Does Exercise Make Your Lyme Symptoms Worse?

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Southerner2
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   Posted 4/29/2011 2:55 AM (GMT -6)   
All of my life, I have exercised. Before my illness started last summer, I could exercise for 90 minutes at a time several days a week with no problem. Yesterday and today, I used my Wii Fit to walk/step for 10 minutes. That little amount of exercise made me feel much worse. I feel weaker, mildly dizzy and my abdominal pain has increased. It's just unbelievable that that small amount of exercise is too much for me when it's nothing compared to the exercise I've done all my life. Not being able to exercise has been a major loss for me.

Do others of you experience an increase in your Lyme symptoms when you exercise? For those of you who have recovered from Lyme, did you regain your ability to exercise?

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Cat111
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   Posted 4/29/2011 8:37 AM (GMT -6)   
I exercise -- tennis only (very aerobic) -- on days I feel good-- and I've done this all the way through my 7 months (and counting) on antibiotics.

Sometimes I regret it....getting a bad flare that results in shoulder and upper back pain that is pretty excruciating and lasts for a few days.

Other times I feel better from the exercise. But overall, playing tennis does drag me down afterwards. A lot! No dizzyness though.

Tennis is my passion and I don't want to lose the skills I have by not playing....so I get out on the court as often as I can even though I might pay for it later.

I think some of my pain comes from muscles being weak due to the months of complete inactivity I had at one point. My brain fog, head pressure and dizzyness kept me in the house like an invalid.

Since some of my Lyme symptoms were--and still are -- upper back and shoulder pain that comes and goes even without exercise, it's no wonder that these are the areas that get most negatively affected when I do play tennis.

My LLMD did encourage me to get out there play....but I've heard and read that other LLMD's DO NOT think aerobic exercise is a good idea at all.

I'm even lifting light weights now.... and that too can cause a bit of a flare. But I push on anyway.

The fact that I do recover from these exercise induced flares and do feel good again (with no pain) in a few days means to me that my muscles and tendons have not been permanently damaged by Lyme.

I am certainly 'not recovered' yet from Lyme but am doing far better than I was several months ago.

It's disappointing that exercise still brings on a flare. In addition to muscle weakness, my flares are most definitely caused by painful muscle knots all over my upper back.

Myofacial Pain Syndrome for sure! I believe Lyme has caused this. I never had muscle knots pre-Lyme.

This is a very stubborn 'symptom' for me that just won't let go, with or without exercise. At least not yet. My stiff neck is also still hanging around.

I'm hopeful that I will recover from these issues too. But who knows.

Interestingly, I am in no pain when I play tennis or do any other exercise related activities like yard work , etc.

The pain always comes on later--- when I am lying still watching TV. So I roll around on a tennis ball to hit those trigger points which does help 'release them' temporarily or until they go away by themselves.

I just refuse to let Lyme get the best of me and prevent me from exercising and losing muscle tone. I can put up with the pain but it is getting very OLD and frustrating already!

The fight goes on!

Maybe I'm setting a bad example by sounding like an exercise advocate....therefore I'm NOT recommending it.

I think it's an individual decision and one should listen to their own doctor as to the dilemma of 'to exercise....or not.'
Lyme-- no coinfections-- never tested positive, diagnosed on symptoms. Had Lyme at least 1 year before treatment.

Meds: Doxy (2.5 months @ 200 mgs. per day) relapse after stopping. Amoxicillin (1.5 months @ 1000 mgs. per day) then Amoxicillin (1 month @ 3000 mgs. per day) Dr. added Azithromycin (250 mgs.) for another month. Now on Mepron (1500 mgs.) + Azithromycin (250 mgs.)

Razzle
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   Posted 4/29/2011 8:48 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes, exercise can bring on a symptom flare for me...any exercise...even something as simple as walking up to the mailbox & back...but I try to get out anyway as often as I can. I've had periods of being bed-bound or house-bound and I have to regain the strength somehow...exercise is the only way I know how to get that strength back...
-Razzle

Chronic Lyme, Bart., Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut dysmotility & non-specific inflammation, Lupus, Osteoporosis, etc.; G-Tube
Meds: Ceftin, LDN, Claritin, Singulair, Domperidone, nutritional supplements, homeopathy, probiotics, etc.

springsjean
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   Posted 4/29/2011 9:19 AM (GMT -6)   
My LLMD advised me no aerobics. Walking and weights. I have tried to do the treadmill but have ended up with heart palpitations every time. I LOVE to go walking but so miss my days of kick boxing and aerobic classes. I have gained so much weight and a tire around my middle which is so disappointing since I kept up with myself for so long. O well, gotta accept and move on but it doesn't mean I like buying the bigger sizes just can't let it get in my way of feeling better.
Lyme, HME, HGE, bartonella. 4 years undiagnosed despite 10 drs.
Current meds: roxythyroxine, bactrim, doryx, amanatadine, neurontin, xanax, cymbalta Prior meds: amox, minocycline, tetracy, doxy. IV refused by ins. Supplements: potassium, boluke, alpha lipoic acid, AG immune, magnesium, milk thistle, garlic, grapefruit seed extract, resistant microbes, coq10, fish oil, baby aspirin

TrailWalker
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   Posted 4/29/2011 1:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Exercise seemed to be one of the factors in my initial symptoms for Bartonella and possible lyme. After starting to jog I got head pain and pressure (meningitis) it lasted about a month.

