9/2015 11:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Hahaha well Lymedisease1 whoever you are.. Colloidal Silver has never been documented to cause Argyria according to the FDA. Why don't you search for documented cases of Argyria being caused by Colloidal Silver and get back to me before spreading the usual fear inducing dribble "your gonna turn blue!".. it's extremely rare and has never been documented with true CS and the protocol I am using is only about double what the EPA states is absolutely safe for human consumption. I am out to beat Lyme without torching my organs with ABs which BTW is well documented by many Lyme infected and Lord willing I will hopefully be done in about 3-4 months of treatment with CS at my level of consumption.

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   Posted 2/10/2015 12:33 AM (GMT -6)   
POORSHANUTT said...
Hahaha well Lymedisease1 whoever you are.. Colloidal Silver has never been documented to cause Argyria according to the FDA. Why don't you search for documented cases of Argyria being caused by Colloidal Silver and get back to me before spreading the usual fear inducing dribble "your gonna turn blue!".. it's extremely rare and has never been documented with true CS and the protocol I am using is only about double what the EPA states is absolutely safe for human consumption. I am out to beat Lyme without torching my organs with ABs which BTW is well documented by many Lyme infected and Lord willing I will hopefully be done in about 3-4 months of treatment with CS at my level of consumption.

you gotta do what you gotta do.

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   Posted 2/10/2015 4:30 AM (GMT -6)   
There was a case of a guy that did his own colloidal silver and it was taken out of proportions. I repeat, he did his own with some kind of generator or something, and obviously he had no clue what he was doing because he could not possibly measure the strength or particle size.

It is silly to do something and ingest it if you don't know what you are doing! I guess you can burn the house cooking a pot of soup, too, but that doesn't mean that cooking soup causes fire and it should not be attempted. Or put poison in your soup and die from it and then conclude that no one should eat soup because it causes death.

I think we should do our own research and judge for ourselves instead of pointing out to the guy that turn blue! Scientific evidence is positive to both colloidal and nano silver. In fact the military research nano silver as one of the cures for Ebola, which is a virus. So I don't see why nano silver could not be used to treat other viruses as well or even bacterial infection.

@limedisease: what you are stating is NOT called "science". A sample of one or a small sample in general, is biased. Again, you take out an isolated case and generalize. Be careful, because you will fail your science class if you do that ;) Oh, what do they teach kids these days! Education is not worth a dime anymore! LOL

@Poorshanutt: I doubt you will turn blue, unless you drink 5 gallons/days LOL Good luck with your treatment!

Post Edited (Simela1) : 2/10/2015 3:38:13 AM (GMT-7)


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   Posted 2/10/2015 5:24 AM (GMT -6)   
Mr. Mike:

what exactly happens when you herx from the CS?

I am taking Silver BIotics when I get a cold or flu and Clear Lungs. It seems like my lungs get congested whenever I catch something. So, yes, it has its merit. No Tylenol and no over the counter meds and I barely feel like I have a cold! It's more a precaution to protect the lungs. Yes, it works! But I wish I could tell you I herx! I never do! It's hard for me to say what works and what doesn't to treat Lyme and Barto because I never herx. I have no idea why I am so special LOL
Healed 95% after 1 yr of 3 abx cocktails for Lyme and Bartonella.
No treatment for the past 5 years
Sympoms returned. 1 mo of Propolis is bringing me up to 98% symptom free
I was sure I was going to die and I made my funeral arrangements.
Love God, trust Him, and He will heal you.
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POORSHANUTT
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   Posted 2/10/2015 2:36 PM (GMT -6)   
The famous "Blue Man" was spraying his highly concentrated silver solution directly on his skin which would definitely explain things. I am just starting my 4th week and so far my Lyme symptoms have been dissipating.. I have herxed on CS for sure .. experiencing odd sharp stabbing needle pains, abnormal mid day fatigue, heavier than normal eye twitching, low grade headaches and insomnia, an out of the blue one 8 hr chest cold impersonation then BAM gone,racing heart but other than that I am great! :)
My brain fog is lifting, my concentration is improving and my mood is better, my toes have not been going numb, my heart flutter has been silent and my left eye twitch has been mostly gone 2 days now which I am very grateful for as well. Praise Jesus! :)
I will update my progress or regress as appropriate.
#lymesucks

Post Edited (POORSHANUTT) : 2/10/2015 2:22:35 PM (GMT-7)


POORSHANUTT
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   Posted 3/7/2015 1:49 AM (GMT -6)   
Almost 7 weeks competed, and presently- consistently...my TMJ is gone, eye twitch gone, facial tickles gone, heart flutter gone, unexplained joint pains mostly gone, anxiety gone, depression gone, fatigue gone, numbness in feet and fingers not coming and going. Cognitive function improving, brian fog definitely dissipating... I felt better this week than I have since I can remember.. I am so grateful! Come out come out wherever you are you nefarious little lyme spirochetes ******s and die! Still doing 4 ozs of 10ppm CS twice daily Roughly 2.3MG per day.. I am going 4 months total and then I will begin to lessen dosage down to a moderate/maintainance level. Any input from those that have experience with CS and length of treatment etc would be greatly appreciated. Good luck and God's blessings to all.

Simela1
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   Posted 3/7/2015 2:49 PM (GMT -6)   
ppoorshanutt:

DId you take anything else besides CS?
Do you have any co-infections?
What brand of CS do you use?

Thanks!
Healed 95% after 1 yr of 3 abx cocktails for Lyme and Bartonella.
No treatment for the past 5 years
Sympoms returned. 1 mo of Propolis is bringing me up to 98% symptom free
I was sure I was going to die and I made my funeral arrangements.
Love God, trust Him, and He will heal you.
I felt I was slipping down fast, and He caught me by my hand.
"I can't do it... I must do it... I will do it
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