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Scandic
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   Posted 1/3/2012 12:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Am on day 11 of 2x 200mg Fluconazole. (Diflucan)

Prior to the Fluconzole I had rapid heart-rate issues, but it was always even. On day 2 of the Fluco, my heart rate slowed down and I've been feeling pretty good. Been able to go for walks.

I've been having vibrations in my rib cage, mostly at night. My LLMD thinks it's my vagus nerve.

Last few days the vibrations have been getting more frequent, also coming during the day, for 2-3 hours on end. Very tiring, as it feels as if there are multiple heartbeats going, or sort of like two different songs are playing at the same time, if that makes sense, but while it happens, I can feel my heartbeat even, often no faster than 70.

Yesterday in the late afternoon I felt my heart skipping beats, I brushed it off as a one-off. Today I had an episode of about an hour of skipped heartbeats, again in the late afternoon/early evening.

I'm scared, and tired of my heart acting up. BP is 110/60, pulse 68. Even when it was skipping, it was not over 76 beats.

Anyone any experience with skipped heartbeats and Fluco?

Of course, it's evening here, I can't call my LLMD and ask. My husband is about to explode and either drag me to the ER or yell at my LLMD. I'm just scared and fed up.

Should I skip this evening's dose of Fluco? I know it has a long half-life.

Scarlet Grace
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   Posted 1/3/2012 2:20 PM (GMT -6)   
I think you should call the doctor on call or go in to an urgent care. The more worried you are, the more your heart will probably skip beats. Call your doctor and see what they want you to do.

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   Posted 1/3/2012 3:02 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree with Scarlet Grace, if it's worrying you, it'll probably do you some good to call your doctor. I have no experience with Fluconazole, but a while back I was having some weird heart symptoms. I skipped beats, it would pound for no reason - my resting heart rate is still pretty high for no reason that I can think of - and I think I had the same experience you mentioned, that feeling of multiple heartbeats, although I usually feel it in my back.

Since I got my heart checked out and saw that there were no abnormalities (although I skipped a beat right there in the doctor's office!) I've been much more at ease.

When my heart was really giving me problems, I'd usually take something like xanax, or have some chamomile tea, and that really seemed to help.

I hope you feel better soon!
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   Posted 1/3/2012 3:11 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree with the others, Scandic. Get a hold of your LLMD. S/he should have an emergency number, and -in my opinion - this would qualify. Especially since you have been having issues with your heart.

Lyme can cause some very serious heart issues for some people, so don't brush it off. If your LLMD doesn't seem to be taking this very seriously, then it's time to find another LLMD!

In the mean time, as Border suggested, take a deep breath and try to relax with a cup of chamomile tea, or even have hubby give you a foot rub - that relaxes a lot of people!

Also I would suggest that you and you LLMD go a little slower with the meds - your body isn't up to a full on attack of the Lyme evidently. Chin up though!! You are in good company still!! Several here have to move slowly with our treatment - including me! smilewinkgrin
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Scandic
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   Posted 1/3/2012 3:54 PM (GMT -6)   
It's going to have be an ambien and hope it does not re-occur during the night. It's 11pm now where I am, and my only option would be the ER... My LLMD is 2 hours away in another country... he's on the list to call tomorrow morning.

It stopped skipping a few hours ago and let's hope it stays that way for the night. I won't take the fluconazole tonight. I know it has a long half-life and won't leave the system that quickly, so it may not make a difference, but why add to it...

I'm bummed as I was feeling better on the fluco, heart-rate down, much calmer than it'd been in months. My heart is a nice 72 right now (not that it was fast even when it was skipping).

Foot rubs are a good idea. Think we need to get one in for hubby, he's pretty stressed out... you know, he wants to DO something to fix it all...

Thank you all for your kind support.

Scandic
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   Posted 1/4/2012 7:39 AM (GMT -6)   
I got some sleep, thanks to the ambien, then spent three hours lying awake feeling my ribs vibrate...

The LLMD wants me to come in tomorrow. I had an appointment for next week already, but he doesn't want to wait. (neither do I, so am relieved he suggested to come in sooner)

It's a 2 hour drive, my husband is going to have to do some explaining at work on short notice so he can take me. I think he can do with having a talk with the doc himself, get some of the frustration out.

His secretary said he is blocking extra time for me. Guess I'm turning out to be a tricky case... I must have sounded pretty wonky when she spoke to me, because she said she'd email my husband the appointment time to confirm...

Right now it's headache, sore throat, all the herxy stuff I guess, which I can just crawl under a blanket and get through. Hoping no more creepy heart stuff tonight.

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   Posted 1/4/2012 1:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Hang in there, Scandic! You'll make it!
I'm so glad to hear that your LLMD wants to see you right away! I'm sure it's a huge relief for you! Heck!! It's a relief for me to know that your going to be seen quickly!! LOL!

I too think it's a good idea for your hubby to go with you - my hubby is the same way, he just wanted to fix me!! It's hard for him to watch me when I'm having a bad day still. Ya gotta love them though!! They do this out of love!

Please be sure to let us know what your LLMD has to say when you are up to it!

Gentle ((((((hugs)))))) to you!!!
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I break up my post because my eyes have been effected by TBI's as well, making long paragraphs very hard to read.

Scandic
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   Posted 1/6/2012 4:53 AM (GMT -6)   
Well, did the big trek to the LLMD and back yesterday.

I think it did my husband good to vent some frustrations and hear that it was a bad herx, that there is most likely nothing wrong with my heart (but I can go to a cardiologist to get it checked if I like).

