Rife Machine: Coil or Plasma?

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Rachacha
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   Posted 12/17/2011 5:07 PM (GMT -6)   
I have late disseminated lyme disease with my MAJOR symptoms being muscle pain (mostly in my back), joint pain as well as brain fog and headaches.  We are looking into purchasing a rife machine as a cornerstone to my treatment and are curious which is better: coil or plasma? 
Thanks!

scorp7
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   Posted 12/19/2011 12:13 AM (GMT -6)   
I have the Doug Coil Machine.  I am loving it so far and So far very effective.
I am sure each one has their benefits.  It would be good to do some research on them and read all you can before purchasing.  You definitely want one strong enough to do the job.

Cheetah girl
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   Posted 12/19/2011 6:31 AM (GMT -6)   
scorp7 - where did you get your coil machine from? I am looking into purchasing one.

WWJD20
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   Posted 12/19/2011 3:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Rachacha-How's your research going on the rife? I wish I could help you but I'm not familiar with other machines.

Anyway, just curious, (I've been using one, and I know it's working!) So I hope you find the right one for YOU!

Rachacha
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   Posted 12/20/2011 3:40 PM (GMT -6)   
WWJD20,

My husband and I have been researching a lot and we have found that the coil and plasma are supposed to be the most effective rife machines. I found a woman who lives locally who has a plasma machine and she is allowing me to try it a few times for free to see how I do. I have since done 2 treatments at 4 lyme specific frequencies, for 2 minutes per frequency the 1st session and 2 min. 30 seconds per frequency for the 2nd session. I herx'd a bit after both sessions during the night (inside shakes mostly) and felt woozy in the morning with a little increased muscle and joint pain. I see that as a positive sign it is working. So we will most likely purchase a plasma rife machine, especially since there is a local guy who sells them for about $1500.

Thanks for asking wink
Hope all is well and take care!

hkblau
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   Posted 12/25/2011 10:48 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Rachacha,
What type of plasma machine are you planning to purchase? I have never tried any of the machines and am having trouble making my decision. Thanks!!

hkblau
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   Posted 12/25/2011 10:52 AM (GMT -6)   
hi Jess1ca318,
I would love to talk with you about the BCX Ultra!. My email is listed, please get in touch!!
Thanks.

allieann
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   Posted 12/25/2011 12:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Son has a coil machine and happy with what it is doing for him.

allieann
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   Posted 12/25/2011 2:24 PM (GMT -6)   
 The reason we choose the coil machine is because
the coil is a very different machine compared to the rife. The coil is the strongest we could find and we felt we needed the strongest machine available to kill lyme.  Also the coil does not use the  RF carrier frequencies and this was one of our main concerns in purchasing a coil/rife machine.  It will probably take a long time to rid the body of lyme and co-infections as it does with any method to treat these diseases so patience is truly needed here.
 

Post Edited (allieann) : 1/1/2012 9:21:02 PM (GMT-7)


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   Posted 12/25/2011 4:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Allieann,
I was trying to do some reading on this and saw your post. I tried to follow up on what you had said about the use of 'dangerous RF carrier frequencies', but didn't find anything that spoke about that. Can you point me to where I can do some reading on what is meant and hopefully the why's behind it?
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Treating with Acupuncture, Traditional & Modern Chinese Medicine & Western Herbs. Before tx, I had all but 20 of the symptoms on the "Master Symptom List"

"Absence of proof is not proof of absence" - Dr. Edwin Masters, great LLMD & researcher -RIP

I break up my post because my eyes have been effected by TBI's as well, making long paragraphs very hard to read.

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   Posted 12/26/2011 8:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you!! :-)
Co-Moderator, Lyme Disease ;)

Treating with Acupuncture, Traditional & Modern Chinese Medicine & Western Herbs. Before tx, I had all but 20 of the symptoms on the "Master Symptom List"

"Absence of proof is not proof of absence" - Dr. Edwin Masters, great LLMD & researcher -RIP

I break up my post because my eyes have been effected by TBI's as well, making long paragraphs very hard to read.

hkblau
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   Posted 12/26/2011 9:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi!!
I would appreciate info on RF as well. I was looking at the BCX Ultra which is RF and I have heard good things about it!
If you could send to my posted Email I would appreciate it!!
Thanks

Purplegirl
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   Posted 12/27/2011 3:49 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi everyone ~ I am very confused but Interrested in a Rife Machine but have no clue whats good and whats not ... Can anyone help ??????
~Angie~

Cheetah girl
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   Posted 1/2/2012 9:26 AM (GMT -6)   
The best book out there if you want to read about Rife Machines is "When antibiotics fail: Lyme disease and Rife Machines" by Bryan Rosner. I have used them at my naturopath's office and I believe this is the best hope for fighting Chronic Lyme.

hkblau
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   Posted 1/2/2012 9:36 AM (GMT -6)   
What type of machine did you use in your naturopath office?

