Had my colonoscopy two days ago, my doc said ulcers worse prob from antibiotics

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therearemiracles
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   Posted 7/22/2010 12:11 PM (GMT -6)   
Do you think antibiotics can make ulcer worse, I have ulcertive colitis. I'm not discouraged right now, because I believe in miracles. It not what I wanted to hear, but I can get better with medication. I'm on nothing at this point. The antibiotics I was on, Bicillin shots, then oral zithromax everything started giving me panic attacks. I'm back to having night sweats, they seemed to go away when on was on the zithromax, but the antibiotics are tearing up my gut. Now what? I will see my LLMD when my biopsies come back in two weeks and start with him again. He's expensive, out of pocket $120-$160 a visit. Any suggestions on antibiotics?
Very mild left sided (could have fooled me with the "mild")  Ulceritive colitis. Confirmed Lymes Disease on 12/8/09 ,  major doses of antbiotics non stop for 5 months helped alot. Now taking Klarie Labs Interphase Plus and Undyclex for yeast and pathogens, fiber (3 teaspoons a day) probiotics and charcoal tabs when die off is too much. My story is too long to write, trust me I know how you feel. Don't give up, be your own advocate and find the root of the cause.


bucci
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   Posted 7/22/2010 1:01 PM (GMT -6)   
that weard. i know the antibiotics are bad for gut but isn't an ulcer a bacteria infection. isn't that what they dicovered and they give people the PREV PAC. (i think that what it called) it is 3 different antibiotics.

so is it really an ulcer? i had to take time off for gut repair.

also if you do a stool test it will tell you exactly what your stomach is doing and how it is processing. it will tell you id you have candida or low lactobaci??? and allt hat gut stuff.

my friend looked like a classic candida person. white coated tongue . always grabbing th sugar. the gut tet turned out that she really had little candida but big pancreatic insuffinciency.

also stool tests tell you about parasites.

maybe take break from abx. I am convinced it is no race to kill of the lyme. I am wondering if I would be better off just taking aantibiotics a few days out of every month to keep it from taking over and that give s me chance to have couple of nice days.

The gut thing whipes me out completely. I never know what is safe to eat when. fetta chees is usually fine. other day i took a bite and within 20 minute was down for the count..
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IH8Ticks
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   Posted 7/22/2010 1:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Ulcers, and any other stomach or digestive problems can definitely be made worse with oral antibiotics. The pills are just really harsh on the linings. Ulcers can be caused by h. pylori bacteria, but they aren't always. You need a test to find out if you have this bacteria, although the tests are 100% accurate. If h. pylori was causing the ulcers, I would think that the antibiotics would make it better, not worse.

I find it very interesting that you have night sweats and that Zithromax made it better. This is a big indication of babesia, not Lyme. Were you tested for any other tick borne infections? The treatment for babesia is usually Zithromax and Mepron, both of which may be harsh on the digestive system. You can also use artemesinin (sp?) along with that. Artemesinin is a natural substance, but that doesn't mean it won't have side effects. You may find that you tolerate it more than the antibiotics/antimalarials, but it may just take some trial-and-error.

therearemiracles
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   Posted 7/22/2010 1:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi I H8ticks
Yes I do believe I have the babesia, my LLMD sent me home with the literature talking about it. I hate the night sweats ! As soon as I meet with my GI and over biopsies I will go back to the LLMD. Thanks for your help.
 
Linda
Very mild left sided (could have fooled me with the "mild")  Ulceritive colitis. Confirmed Lymes Disease on 12/8/09 ,  major doses of antbiotics non stop for 5 months helped alot. Now taking Klarie Labs Interphase Plus and Undyclex for yeast and pathogens, fiber (3 teaspoons a day) probiotics and charcoal tabs when die off is too much. My story is too long to write, trust me I know how you feel. Don't give up, be your own advocate and find the root of the cause.


IH8Ticks
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   Posted 7/22/2010 2:00 PM (GMT -6)   
It's good that you're looking into babesia. If you indeed have it, you need to treat it appropriately. It can be hard to treat Lyme if you don't treat other co-infections as well.

The babesia symptoms really stink. (Well, ALL of the symptoms are awful.) I used to have shortness of breath because of it. Walking up a flight of stairs was a huge chore. My sweats didn't happen at night. They would come at random times during the day. In one particular instance, they hit me while I was getting a hair cut. By the time I stood up from the chair, my clothes were completely soaked through from head to toe. I can sympathize!

