Samento & Banderol

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Purplegirl
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   Posted 12/20/2011 11:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Has anyone used these 2 together ??  How do you dose them and can they be taking anytime of the day ???

achievinggrace
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   Posted 12/20/2011 12:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi purplegirl,

The instructions I got with my bottles said to take them 30 mins away from food. Put the drops in water (start with a couple drops and work up to thirty) and let stand for a couple minutes. Do not mix the Samento and Banderol in the same glass of water.
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bucci
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   Posted 12/20/2011 12:18 PM (GMT -6)   
What is samento treating
What is banderol treating
20 yrs of doctors . DEC. 2009 tested positive for lyme, bartonella, ehrichiosis, HHPV6, chlamadyal pneumonia .
parasites :strongylides, diaoebia fragialis, hook worm.

Hep C ....fibro, rhumatoidal,depression,

Purplegirl
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   Posted 12/20/2011 12:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Well .. I am waiting on Igenex testing to come back for Lymes but I am trying to self treat for now as I am very sick and I read that these 2 things can be of great help with Lymes and Co-infections and I am sure I have both ... Here is the weirdest thing .. Back in Oct I went to the ER as I couldnt breathe , had chills, was coughing to the point I thot I was guna throw my lungs up but yet nothing woukd come up excpet a little phelm so they did xrays and told me I had pneumonia and gave me Zithromax .. the next day after taking 500mg of Zithro I felt alot better(not where i know I should be but better then I was ) but then when i down to 250mg for the next 5 days I started feeling worse again ... and then the Doc told me that the Radiologst that read my xray the next day said I did NOT have pheumonia...WEIRD so then a week later I had the same symptoms starting over again so the Doc put me on Levaquin.I couldnt take that as it gave me anxiety .. so then a week after that I had to have surgery and they gave ne IV antibotics and I fekt ok for a few weeks so now I just ended 14 days agan of Zithromax which 250mg made me a little better but last night I took 500 mg and oddly enough am better today and can breathe alot better ... This is all weird to me .. What could be goin on ????????????????????????/

Apple-a-Day
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   Posted 12/20/2011 1:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Bucci,
Samento and Banderol are shown to fight Borrelia very well in vitro (Eva Sapi research). There has not been however serious studies done on how they work in actual patients.
But some LLMDs are saying that they are getting excelent results with these herbs. Samento is supposed to be good for regular form of borrelia, while Banderol - for cysts and biofilms.

Apple-a-Day
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   Posted 12/20/2011 1:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Purplegirl,
I used to get the terrible cough every winter (to the point where I would start choking) and it would last at least a month if not longer. It seems to be allergic in nature. Once I stopped getting fresh fir trees for Christmas (mold grows on cut trees), and stayed away from cut flowers and some potted plants (like poinsettias) I rarely get the cough anymore.

bucci
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   Posted 12/20/2011 2:56 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks, Apple.

Purple... Why did they give you levequan?

One of my Lyme doctors use it for BARTONELLA.

It may have been a die off reaction for you if you have that.

I never got the prescription filled because it was $$ also it
can have side effect . Google levequan for bartonella.
20 yrs of doctors . DEC. 2009 tested positive for lyme, bartonella, ehrichiosis, HHPV6, chlamadyal pneumonia .
parasites :strongylides, diaoebia fragialis, hook worm.

Hep C ....fibro, rhumatoidal,depression,

Purplegirl
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   Posted 12/20/2011 4:34 PM (GMT -6)   
They gave me levaquin when thy still thought I had pneumonia after the z pack
~Angie~

skBM
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   Posted 12/20/2011 4:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, here are some links to read about samento and banderol.

http://www.townsendletter.com/July2010/sapi0710.html

http://www.mdjunction.com/forums/lyme-disease-support-forums/medicine-treatments/129318-anyone-against-samento


I am taking the two now and seeing good results so far. At this point I can recommend S&B. I am feeling better about 90% of the time, compared to 30% of the time when I was on abx.
(I am also taking milk thistle, nattokinase, serrapeptase, bromelain, and whole food supplement).
lyme since ~april 2011

Purplegirl
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   Posted 12/20/2011 9:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Ok.. Thanks so much!!!!
~Angie~

Carrie48
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   Posted 12/21/2011 11:00 AM (GMT -6)   
I am taking both....I'm up to 20 drops. I think they do something because I do feel like I have to be careful taking them because of herxing.
DX with Lyme and Erlichosis in January 2010. January-August: Biaxin and Amoxicillian. September 2011 - ? on Rifampin and Zithromax. Symtpoms mostly neuro and have 20 small lesions on brain.

Purplegirl
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   Posted 12/21/2011 11:36 AM (GMT -6)   
I have them both and have started them on my own but am only taking 3 drops right now of each like 15 minutes apart ... Not real sure if they can be taking together
~Angie~

Carrie48
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   Posted 12/21/2011 12:02 PM (GMT -6)   
I was taking them together until the other day when it was posted that you should take them 15 minutes apart. Now I'm doing that.
DX with Lyme and Erlichosis in January 2010. January-August: Biaxin and Amoxicillian. September 2011 - ? on Rifampin and Zithromax. Symtpoms mostly neuro and have 20 small lesions on brain.
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