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trytocancel
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   Posted 7/11/2010 6:53 PM (GMT -6)   
Can't believe I'm here.

Post Edited (lita31) : 6/25/2014 4:16:09 PM (GMT-6)


Deejavu
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   Posted 7/11/2010 7:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Lisa,
 
I'm so sorry you are feeling scared right now, I think if I were in your shoes and being alone I would be feeling scared too.   Easy for me to suggest to think positive thoughts.  Don't worry about sleeping, if you sleep you do, if not, can you watch TV or read a book? 
 
Think about tomorrow and how you will start your healing process.  You are going to be very busy tomorrow and meet all the wonderful doctors and staff there at Hansa.  If you need someone to talk to you can e-mail me privately tonight.     I really am excited for you as I think you made a very wise choice!   Dr. J. is the best!
 
Hugs,
Denise
It's all about the Immune System mixed with a large dose of Positive Thinking and Detoxing Daily!
 
This song is about my years with chronic lyme since 1995 and being symptom free for over 4 years:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds81S61UvPA


betterhealth
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   Posted 7/11/2010 7:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Lisa,

Wishing you all the best with your treatment and stay at the Hansa center. So many have reported success and healing at Hansa. We are all pulling for you and look forward to hearing about your experiences. Relax and feel confident in your decision to seek treatment. Good Luck!
Peace and Healing
Lyme Disease - Doxycyline, IV-Rocephin, Amoxicillin, Azithromycin, Ceftin.
 
 


daisyrlb
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   Posted 7/11/2010 10:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Lisa,

Thank you for opening up and sharing your thoughts and feelings with all of us.

You sound a lot like my husband did the night before his appointment at the Hansa Center. Quite normal actually, especially for a person who has been sick for so long and missed out on so much like you have. Anyway...as it turned out, it was the best decision my husband made since having Lyme Disease.

We believe you will not regret your decision to be there. In fact, we are quite excited for you. The doctors and staff at the Hansa Center are all wonderful, caring people. You are in good hands.

We will keep you in our prayers daily. May God give you His peace tonight and a jump start on healing and getting your life back–on every level in the days ahead!

I'm here for you if you'd like to talk, just send me an email (I'm glad to give you my phone number).

Lots of blessings coming your way,
Rhonda

daisyrlb
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   Posted 7/13/2010 10:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Good Evening Lisa,

Appreciate your openness so we know how to pray specifically for you.

It's only day two of your treatments. There were a few bumps along the way for my husband too. Actually, he didn't start feeling much better and experience improvement until the end of day three; then it snowballed in a very good way. So, yeah, at first he was a little bummed. I remember the doctors and staff were a little bummed too; because, they like to see improvement by day two and often do.

Second guessing is always a rough road to go down, although we all do it from time to time. May you experience God's peace, and by His grace, be able to rest and trust in His perfect timing for you being at the Hansa Center as you continue on your healing journey.

Although Dr. DJ has only been at the Hansa Center a year, he has been practicing since 1999. My husband had both Dr. DJ and Dr. J, and it worked out very well. He feels that he got the best of both worlds.

Praying you experience more improvement tomorrow. We are praying for you daily!

Rhonda

GWB
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   Posted 7/15/2010 12:17 AM (GMT -6)   
Lisa,

Sorry I haven't been on the forum much to post stuff. Been real busy with a huge project that we've been working on that must be finished by this Friday. Tonight I saw your thread and wanted to respond to a few things you said. First of all, how are you doing so far with the treatments and therapies you've had? Very curious to get an update from you.

First of all, congratulations for making the decision to go to the Hansa Center (HC) for treatment. I'm sure it was a difficult decision for you to make, it definitely was a difficult decision for me to make. With the encouragement of my wife, and Deejavu (forum member), and doing a lot of research on the HC, I decided that this may just be my last opportunity to beat this disease. After suffering with this disease for 15 years, and five years of abx treatment that was only making me sicker, I decided it was time to do something drastically and dramatically different than I had been doing. It was a huge gamble for me (an expensive one too) but it paid off and I have not one ounce of regret for making my decision to go the HC for two weeks and getting the good results I got while I was there.

