Should one De-Tox during the time of taking antibiotics? Or AFTER?

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Donotfear
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   Posted 6/18/2010 12:35 PM (GMT -6)   
I've read the many benfits of detoxing.  Is this supposed to be done during the round of antibiotic, or after?  I know it's supposed to help rid the body of toxins, which I feel building up in me.  I just did not know whether to start now or after.  Thanks.

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   Posted 6/18/2010 2:43 PM (GMT -6)   
You should detox while on antibiotics. If you wait, the toxins will build up and you will feel even worse.
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daisyrlb
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   Posted 6/19/2010 9:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Donotfear–what a great name. I'm wondering, what are you considering doing in the way of detoxing?

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   Posted 6/19/2010 9:37 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm curious about your detox plan too. But let me say this, detoxing is ALWAYS a good thing to do. Before, during or after treatment your body will have toxins in it. So the more you do to get them out, the better off you will be.

Gary

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   Posted 6/19/2010 9:40 PM (GMT -6)   
I've already started the Epsom salt/Hydrogen Peroxide soaks with ginger. I drink tons of water & green tea as well. I have been taking Oxy powder at night for colon cleansing....which is not harsh and an oxygen based cleanser. In addition, I plan to start the Paratrex Defense against organisms, but it usually cramps my stomach. I just want to get these toxins out of my body. I'm going to look up a Sauna room too. I'm doing all I can do for now, with the resources I've got. On Monday morning I'm starting my venture to get my medical/tests results for MYSELF. Plus, get in touch with the LLMD in La. I hope to God I can get in....
 
Addendum: I must say that I have been consuming a large amount of berries _ strawberries, blueberries, Acaia berry juice (pure).  Vegetables as well.    Also, Oolong Tea.   Herbalife shakes are a staple in my diet also.....very nutricious.

Post Edited (Donotfear) : 6/19/2010 9:45:50 PM (GMT-6)


GWB
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   Posted 6/19/2010 10:01 PM (GMT -6)   
donotfear,

You are doing ALL the right things! I would not know what else to add to what you're already doing--well, except for coffee enemas. I haven't done this myself yet (big chicken) smilewinkgrin but Deejavu often talks about doing coffee enemas. I think a lot of people do this with good success. I know I need to start doing this, but like I said, I'm a big chicken and just haven't had the guts to do it yet. I'm very impressed with your detox plan. Good job!

Oh yeah, it you can get into a infrared sauna, that will be awesome. We've been looking into it but too expensive. I've been looking for a place in town that rents them but no luck so far. Only thing we've be able to find is places that have ionic foot baths (very good thing to do too) and massages. Massages are good for lymph drainage.

By the way, if you get in to see Dr. F in LA, he's a great LLMD with lots of experience. At one time he wasn't taking new patients as his patient load was too heavy. Is he taking new patients now? Hope you can get in to see him.

Gary

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   Posted 6/20/2010 7:07 AM (GMT -6)   
Dry skin brushing is excellent for detox too. The skin organ releases about two pounds of toxins a day...more than the liver and kidneys combined. I have incorporated it into my daily routine morning and night.

Deejavu posted a really great link on this

proliberty.com/observer//20060215.htm

Donotfear
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   Posted 6/20/2010 8:13 AM (GMT -6)   
GWB said...
donotfear,

You are doing ALL the right things! I would not know what else to add to what you're already doing--well, except for coffee enemas. I haven't done this myself yet (big chicken) smilewinkgrin but Deejavu often talks about doing coffee enemas. I think a lot of people do this with good success. I know I need to start doing this, but like I said, I'm a big chicken and just haven't had the guts to do it yet. I'm very impressed with your detox plan. Good job!

Oh yeah, it you can get into a infrared sauna, that will be awesome. We've been looking into it but too expensive. I've been looking for a place in town that rents them but no luck so far. Only thing we've be able to find is places that have ionic foot baths (very good thing to do too) and massages. Massages are good for lymph drainage.

By the way, if you get in to see Dr. F in LA, he's a great LLMD with lots of experience. At one time he wasn't taking new patients as his patient load was too heavy. Is he taking new patients now? Hope you can get in to see him.

Gary
Gary,
......I haven't contacted Dr. F yet.  I hope to God he will take me; and soon!  Oh I hope he will take new patients.   Maybe he can recommend another LLMD if he cannot take me!
 