I was given the "be more patient" speech, which I didn't really appreciate. Let him try to sleep with vibrating ribs that wake you up every 10 minutes and see what the sleep deprivation does....

Bottom line, he thinks the Candida is a bigger problem than the Lyme right now and my body won't be ready to heal until we clear it.

Thinking back, I've been complaining to my gyno & house doctor for over a year (so way before the tick bite) about not feeling right, sleeping badly, heart too fast at night, etc... so it's probably been candida for a while.

I'm being given a few days off meds to catch my breath, and then on Monday I am to start on low dose Naltrexene, which he is hoping will calm the nerve vibrations, continue with the Fluconazole, but 1x/day instead of 2 and take some olive oil/ozone drops called Ozol to help with detoxing. 6 weeks of that, then go see him again.

I apparantly am one of his over-sensitive patients, I herx easily and badly... (great...)

I asked about doing tests to confirm the suspicions (because if I hadn't mentioned that my tongue seemed odd a couple of weeks ago, we wouldn't have ended up on the candida track), and he said he felt he had enough info, but did want to do a 24 hour urine test to check my thyroid levels (apparantly more accurate than in the blood).

Heart has calmed down now that I'm off the meds for a few days.

I'm bummed though, a few weeks ago I was doing one-hour walks and was able to go out and do errands, now it's a struggle to just change the cat's litter tray. I feel worse than when the Lyme was not being treated...

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   Posted 1/6/2012 8:32 AM (GMT -6)   
I too had numerous bouts of heart pain, skipped beats, hearts racing. I was afraid to go to bed at night. It is so scarey. Have you tried magnesium? It calms things down. Also, make sure you are not having any caffeine or chocolate. It makes my heart race still, even with feeling better.

Are you detoxing and taking probiotics? I hope today is a more relaxing day for you. :)
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Scandic
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   Posted 1/6/2012 12:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, magnesium, no coffee, no chocolate and taking probiotics. Drinking Green Water to detox. Chlorocaps.

LLMD told me to stay away from detox baths because of the heart, but I tried them anyway (not too hot), but don't find the baths make a difference.

Thankfully, heart stayed calm today, but I've been horribly tired, anxious and depressed. I tried napping, but just couldn't fall asleep.

Do herxes last for 5 days? I've been feeling utterly crap since Monday. (and I guess this is a candida herx???)

The house is a pit, we're running out of food and catfood. Thankfully, it's weekend, so my husband can go out and shop.

What else can I do to try to feel a little better?

springsjean
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   Posted 1/6/2012 4:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes a herx can take as long as it takes your body to rid the amount of toxins it has in it.  It is never a set amount of days and never the same. 
 
Unfortunately a good herx means your treatment is working.  Perhaps you will have to cut out the walking all together for a while.  Everytime I ever tried (and still) to up my physical activity I seem to go downhill.  I guess the body can only take so much. 
 
Try and rest and relax as much as you can and maybe keep your mind occupied.  Do you like to read or listen to music or crafts.  I find it really helps to keep the mind preoccupied so I don't worry about my health. 
 
 
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   Posted 1/6/2012 6:29 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree with the Springsjean, Scandic. You need to rest. Your body is waging a great war inside of you - feels like it too, huh? If you don't already have any 'hobbies' to occupy you, it's time to find some! I discovered that when I have to be still like that, I enjoy quilting! Start doing some little things that you think you might like if you aren't sure where to start - jigsaw puzzles, reading some books. If your brain is still working well, then what about taking some online courses?? Most likely you'll be back to doing the things you enjoy -like your walking - before long. You just need to let your body repair first.

Detoxing is essential in my opinion, and it sounds like you could be having some of the issues I have with detoxing. You can still do things like dry skin brushing, drinking plenty of lemon water, and juicing certain foods that help your body detox. Maybe you can ask your LLMD next time you see him about taking a binding agent like activated charcoal or something to help trap and expel more toxins?
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I break up my post because my eyes have been effected by TBI's as well, making long paragraphs very hard to read.

Scandic
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   Posted 1/7/2012 4:38 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm terrible at sitting still, esp when there is stuff that needs doing, housecleaning, grocery shopping, you know...

The hardest is the not being able to get out of the house, and spending so much time indoors and just being in the livingroom sofa. With the added frustration that a few weeks ago I was moving about and getting things done just fine.

It's a little easier when my husband is home from work, makes it easier for me to sit still, if that makes sense... Feeling tired is one thing, but yesterday it was going over into feelings of anxiety and desperation.

Well, I guess I have no choice. Today I'm making a grocery list and sending hubby off to the shops. What he comes back with from the list is always a surprise. tongue

Key thing is for him to come home with the right catfood, my 16.5 year old cat is diabetic, and she's the most precious thing I have in the house, she almost died 2 years ago from undiagnosed diabetes, and she's a little ray of hope & sunshine, that I still have her 2 years later. I look at her and I think "if she could pull through, I can too".

Thank you for your kind tips and support.

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   Posted 1/7/2012 2:06 PM (GMT -6)   
I know what you mean, Scandic! I used to be the same way - I couldn't go outside because of the tempurature fluctuations, and I didn't have enough energy to even go on a short walk. Although I can tell you that with treatment, I now have a rather active life -considering where I've been!

Hang in there, get through this time period. It won't last forever, but you should find some new activities to do while you are in this position. Keeping your mind active will help not only it, but it'll help keep you from spending too much time in thought about your illness.
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I break up my post because my eyes have been effected by TBI's as well, making long paragraphs very hard to read.
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