I wanted to address your concerns about Dr. Jowdy. I had a similar experience as you did when I got to the HC. I too expected that Dr. Jernigan would be my primary doctor. I found out later that was not the case but that he would be treating me later on. I actually was very upset about this to the point that I thought of leaving and coming back home. I told this to Dr. Jowdy and he had Dr. Jernigan call me into his office and explain why he cannot treat every person that walks in the door. He assured me that he trained Dr. Jowdy and that he is well qualified to treat me as good as he would treat me. He also told me that in a few days he would be treating me too, but he wanted me to start with Dr. Jowdy for the first few days.

After our discussion I felt better about this and decided to be positive about it. If you allow the negative thoughts about not getting treated from Dr. Jernigan to mess with your mind, you will actually be hindering your healing progress. You need to get rid of that barrier in your head and think positive thoughts so that healing can flow through your body without disruption. Each day I went to the HC I would pray each time I got treated and I asked God to use the hands of Dr. Jowdy, Dr. Jernigan, and all of the other people who treated me to bring healing to my body. I prayed that each time I was being treated that God will use the hands of each person treating me and that the person's hands would be "God's hands" and that His healing would work through each of the people who treated me with their hands. I prayed too that God would use each piece of equipment such as the ST-8 Drainage Machine, ionic foot baths, Lux Therapy, biomat table, Infrared sauna, etc, and that he would use these instruments to touch my body and bring healing to me.

I prayed (and envisioned) that when Melissa (massage therapist) would massage my body that her hands would be "God's hands" massaging my body and that the lymph drainage massages she gave me would move the toxins out of my body. I prayed that her hands would be an extension of God's hands and that her massages would bring healing to my body. Every treatment, every piece of equipment used on me, including the remedies that were given to me, I prayed that God was in every part of it. I also prayed that God would give Dr. Jowdy and Dr. Jernigan supernatural wisdom beyond their human ability and that He would speak to their hearts about how to treat me effectively. Everyday I walked into the HC I prayed that God's presence would be with me and that I would experience His peace and healing. After about the third day there, everyday after that, I would get better and better.

Had I dwelled on the thought of not having Dr. Jernigan treat me exclusively, those negative thoughts would have blocked my healing. The doctors are not treating your "disease" they are treating your whole person, your body, your mind and your spirit because they are all interconnected together as one. You cannot separate one from the other. If the doctors gave you all the right remedies, and all of the right treatments, and therapies, but your mind dwells on the fact that you are aggravated or upset about not getting Dr. Jernigan, you will have wasted a lot of money and time because you need to have a positive outlook while you are there otherwise you will hinder the flow of healing to your body, mind and spirit.

I encourage you to receive all of your treatments as being good, pure and healing to your whole being. If you let your mind dwell on not getting the doctor you wanted, or the fact that Dr. Jowdy has only been working at the HC for less than a year, then you are going to hinder a lot of healing progress that you could get if you don't have a positive mind set. By the way, Dr. Jowdy has been in the healing business as a DC since 1999, so he's got quite a bit of experience treating patients. I'm sure by now you have noticed that he's a very caring doctor who listens attentively to his patients. He spends quality time with them and makes sure that all of their questions are answered to their satisfaction.

You may not know this, but he often consults with Dr. Jernigan when he treats his patients and discusses his treatment plans with him. Dr. Jernigan oversees the treatment of every patient, even if he isn't the one who is treating you. He knows what his doctors are doing to each patient because they go into his office after they treat you and have consultations about the treatment. Dr. Jernigan gives advice and input to his doctors regarding each patient. So in a sense, you are being treated by Dr. Jernigan, because he reviews each case, and if Dr. Jernigan has suggestions to give his doctors he will do that. I know for a fact that he did that with me. Dr Jernigan will even talk to his doctors about patients he's treating to get their feedback as well. They work together as a team making sure they they're covering all the angles and not missing anything. Even if Dr. Jernigan is not there in the office, they communicate by phone, and if he's in his office next week he will review your file and and make sure that Dr. Jowdy had covered all the bases. But, I assure you, Dr. Jowdy is very competent and you can be sure that he's treating you the same as if Dr. Jernigan was treating you because he's been trained and worked daily under his leadership for almost one year. I have so much confidence in Dr. Jowdy, that if he were to move to OK and open an office here, I would be his first patient. He's been trained in the best schools and has had extensive training under Dr. Jernigan and he's very competent in what he's doing.