After going off a 10 week antibiotic course I went for a strenuous hour walk and all my symptoms came back.

Knowing that Bart infects blood vessel walls it is not surprising to me that getting the blood flowing aggravates it. I am wondering if it might help to exercise WHILE ON ANTIBIOTICS to flush the bacteria out to get anti-bioticed. Any ideas?

achievinggrace
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   Posted 4/29/2011 1:19 PM (GMT -6)   
I have found that when it comes to exercise, I really have to listen to my body. Keeping active and moving is so important but there is no value to overdoing it. This has been extremely hard for me as I grew up learning that the best things can be had by pushing through the pain and great strength can be gained by overdoing it!

There seem to be different phases of physical strength and ability as the healing process goes on, I have found after going through this process twice. The situation can change from one week to the next and from one day to the next. Inactivity while healing can lead to a great loss of strength and stamina; I found I had to be careful not to cause injury by getting back to exercise too quickly or too vigorously. Other times the body and mind were willing but my heart couldn't keep up. And other times I was able to go windsurfing and snowboarding!

You should be able to work up to a good level of exercise once your treatment is done. While I have been being treated for Lyme, I found Yoga, walking, and gentle swimming (bobbing around, not laps) have been the best for keeping active. The gentle exercise keeps you supple and strong and definitely helps with a positive outlook.

Take care!

Lymie20
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   Posted 4/29/2011 2:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes when i try to exercise i get slightly dizzy

Jeminij
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   Posted 5/1/2011 2:04 PM (GMT -6)   
yes, exercise can bring out your symptoms, but exercise is also key to recovery. It is really important to continue to exercise even when you don't feel that well. Of course, listen to your body and don't push yourself, but if you can try to do something on a regular basis it will help you in the long run.

I was an athlete all my life and when I got sick with lyme I was bedridden. I literally couldn't do anything but lay in bed for months while I was on treatment. I had to start all over again and began by walking on a treadmill for 2 minutes a day. That's all I could do at the time. I worked my way up to 5 minutes and so on until I could gradually do more and more. I then began to lift weights. Light weights which really helped. I could herx after if I pushed myself too hard, but I tried to always do a something even if was a walk around the cul-de-sac I lived on at the time. 3 years later (I was on abx for 2 1/2 years) I was working out 6 days a week at the gym with a trainer 2 days a week for 2 hours a session. I ran 3 miles no problem on a regular basis and was in the best shape of my life.

So yes, you can go on to exercise again. In fact exercise is what I believe helped me get well as much as any antibiotic and exercise is what kept me well for over 3 years. As soon as I quit the gym and stopped working out (got into a new relationship and I let my workouts go) I relapsed within 6 months.

Had I known then what I know now I would never have stopped exercising for anything. I still work out on a regular basis. I have a toddler and a fiance and a house to take care of now so not as much free time, but exercise is still an important factor to staying well from lyme and getting well from lyme.

I can't stress that enough.

bucci
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   Posted 5/1/2011 10:44 PM (GMT -6)   
I still have the lyme and bartonella and other confections going on but getting rid of parasites and heparin for the thick blood along wit visceral manipulation/cranial work is the only reason I am able to get up and walk around and started taking /bikram yoga again.

Oh and did I for get pain killers??
For me it is just not happening without them and cortisone. This is how I get around and function. I hate both these drugs especially because it means really watching the aggressive the behavior.

i don't take antibiotics or do any of the herbal protocols. I just can't go back into the herx torture.

My doctor told me that even if I was completely cured there is too much nerve damange.

There are times that things flare up and I am flattened out. I live in a small town of about 500 and it seems we all come down with something at the same time. so many people are very sensitive and sick.

There was a time when exercise would kill me and the thing that changed that was PARASITE MEDICATION. not even the herbs. I did pharmaceutical. But if I had not gotten the stool test I had gotten I really believe an ordinary one that is covered by insurance would have not picked up what this $395 stool test did.

It changed everything and I have never had a bloated stomach (which I had my entire life) after that.

I had to stop doing the Bikram yoga for about 5 yrs because every time i did it I would be in agony and super flu like. But with heparin blood thinner my blood moves and flushes out toxins and not gets stuck up in my brain and everywhere else backing up on me.

It would be great if we could have any other people who have had these two things taken care of like I did to weigh in on the difference. I really think people who are in treatment with heavy abx and have not had this special stool test done and the ISAC panel for thick blood are really suffering and relapsing.

here is something that I AM TOTALLY MAKING UP RIGHT NOW. If we have all these bacterias and lyme and this and that how do we know our parasites don't have it also? I believe that all people with lyme should be educated for at least 2 hours by a TICK BONE specialits. Ticks carry parasites. Chronic lyme and all these other confections or some doctors believe that lyme is the confection ..causes THICK BLOOD. you can read in this all over the google search. ask your doctor to check you for thick blood with an ISAC panel.