I don't know anything about ulcerative colitis, but have you looked into using probiotics? I mention it because one of the probiotics that I take, VSL #3, advertises that it helps with that specific condition. I take this probiotic myself, as well as others, but not for that reason. It might be worth looking into this or talking to your doctor(s) about it. I don't have any association with the company, and I can't validate their claims. Unfortunately, this particular probiotic is the most expensive one I've seen and has to be shipped overnight.

therearemiracles
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   Posted 7/22/2010 2:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Again,
yes I did try the VSL#3, i was doing 4 packets a day and no difference. I'm using Klaire Labs now, powered and seems to be ok. I'm taking Undecylex which is 30 x's stronger than caprilic acid for killing yeast and fungi and other unwated organisims it's say, which I believe I do have a problem with, yeast that is. My tounge will get  a while coating on it from time to time.
 
I just have two issues going on, don't know if Lyme's has to do with my UC, by GI I doc just says I have UC. Sucks you can't get them all in a room for a round table discussion.
Very mild left sided (could have fooled me with the "mild")  Ulceritive colitis. Confirmed Lymes Disease on 12/8/09 ,  major doses of antbiotics non stop for 5 months helped alot. Now taking Klarie Labs Interphase Plus and Undyclex for yeast and pathogens, fiber (3 teaspoons a day) probiotics and charcoal tabs when die off is too much. My story is too long to write, trust me I know how you feel. Don't give up, be your own advocate and find the root of the cause.


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   Posted 7/22/2010 2:25 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree with IH8ticks.

And a big yes for the use of probiotics!!! I like to use kefir, as it has so many more of those friendly little critters (beneficial bacteria) in it than most products offer. Homemade is best (because it's not pasturized), but even the commercial product would be very helpful.

I am so sorry to hear that you now have to deal with UC as well as the tick infections, therearemiracles.
Even the mightiest oak tree was once a little nut who held it's ground!!! May we all find peace along the journey to find healing.
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therearemiracles
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   Posted 7/22/2010 2:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the well wishes, I will get better, I know it!
Very mild left sided (could have fooled me with the "mild")  Ulceritive colitis. Confirmed Lymes Disease on 12/8/09 ,  major doses of antbiotics non stop for 5 months helped alot. Now taking Klarie Labs Interphase Plus and Undyclex for yeast and pathogens, fiber (3 teaspoons a day) probiotics and charcoal tabs when die off is too much. My story is too long to write, trust me I know how you feel. Don't give up, be your own advocate and find the root of the cause.


IH8Ticks
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   Posted 7/22/2010 6:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Lyme can wreck havoc on the digestive track, but I'm not sure if it can specifically cause or worsen ulcers. I would imagine that it could, but I can't say that for sure.

A lot of us are in similar situations. We have multiple problems going on at once. I have digestive problems, including GERD, that I think Lyme and bartonella make a million times worse. I also have hypothyroidism. Lyme can cause this, but there is no way for me to know whether Lyme is the root cause or whether I just happen to have both at the same time. It's like trying to unravel a big, tangled ball of yarn.

I use kefir as well, the store bought kind from Lifeway. It's actually the only dairy I can tolerate since the antibiotics made me completely lactose intolerant. I use it to make smoothies with fruit, since eating fruit plain can cause acid reflux problems for me.

I'm not sure if I can suggest anything else. I'm always on the lookout for new probiotics to try. I currently take VSL #3, Theralac, and Prescript Assist Pro. These keep me close to normal, but I have to take a lot every day.

DocGP
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   Posted 7/22/2010 9:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Antibiotics for Lyme gave me pancolitis and a 14 day hospitalization where I nearly died. I never had a colon problem in my life. I am not the only one. I now ask every colitis patient I see how theirs started, and antibiotics for something has been the answer for many, many patients. I would stay AWAY from them at all cost. I know that doesn't leave much for you to do...I am right there with you...BUT, losing your colon would be horrible.

I wish you the best of luck.

therearemiracles
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   Posted 7/23/2010 7:57 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm downing powder probiotics from Klaire Labs, I have to say I feel better now coming out of the colonoscopy then when I went in, other than the drugs made me feel like crap for three days! I feel like I'm not as inflammed in my rectum. I hope this continues. No more antibiotics for me for a while! Thanks for all you input and everyone who responded, we need to help each other and I feel I get the support I need from this forum!
Thanks,
 
Linda
Very mild left sided (could have fooled me with the "mild")  Ulceritive colitis. Confirmed Lymes Disease on 12/8/09 ,  major doses of antbiotics non stop for 5 months helped alot. Now taking Klarie Labs Interphase Plus and Undyclex for yeast and pathogens, fiber (3 teaspoons a day) probiotics and charcoal tabs when die off is too much. My story is too long to write, trust me I know how you feel. Don't give up, be your own advocate and find the root of the cause.

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