I would suggest that if there are any issues that are bothering you about the fact that you didn't get treated by Dr. Jernigan, as you were hoping you would, please don't hold that in. Share it with Dr. Jowdy and let him know of your disappointment about this. When Dr. Jernigan returns, I am confident he will call you into his office and talk with you, and he might even give you some treatments like he did me. I actually had treatments from both doctors and felt like I was getting the best of both worlds. Dr. Jowdy is a good listener and has a very caring attitude and a gentle spirit. You are fortunate to be getting treatment from him, and I speak from authority because I've had both doctors treat me, you are being treated by one of the best Lyme and chronic disease doctors in the country. I believe that with all of my heart. I do hope for your sake you will talk with Dr. Jowdy about your concerns that you shared here. I assure you he will not be hurt or offended by this. When I was there the first time, I told Dr. Jowdy that I had nothing against him, but was disappointed that I didn't get Dr. Jernigan as my primary doctor. He told Dr. Jernigan and we talked about it and everything worked out great. I've been back one time since my initial two week treatment for a tune-up and plan to return for another "tune-up" (my choice) in August. I am hoping to be treated by both doctors, but if Dr. Jernigan cannot see me, I will be very content to be treated by Dr. Jowdy.

Just so you know, recently one teenager went to the HC and was treated by both Dr. Jowdy and Dr. Jernigan. He told his mom that he actually preferred Dr. Jowdy over Dr. Jernigan (probably because Dr. Jowdy was younger and both loved to talk about sports). He made remarkable improvements in the two weeks he was at the HC. Cindy lou hoo, who is a member here on the forum, had treatment from Dr. Jowdy and said, "he was great". She left the HC doing much better and continues to make great progress taking the remedies at home.

Dr. Jernigan is a very busy man. He is in the process of writing several books, and he travels the country training other doctors how to treat Lyme disease the way he does. More and more doctors are hearing about the amazing results of the HC success. They want to learn how to treat Lyme patients using this approach, which is decades ahead of the medical field when it comes to treating Lyme disease. Right now, there are only a handful (if that many) doctors and clinics where you can go to get the kind of treatment you are getting a the HC. Dr. Jernigan would love to treat every patient if he could, but he cannot do that. He's busy writing books teaching others how to do this, and he travels all over the world training other doctors so that patients won't have to travel so far, and spend so much money to go to KS to get this treatment. Someday, the kind of treatment you're getting at the HC will be available in many major cities across America, but for that to happen, Dr. Jernigan has to spend a lot of time writing books and training doctors.

You might wonder why I know about this. It's because I was once upset like you are about not getting the "best" Lyme doctor for my treatment when I went to the HC. Dr. Jernigan took the time to explain this to me ( a lot of time in fact) why it's this way. I was just as disappointed as you are, but the good news is, I left the HC feeling better, and I continue to get better and better each month using the remedies at home. I know everyone wants to be treated by Dr. Jernigan, and who can blame them? I assure you, Dr. Jowdy knows what he's doing, and if you put your confidence in him, and your faith in God that you will get better, I sincerely believe with all of my heart that you will get better, just like many of us on this forum have.

If you have any questions feel free to email me (click my email icon) and I'll be glad to answer any questions you have. If you want to talk on the phone, I'll be glad to give you our phone number and we can talk on the phone if you'd like.

Lisa, you are going to get better, but you need to get the negative stuff out of your mind so that the healing power that comes from the treatments (and God) can flow through your mind, body and spirit, freely without any hindrances or disruptions.

Rhonda and I are praying for you, and I know others here are praying for you too. Our office staff at our ministry prays for all of the patients who go to the HC, and even those who don't. God brought you to the HC for a reason, and yes, even the timing that you are there is His time for you to be there. Do not doubt it--Romans 8:28. God wants you well, and He will use the wonderful people at the HC to touch your body and make you whole again. Keep a positive attitude and let those positive thoughts flow through your mind, your spirit and your body. You WILL get better--believe it and receive it.