My lyme doctor knew before the blood test came back and put me on heparin right away because he didn't want to risk me having a stroke while I was under his care getting IV treatment.

Before this , i couldn't even walk down the stairs without sliding along the wall and went up on all fours.

I'm no ball of fire but being in pain takes the life out of me. I definitely am stuck with these medications but I am functioning. i don't think I could go jogging. I am able to do the Bikram yoga and NOT everyday. once a week is a big enough of a detox flushing my liver and kidneys and pumping my heart . I can't go even 3 times. Am I in pain after......yes and no. I am on the same dose of pain meds but I don't care because I feel my body alignment is corrected and I just had an big detoxifying class.

I can always lay on the floor if it too much but somehow I make it through and the other people in the class make me stronger. If i was listening to a tape by myself I would be quitting after the first asana. I need the support of the group. It's not easy for anyone .

th stool test was metegenex. gouge it for some details especially if you feel this squeezing around the heart and stomach troubles. i think so much weigh problems is parasites or bacteria in the gut or even attacking the pancreas.

Don't beat yourself up as being lazy if you can't do the exercise. this disease is debiliting but don't give up and I use all the info I learn on this forum to make some obvious sense of what is going on with me but I'm too whipped out to even trust my own judgement. then I hear things hear and I know I'm not crazy OR lazy.
20 yrs of doctors . DEC. 2009 tested positive for lyme, bartonella, ehrichiosis, HHPV6, chlamadyal pneumonia .
parasites :strongylides, diaoebia fragialis, hook worm.

Hep C ....fibro, rhumatoidal,depression,

aquaholical
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   Posted 5/2/2011 8:50 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree with Jeminij, exercise is an important part of recovery. From what I've read increased oxygen flow kills off bacteria, hence the flare of symptoms. The key is to take it slow slow slow and ease yourself back into it.

I was a triathlete and before I started getting really sick my long runs were up to 15 miles. When I discovered what exercise intolerance was (the hard way, of course) I was crushed. Luckily I did lots of digging and reading and found some great resources. The following blog has been of tremendous help (and inspiration!):

http://chronictriathlete.com/wordpress/training-with-lyme-disease-part-1-focus-on-today-train-for-tomorrow
aquaholical.blogspot.com

Exercise Diva
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   Posted 6/22/2011 6:53 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm new to all this stuff..but I just read your dilema...I was diagnosed in May with 
Lymes..border line Bartonella and off the charts Babesia...I too worked out for 90
minutes 6-7 days a week.....I have been taking meds since May and I tried to do
a work-out yesterday...only 24 minutes...a beach body workout and was seriously
struggling...after 18 minutes..I had to talk myself into finishing....today I am experiencing
air hunger and I can't move..not a good idea..I read up on it and it's not suggested..but
you can do yoga and good a medium paced walk..I am so bummed I can't workout..Dr.
says it will probably be a year until I'm back to normal with my exercise regime...take
is slowly...I feel your pain.....
 
 

Traveler
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   Posted 6/23/2011 11:15 AM (GMT -6)   
HI Exercise Diva!!
Welcome to the forum!!! I am so sorry to hear that you have a need to be here, but I am sure glad you found us!! I'm sure you will find us to be a caring, helpful and understanding group!!

We have several members here who were extremely active before Lyme and other tick-borne infections entered their lives. A couple of them used to run marathons!!!

Maybe you could tell us a bit about yourself? Are you detoxing, dry skin brushing, and drinking plenty of lemon water? A lot of well-meaning docs don't understand the importance of detoxing, but the need to detox is very real!

If you haven't already, it would be beneficial for you to start with reading through the thread at the top of the forum titled,"New to Lyme?...Start here!!", as it is packed full of relevant information and informative links that have been put together by our members here! We also have a pretty good search function on this forum to help you narrow down your search for information from past posts.

Once again, welcome to our little spot!!! smilewinkgrin
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Exercise Diva
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   Posted 6/23/2011 11:22 AM (GMT -6)   
Well..it's a long story..this is my second round..but this time they
diagnosed me with Post Traumatic Syndrome because my husband was in a horrible accident..he lived..but it was horrible..anyway..all the anxiety, panic..tremors were because I was full of stress...that was in March..and I finally insisted on blood work at the end of April...I have Western Blot, border line Bartonella and Babesia...I've taken 3 weeks of Doxy..got stomach inflamation..was put on Amox...for like two weeks..and now I just
finished the Babesia Treatment..I am feeling horrible right now...I guess I will have to have another round of something..my Dr. gave me a script for Ceftin..I'm thinking about going to an Infection Disease Specialist...I miss working out..it's my therapy..and love the feeling...
 
I think when I worked out I gave the Lyme a boat load of Oxygen and I heated up my body resulting in a boat load of Toxins...I've been drinking lots of decaf green tea..and would love to take Lemon Water, but my acid reflux wouldn't like it that much..I'm taking raw honey with cinnamon...
Any other suggestion..I'm about to burst into tears...
 
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