  I don't have the nerve to do a coffee enema. No way......I'll stick with the Oxy Powder.  Thanks for your encouragement...I'm going to try to call Dr. F again on MOnday.  Wish me luck!
 


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Post Edited (Donotfear) : 6/20/2010 8:18:28 AM (GMT-6)


Donotfear
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   Posted 6/20/2010 8:15 AM (GMT -6)   
daisyrlb said...
Dry skin brushing is excellent for detox too. The skin organ releases about two pounds of toxins a day...more than the liver and kidneys combined. I have incorporated it into my daily routine morning and night.

Deejavu posted a really great link on this

proliberty.com/observer//20060215.htm
Yes, I have been skinbrushing before the soak.   I noticed the red nodule on my arm is slightly better today.  I still say it's related to the LYme.  I don't know how, but I think it is.  It appeared about the same time the symptoms did, or shortly thereafter.   Thanks.


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Post Edited (Donotfear) : 6/20/2010 8:18:55 AM (GMT-6)


GWB
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   Posted 6/20/2010 8:31 AM (GMT -6)   
donotfear,

I'm curious, since you are doing a lot of natural things already, and seem to be open to natural remedies and stuff like that, have you considered seeing a naturopathic doctor, someone like Dr. Jernigan? Is there a reason you want to go the antibiotic route rather than the natural alternative route? Please don't misinterpret my motives here, as I'm not trying to get you to change your mind, it's just that I noticed you are already doing natural things and seem to be open to it, so it made me wonder why you aren't seeking a LLND rather than a LLMD?

Gary

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   Posted 6/20/2010 8:44 AM (GMT -6)   
GWB said...
donotfear,

I'm curious, since you are doing a lot of natural things already, and seem to be open to natural remedies and stuff like that, have you considered seeing a naturopathic doctor, someone like Dr. Jernigan? Is there a reason you want to go the antibiotic route rather than the natural alternative route? Please don't misinterpret my motives here, as I'm not trying to get you to change your mind, it's just that I noticed you are already doing natural things and seem to be open to it, so it made me wonder why you aren't seeking a LLND rather than a LLMD?

Gary
Sure Gary....it's cool.  I'm open to all of it.  I don't want to rule out the usefulness of conventional medicine. But I don't deny the benefit of natural herbs either.  I see no problem doing both, as long as one doesn't cancel out the other.  I spoke to a naturopathic doc on the phone 2 days ago.  He doesn't have much experience with LD, some,  but he was willing to give it a try.  I've been able to find out a lot of stuff on my own.  I don't want to put my trust in doctors, meds, or man.  It's outta my hands anyway.  But I'm willing to do what it takes to learn, experiement, and try to heal naturally, if possible.
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GWB
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   Posted 6/20/2010 9:28 AM (GMT -6)   
Donotfear,

Thanks for your response. A word of caution, if a ND says they're not experienced with Lyme disease, I would be leery to experiment with someone who doesn't understand the complexities of this disease. If you're going to get natural treatment there are three main herbal remedies designed for Lyme disease. It would be better to follow one of these proven remedies from a ND or herbalists that know this disease and how to treat it. There are very few ND's that are experienced with Lyme disease, so if you do go that route, I'd encourage you to go with someone who has a proven record for treating it.

Regardless which route you take, one of the best books out there for treating Lyme disease is "Beating Lyme Disease" by Dr. Jernigan. He explains this disease better than most LLMD's do and understands inside and out. He had the disease himself, so he's walked in our shoes. By the way, he's also invented over 30 natural medicines, many which are used my LLMD's and LLND's all over the world. Regardless, whether you go conventional, or natural, this is one of the best books on Lyme disease for everyone who has this disease to read. It's available on his website if you're interested.

I pray you find that path that's right for you and start on your road to health very soon! :-)

Gary

Post Edited (GWB) : 6/20/2010 10:03:55 AM (GMT-6)


Donotfear
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   Posted 6/20/2010 9:57 AM (GMT -6)   
I just ordered the book "Beating Lyme Disease" by Dr. Jernigan. It 's another good start for me. Thanks for the referral.
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Thank you for that information, Audra, but we don't allow any selling on this site - it's meant for support only.
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