Gary

GWB
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   Posted 7/16/2010 10:10 AM (GMT -6)   
Lisa,

Thank you for your kind words. Sounds like you and me are very much alike. "Type A researching control freak"--made me laugh. Same here. I was probably Dr. Jowdy's and Dr. Jernigan's most inquisitive (and skeptical) patient. I constantly questioned what they were doing, why they were doing it and on and on. Dr. Jowdy and Dr. Jernigan were very patient with me, but I think Dr. Jernigan would have liked to slap me on the back side of the head on occasion (just kidding). He took it well when I questioned him, but I think he was glad when I shut up so he could treat me. He's a great doctor, and probably a type A person like you and me too. : ) Too many type A people together in one place--dangerous! ; )

This morning our staff came together to pray for you. Rhonda and I are praying for you daily. Please keep us posted on your progress. Will you please tell Dr. Jowdy, Jernigan and the staff hello for Rhonda and me?

God bless!
Gary

Willowrose
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   Posted 7/16/2010 5:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Lisa. Just wanted you to know more people than write regularly are rooting for you, praying for you, and reading every word with appreciation that you are sharing your experience.

Rose
I have Lyme; it doesn't have me.


DocGP
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   Posted 7/22/2010 8:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Lita31,

If I make it there, I am sure I will beat Gary's record for the greatest skeptic. But, I am as open minded as any western doctor could be. I am reading the "Beating Lyme" book now. I am trying to suspend my disbelief. It's very hard at times. But, you sound quite ill, and you seem to have had some good days. So, I am very curious. How are you now? Are you having to swallow various remedies, or is it all external treatment with his various devices? Has your pain gotten better? He talks in his book how "herxes" should never happen in his treatments...that nobody should be made to feel worse by the person treating him or her, but you sound worse. I know when people feel as bad as we do, it's hard to imagine a worse day than the usual days...and, when you have one of those worse days, you just want to cry...and sometimes do. I have been there. What are they saying to you? Why should you be feeling worse?

I really do wish you well. I know conventional medicine does not yet hold the answers for people like us. Please keep the posts coming, if you are able.

Best of luck to you.

Willowrose
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   Posted 7/22/2010 9:30 PM (GMT -6)   
lita31 - my prayers are with you.

Rose
I have Lyme; it doesn't have me.


GWB
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   Posted 7/23/2010 2:17 AM (GMT -6)   
DocGP said...
Lita31,

If I make it there, I am sure I will beat Gary's record for the greatest skeptic. But, I am as open minded as any western doctor could be. I am reading the "Beating Lyme" book now. I am trying to suspend my disbelief. It's very hard at times. But, you sound quite ill, and you seem to have had some good days. So, I am very curious. How are you now? Are you having to swallow various remedies, or is it all external treatment with his various devices? Has your pain gotten better? He talks in his book how "herxes" should never happen in his treatments...that nobody should be made to feel worse by the person treating him or her, but you sound worse. I know when people feel as bad as we do, it's hard to imagine a worse day than the usual days...and, when you have one of those worse days, you just want to cry...and sometimes do. I have been there. What are they saying to you? Why should you be feeling worse?

I really do wish you well. I know conventional medicine does not yet hold the answers for people like us. Please keep the posts coming, if you are able.

Best of luck to you.


DocGP, you ask why Lisa is having some problems like increased pain while she is being treated at the Hansa Center. First of all, Dr. Jernigan never says herxes should never happen. That's not something he's written or told anyone that I'm aware of. It's important to understand that not every pain and symptom is from herx reactions. Example: An old injury from a sporting accident that never healed that is aggravated by the doctor's efforts to get the injury to heal is not a herx. Herx's are only bacterial die off and not just every time someone feels bad. That is one thing that is very common once a person is diagnosed with Lyme...every symptom they have is blamed on the Lyme and coinfections from that point on.

More to say about this, but as I said on another post, it's very late and I'm beat. Will come back soon to comment more about this when I have more time.

By the way, the one true thing you did say in your post that I agree with is, "I know conventional medicine does not yet hold the answers for people like us". You might try harder to suspend your disbelief in Dr. Jernigan's protocol considering that conventional medicine doesn't hold the answers for people like us. At least you got that right. That's why Dr. Jernigan's protocol is helping so many people get well. He knows all too well that, like you said, conventional medicine doesn't have the answers for people like us. Dr. Jernigan seems to have an awful lot of answers that conventional medicine doesn't have. The sooner you come to this realization, the sooner you could be on the path to healing like so many others have. Yes. I was a skeptic like you are, but had I remained one, I'd probably be dead by now. Skepticism has an expiration date.