Cheetah girl
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   Posted 1/2/2012 12:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Basically everything that is described in the Rife Machine book by Bryan Rosner. First I would have an F-Scan (pg 103 in the book)- that measures which frequencies you should be hitting that day. Then I would use an AC Contact Machine (pg 98). I would then head on over to a different room and do the Coil Machine (pg. 90). He also has a EMEM Machine (pg 93) which I would use sometimes. There is a DC machine (High Power Magnetic Pulser - pg. 100) but I don't recall using that. He also has a Multi-Wave oscillator (pg 104) but I never used that for Lyme.

I am also using the Cowden Protocol (supplements) in addition to using the Rife machines. They all helped but it just is too expensive to continue to see him so I am in the process of getting a AC Contact machine (which can cost from $600 to $3K) and a Doug Coil ($2K). Hopefully I can get a F-scan too but I heard that they are expensive ($4K).

hkblau
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   Posted 1/2/2012 2:07 PM (GMT -6)   
WOW!! That is some amazing naturopath!! Having all that equipment in one place!! So you are going to purchase the GB4000 and a coil?? I have Brians book and I guess the F-scan results are questionable. I was thinking about the BCX ultra. Was there one of those in the office?? There is a big clinic in Arizona, Envita, and they send all of their patients home with a BCX Ultra. Since I have not tried any machines, I really am at a loss, tho. Thank you for your info!!

Cheetah girl
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   Posted 1/2/2012 4:24 PM (GMT -6)   
I will be at his office tomorrow so I will see what model machine it is. His office is in Fairfield County in Connecticut and he treats many people with Lyme. He likes to treat people with these types of therapies. He also has a hyperbaric oxygen chamber which can be used for Lyme also in addition to brain injuries and MS. I have heard of some people using Ozone (oxygen) treatment for Lyme. and getting positive results.

hkblau
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   Posted 1/2/2012 10:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, We live in Massachusetts. I would love to know who this naturopath is. We are still waiting for results from Igenex for my daughter , but she was started on antibiotics. Does your practitioner use any antibiotics?? My email is listed and I would love to be in touch with you. We have never tried any machines and I would like to buy something but not sure which way to go!! What does he charge for you to use a machine?? Does he guide you? There is a company called truerife and they have a scanner with their system. Do you think the F scan is accurate?? Do you feel better yet? Herxing?? Take care!

Cheetah girl
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   Posted 1/3/2012 7:55 AM (GMT -6)   
No - he doesn't use antibiotics at all. He strongly feels that the best way to treat Chronic Lyme is with the Rife machines and supplements (Cowden Protocol). I do believe that the F-scan is accurate and I definitely had herx reactions. I have been going to him for about 2 years and I really like him a lot. I feel that he is on the right track for helping people who have chronic Lyme get cured (I have had it for many years and I didn't know it). I originally went to him because I thought I had RSD and through a blood test at Igenex - and symptoms - I had Lyme.

The problem with these machines you have to use it often (a couple times a week) and it could take maybe a year or two of doing it. I was starting to feel better than had a relapse. Unfortunately this way of treatment is very time consuming (not taking a pill and going on your way) and expensive (office visit about $200 each time). i would do the F-scan first and that would take 30 mins, then the AC rife would take 60 mins then I would go to another room to do the Coil for another 45 mins. This is why I want to buy my own machines.

I will email you with my phone number so if you would like we can chat about it.

Take care

PamelaMarie
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   Posted 9/2/2012 6:36 AM (GMT -6)   
I would love the name and phone number of your naturopath in Fairfield County Conn. I have had chronic Lyme for over 3 years with LLMD prescribing abx for 2 years. Usual Lyme pain and symptoms but most recently I have sharp stabbing pain in my right hand which prevents me from using it. I want to feel my best before my wedding day at the end of this month.

Will email you a personal message

Thanks~
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