Has anyone tried Gerson Juice Therapy with ABX and lyme?

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pablo38
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   Posted 7/23/2010 9:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Has anyone tried Gerson Juice Therapy with ABX and lyme?

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   Posted 7/23/2010 10:00 PM (GMT -6)   
No, but I will be sure to look this up, and will certainly try it if it sounds good! Can you tell us more, Pablo?
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pablo38
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   Posted 7/23/2010 10:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Here's a nice review of a film about it: http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/germirfil.html

Here's the overview: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Gerson

I think it is a scam when taken as a cure all, but it certainly seems common sensical to believe that fresh and raw veggie and fruit juices are excellent healers and detoxers. I'm not disciplined enough for it, but I do love freshly made apple/carrot juice with a touch of sweet potato. I'm not disciplined because I need solid food too.

allieann
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   Posted 7/25/2010 12:18 AM (GMT -6)   
Gerson Therapy is an excellent program and my son was using it and antibiotics when first sick with lyme. The combination made his herx's terrible due to the cleansing action of the juice and the killing action of the antibiotics. I, personally, have known people with cancer that did indeed put the disease in remission with the Gerson method, however, lyme disease is a different situation. Cancer is usually caused by something in ones environment or lack of proper nutrition and Lyme is caused by a living organism that has entered the body from the outside and has set up housekeeping in the body's tissues. We have to kill the parasite with something that won't also kill or damage the person and doesn't make the spirochete go into the cyst form which antibiotics and many metals and supplements cause it to do.

pablo38
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   Posted 7/25/2010 8:41 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Allieann,

Thanks for the response. :)

that makes sense. You also mentioned that supplements can be harmful? Does that mean taking multis CoQ10 etc will make them go into their cyst form?

allieann
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   Posted 7/25/2010 2:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello Pablo, Our son has just started using a coil machine and we were told that during the hatching seasons of the lyme bacteria (in spring and fall) when the cysts break out and loose their outer protein layer, that they can be killed with a certain frequency. In order to kill any microorganism with a frequency they must first have a charge and when lyme is in the cyst form they do not have one, making it difficult to get at them. This is why it is so difficult to get rid of Lyme. Many rife type machines do help but most are not strong enough to penetrate deep into the tissues where the bacteria hide. The machine we have uses a 2000 watt amplifier and when it runs through the coil it approaches 4000 watts. It is supposed to be easy to kill the spirochetes with this machine due to their size and shape. It is the darn cysts that make the healing by the coil machine take so long. When your lyme bacteria load is reduced, out come the co-infections that the strong lyme bacteria usually keep in check, so these must be dealt with using different frequencies. There is a strict process you must follow here. This also happens with antibiotics where the drug can kill the weaker bugs that help keep the balance and then the strong ones go wild making the person sicker in the long run.

We have been directed to have son stay off any type of drugs, herbs or antioxidant type supplements that the spirochetes don't like, especially the minerals like zink, silver, selenium or any metal base type minerals during the time of the hatching of the cysts so they won't go back into the cyst form again. When lyme goes into the cyst form with drugs etc. you usually feel better but it doesn't kill all the lyme bacteria. I guess you could try this same approach with antibiotics but you can view under a microscope on a slide that the minute a drop of an antibiotic hits the spirochete it goes immediately into a cyst form while you are looking at it, although I think that some of the weaker bacteria are probably killed. I don't think CoQ10 or vit. c would be a problem in this case but not exactly sure.

Some very intelligent people have come down with lyme disease and are finding solutions to either curing or putting the disease in remission and some are very kind and helpful in trying to assist others in getting well. I do think we are on the cutting edge of really finding something that will help with this awful disease, at least, I sure hope so.

We have no professional medical training and the above information is just our opinion after 18 years of researching lyme due to the fact that we have 2 sons with lyme.
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