Gary

Post Edited (GWB) : 7/23/2010 12:25:43 PM (GMT-6)


diaba
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   Posted 7/23/2010 3:30 PM (GMT -6)   
lita31, thank you so much for sharing your journey with us. I'm sorry about the pain you're in, and I hope you'll see more positive results from your healing soon.

Take care, diana

GWB
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   Posted 7/23/2010 3:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Lisa, you have a great attitude! That alone will go a long way in contributing to your healing. You inspire me. Rhonda (daisyrlb) and I are praying for you! Keep us posted. Keep looking up to Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith! : )

Gary

DocGP
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   Posted 7/23/2010 4:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Gary,

about the herx, direct from Dr. J's book:

page 4: A herx is a sign of a POOR treatment plan and is unnecessary. A herx greatly increases the toxic load on the body; at its worst, it can kill an illness-weakened patient outright. A herx can temporarily or permanently disable the body, mind and spirit.

page 113, sentiment repeated

page 121, in bold letters, underlined: In truth, as severe Herxheimer reaction is a sign of a poor elimination drainage, poor organ support, and poor treatment by your doctor!

I am an admitted skeptic, but I think it is important to be the voice of the flip side here because not everything alternative or "natural" is safe. And, with Lita31 feeling so badly, I am concerned that perhaps something she has taken is contaminated, or something there is affecting her badly. I read the post of the woman's husband who ended up hospitalized from the Hansa Center.

I understand that within alternative medicine there are explanations for worsening of symptoms that go beyond the herx explanation. And, perhaps they are true and would pass scientific muster if tested. Or, perhaps not.

I am reading the book with as open of a mind as possible. I am using his words when interpreting Lita31's experiences. I just hope that things work out for the best.

Willowrose
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   Posted 7/30/2010 12:09 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey Lita, thanks for sharing your story. I know that takes courage and must be taxing to write about your experience when you are already working so hard to get better. I am so happy that the xrays revealed an answer for you. Best of luck in your treatment.

Rose
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diaba
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   Posted 7/30/2010 4:33 PM (GMT -6)   
lita31, thank you for the update. I hope you continue to do well with treatments.

Take care, diana

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   Posted 7/30/2010 5:56 PM (GMT -6)   
Dearest Lisa,
 
I can not express what I am feeling after reading your words..  What can I say except that I am so very happy for you!!  You said it best "all  the pieces will be addressed and come together into one beautiful masterpiece" as that's how Dr. J(s) view this disease...  it's just not bacteria they look at, it's the entire picture..  As I have learned (and I never went to the Hansa Center) if one part of the body is out of sync it causes obstacles for the rest of the body, mind, and spirit... 
 
And yes, you ARE getting your life back!  I am filled with joy for you Lisa...  Concentrate on you now, it's your time now and a very special time indeed... 
 
Prayers and love,
Denise
It's all about Detoxing Daily, strengthening the Immune System mixed with a dose of Positive Thinking!
 
This song is about my years with chronic lyme since 1995 and being symptom free for over 4 years:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds81S61UvPA
 
Currently taking Estrovera, ProgX (progesterone), Adrenotone Plus, CoQ10, Vitamin B Total, C, Green Vibrance, CALM (Magnesium/Calcium)

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   Posted 7/31/2010 12:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh Lisa,
 
Your words mean so much to me..   Please tell the big Dr. J. that I said hello okay?  
 
And yes, I do remember telling you about Dr. J. years ago...  Again, I'm so happy that you finally went..  I almost went to the Hansa Center myself a couple of months ago as I was having strange symptoms but found out it was the beginning of menopause and saw a fantastic doctor who tested me (blood work and even had her acupunturist muscle test me, that was a real experience!).   So I am doing so much better now (yes, I admit I got scared for a while thinking the lyme came back)..   Thank God for this doctor who put me on natural supplements for menopause as she said I have the worse symptoms but now I am hopeful again!  No more hot flashes, no more insomnia, etc.
 
And keep up the good work okay?  Again, I'm so thrilled for you, you have suffered long enough..
 
P.S.:  My doctor would love to talk to Dr. J. as she knows much about lyme but would like to know more from him.   Maybe you can e-mail me??  
 
Prayers and love,
Denise
It's all about Detoxing Daily, strengthening the Immune System mixed with a dose of Positive Thinking!
 
This song is about my years with chronic lyme since 1995 and being symptom free for over 4 years:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds81S61UvPA
 
Currently taking Estrovera, ProgX (progesterone), Adrenotone Plus, CoQ10, Vitamin B Total, C, Green Vibrance, CALM (Magnesium/Calcium)

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   Posted 8/4/2010 7:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello. What a joy it was to read your post! I'm glad to hear your wife is doing well, and thank you for taking the time to come here and share that. This is all wonderful news.

Rose
I have Lyme; it doesn't have me.

daisyrlb
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   Posted 8/4/2010 7:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Lita and Lita's husband,

WOW! I couldn't be more excited for you both! I can just picture all that you are saying in my mind…as we have been there done that--Thank God!!!

There is a lot to say about American Biological Medicine…a lot of positive that is. Yup, proof is in the pudding.

Thank you so much for sharing.

Blessings of optimum health in body, mind and spirit to you both.

Rhonda

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   Posted 8/4/2010 9:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow, indeed! What an amazing and encouraging testimony regarding the wonderful improvements taking place for Lisa. We are so excited and thrilled to get this wonderful report from you about Lisa. You said, "Although I now know , these two doctors can back up all of their practice with scientific research, I could actually now care less about it. I am just happy they can get her better and have been. I say this because in our situation, We saw over 30 regular doctors, including lyme specialists, neurologists, rheumatologists, orthapedics, you name it we saw them. And to tell you the truth, this is the first time I met 2 doctors, who really care, and take in to consideration, all of what my wife says, as evedience, not just throw it to the side. Listen to the patient. I am confident that without our trip here, we would be in a state that no one could recover from."

If you've read my story, you'd see that I have expressed the exact sentiments you posted here. Like the blind man in the Bible who, after Jesus healed him, said, "The one thing I know, I was once blind, but now I see". I have no way to explain the science behind biological medicine, my brain shrunk down to the size of a pea when got lyme disease wink so there's no way for me to explain it to other people. Seriously, I'm just not that smart, but like the blind man in the Bible, I can say, "The one thing I know, I was once SICK, and now I am so much better!". No, I'm not 100% healed--but nothing is impossible with God. I do know that for three days this week I have been working physically hard, sweating in over 100 degree heat, and I still wake up in the mornings roaring and ready to go. Some days I don't feel that way, I admit it, but most days I do.

Prior to getting biological treatment at the Hansa Center I was basically dying. I could hardly do mental work in my office more than two hours a week. But now, I can work almost everyday for 8 hours or more. There just isn't enough time in the day for me to get all the work done that I need to do. But thank God I can do it now, whereas, last December all I could do is pray for death. I was so sick back in June I'd lost 75 pounds in six months. My doctors were clueless. My GI doctor suggested I go to the hospital for a feeding tube. I could write a book about the ignorant ducks I've been to who rolled their eyes every time they'd see me in their office. It's just amazing how this biological medicine works. I know people want to know the science behind it, and rightfully so. Dr. Jernigan is writing books and articles as fast as he can to get this scientific evidence out there. He wants it out there as he believes it's something people should know about, but there's only so many hours in the day for him to do everything he wants to do.

When he's out training other doctors who want to learn his protocol, or when he's away writing books and articles or giving speeches among his peers, his patients get upset with him because he isn't there to treat them. He's doing the best he can do with the limited time that he has each day. The good news is, his wonderful associate doctor, Dr. Jowdy is an awesome doctor who has been trained by Dr. Jernigan and he's constantly in contact with him, consulting with him about every patient that comes to the center, even when he's not in the office. I have said this before and I'll say it again, if Dr. Jowdy ever opened a clinic here in OKC, I would have the utmost confidence in getting treatment exclusively from Dr. Jowdy. He's a man of great character who has a gentle spirit and is a wonderful listener. Next time I go to the clinic I'm going to see if I can bribe Dr. Jowdy away from Wichita and see if he'll open a center here in OKC. turn Seriously, that's how much confidence I have in him.

Well, I sound like a HC commercial and that's not what I wanted to make this post about. It's just that I get so excited when I see someone else who was as sick (or sicker) as I was, and is now showing great progress. It makes my heart leap for joy and I thank our good Lord for the healing He is doing in Lisa's body. God has given these two doctors a special gift, and his wonderful staff too. I believe it's no accident that I was led to the HC. God used this forum, He used Denise (Deejavu) and He even used the people who tried to warn me not to go there for various reasons. I was a BIG skeptic before going to the HC, probably the biggest skeptic the HC ever had, but when you walk in that place you feel like you're surrounded by people who love and care for you as if you were their own family. It really is a special place and it's ashamed more people are not more open to this approach to healing.

But, I do understand why people are skeptical and reluctant, especially because of all the brainwashing we've had from doctors and big pharma. Sadly, people's skepticism is what will keep them sick for a long time--it did me. To those of you who were once like me, skeptical, reluctant, distrust of biological medicine, if you are still sick after being on abx for two, three, or like me, five years, and still not getting better, it's time to do something drastic. Yes, it's a risk, but so is taking all of those poisons (abx) you are taking to try to get better. My gut is still suffering from the consequences of five years of taking abx. Dr. Jernigan is going to focus on this and help me get better next time I see him (in a few weeks I believe). I trust that through BRS testing and God's leading and wisdom, he will come up with the right treatment plan to help heal my gut from the damage done to it from abx. There's a chance I could have some parasites that need to be addressed too, I don't know, but I have every confidence that Dr. Jowdy, and/or Dr. Jernigan will figure it out and get me better.

One last thing, many people say it's expensive and they can't afford this treatment protocol. Yep, it was expensive for me too. I decided that this would be the very last protocol I would try, it was do or die for me. I told my wife (daisyrlb) that if this protocol failed, then this was it. I had my funeral and financial affairs in order and was ready to go. But God had other plans. I'm so glad too because the thought of not being able to be around my three (one on the way) grandkids just tears my heart when I think about it. My grandkids are what kept me motivated to not give up. People on this forum, my wife and my family, they all encouraged me to continue to fight until I could fight no more. Well, I could not fight anymore, but when I got to the Hansa Center, they took up the fight for me and taught my body how to fight this disease on it's own. They "taught" it with their natural medicines, therapies, treatments and helped me to get rid of the negativism that had kept my mind stuck on death. I felt defeated and hopeless, but at the HC they treat the whole person--body, mind and spirit. They don't treat the disease, they treat the whole person, and that's why I believe I have done so well with this protocol.

I wake up each morning thanking God for His continued healing to every part of my body and I rejoice and thank Him for this new day of life and for the purpose He has for me to be alive today. I go to bed thanking Him for the grace and strength He's given me to get through another day. I thank God for sparing my life and giving me another chance to live and to live life to the fullest. What a difference two weeks at the Hansa Center made in my life (and my wife's too). As I've said before, yes, the protocol is expensive, but if it makes you better--it's priceless!

I pray for all of you who continue to suffer with this horrible disease. If you are still suffering after years of trying various protocols, I hope you will give some thought to at least getting Dr. Jernigan's book, "Beating Lyme Disease". You will learn more about this disease than you ever thought possible. Dr. Jernigan has suffered as much as many of us have. In fact, he suffered so much that he was sure he was going to die from this disease, just like many of us have felt at times. He has walked in our shoes, he knows this disease inside and out. If nothing else, I encourage you to read the book and at least consider trying the home protocol "The Perfect 7". Denise can help guide you along the way as she got better on the home protocol in just 8-9 months.

I chose to do the protocol at the center because I was too sick to read the book and try to figure it all out on my own. I wanted to be there to learn HOW to do it, plus I wanted to "force" Dr. Jernigan to convince me why this was the way to get better and not some kind of "hocus pocus" medicine. I was like a little kid, who after every time his parents say something, he says, "why?" I probably asked him "why" over a hundred times in the two weeks I was there. Dr. Jernigan earned every cent he got from me. I was no easy "customer", but he was patient with me, or at least pretended to be. smilewinkgrin

Rhonda and I are going to Tampa next month to see our two little granddaughters (can't wait!!!), that's something I couldn't even think of doing seven months ago. Life is good, and it's getting better, and when I see Dr. Jernigan later this month, I already got my list of questions for him. He better be ready!! devil

Lisa's husband, thanks for the update. It's a real upper and very inspirational, and I know it will be for many other's here as well.

Please let Lisa know that Rhonda and I, and many others here on the HW forum, are praying for her continued success. Any yours too!

Gary

Simela
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   Posted 8/6/2010 2:39 AM (GMT -6)   
Lita:
I am so happy for you and so glad that you decided to post!  Thank you!  I can't go, I have an infant baby and 2 other children (1 will start school this month), but I am not as sick as you.  I must say that I was terrified about this desease, now I see that there is something else out there that can be tried, so thanks for posting!  At least you found out something that was wrong!  I think these docs earned their money, it sounds like they gave you some answers and now you know what is wrong.  I'd be curious how much your bill will be.  I immagine they don't take insurance, do they?  Please let me know or PM me, thanks!

Wishing you well!

Simela
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   Posted 8/6/2010 2:50 AM (GMT -6)   
"I chose to do the protocol at the center because I was too sick to read the book and try to figure it all out on my own.", said Gary

Gary: Can you please tell me what book you are talking about and how can one follow the protocol home? I can't travel for a while.

Thank you and your wife for posting this! I am not quite sick as you guys, and I hope I'll never get there, but I do have days when I break most things I pick up, bump into every door there is, forget most basic things, and I even treat myself with OJ instead of milk in my coffee (not on purpose, LOL)! I hurt, I get numb, I have difficulty seing, walking, picking the baby up and holding her (luckly she likes the stroller, and unless it is really hot outside, it bacame our best friend, I just keep her under the trees, away from the sun). But I am still not as bad as some of you. My fear is I will get worse... I am trying to take notes and stay positive and you and your wife and others here, really helped me, while the clueless PCPs did not!

I will make an appointment tomorow with a LD doc.

Best of luck to all of you!

Deejavu
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   Posted 8/6/2010 5:25 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Simela and welcome!
 
I don't know how to say this in a nice way (CajunGrl, where are you?) but here it goes:
 
You may want to rethink your words as far as comparing your illness to others "I'm not as sick as you" or "I am still not as bad as some of you".  First of all, you really don't know that do you?  It's like comparing one cancer patient to another, everyone is different..  I know many who are cancer survivors just like I know many who are lyme survivors.. 
 
We have many members here and each member is different as well as their healing process.  You just joined this forum thus you don't know most of the members here and where they are as far as their treatment and/or if they are symptom-free like myself.
 
As far as Dr. J's book, the only place to buy it is here:
 
 
Hope this helps,
Denise
It's all about Detoxing Daily, strengthening the Immune System mixed with a dose of Positive Thinking!
 
This song is about my years with chronic lyme since 1995 and being symptom free for over 4 years:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds81S61UvPA
 
Currently taking Estrovera, ProgX (progesterone), Adrenotone Plus, CoQ10, Vitamin B Total, C, Green Vibrance, CALM (Magnesium/Calcium)

GWB
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   Posted 8/6/2010 6:36 AM (GMT -6)   
Simela,

Very sorry to hear of your suffering with this disease. You say you aren't as sick as some of us, but from some of the posts you've written, you seem to have a pretty serious case of Lyme disease. Don't take this disease lightly because it will bring you so more misery than you ever thought possible if you don't aggressively treat it.

Yes, you can order the book that Denise gave you the link to and do the "Jernigan Perfect 7 Protocol" at home. Denise actually did this a few years ago and got better following the protocol from the book. She got completely well in just 8-9 months, and like she mentioned in her recent post, she is now symptom free.

I strongly encourage you to get the book and read it. After you read it you could begin the home protocol by calling Dr. Jernigan's office and they will send you the remedies in the mail. The instructions are in the book but I'm sure there will be additional instructions sent to you when you sign up for the protocol. A good person to ask questions about this would be Denise as she has done this protocol with great success and knows a lot about it.

In the mean time, I'd suggest you go to the main page of the Lyme forum and throughly read the thread "New to Lyme? Start Here". It has some excellent information there on things you can do right now to start treating yourself. Denise has posted the Detox bath on there and that would be a good way to start right now even before you get the book.

By the way, you do need to think about what Denise said regarding breast feeding. Your OB/GYN has no clue what he/she is talking about as you definitely can pass this disease to you baby through breast milk. I would call your LLMD if you have one and tell him/her about your concerns regarding the baby. You don't want to risk giving your baby Lyme disease.

Keep us posted and be assured that we are all here to support one another in any way that we can.

Gary
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