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KaliDhi
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   Posted 1/16/2012 6:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Ok i know the FDA says this & that but I don't care about them much. Im curious if anybody has had POSITIVE results with MMS. Please share your negative results but only if you used it correctly. It was recommended to me by a very dear trusting friend. So, Im awaiting my shipment but still having difficulty finding any information that sounds legit about it regarding Lyme.

(I have chronic lyme 16 years)

Thank you for sharing any information or experience!

Zeusy
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   Posted 1/16/2012 10:30 PM (GMT -6)   
What is MMS?

Morti81
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   Posted 1/17/2012 7:22 AM (GMT -6)   
I'd be interested in response to this too!

achievinggrace
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   Posted 1/17/2012 7:59 AM (GMT -6)   
You can just google MMS (Miracle Mineral Supplement) to find more information.

Do be sure to look at the what the FDA says about it as well.
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KaliDhi
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   Posted 1/17/2012 11:39 AM (GMT -6)   
Im sorry if this comes across as offensive to anybody but...Do people really trust the FDA?

Here is the proper link for real MMS:

http://www.mmshealthyforlife.com/

The FDA has a problem with it from what I understand because people are/were mis-using it. Taking way too high of doses far too quickly. And theres the people who don't realize you will get worse before you get better (I absolutely cant stand this fact either but why deny it?). I think with any product or treatment you have to strictly follow the guidelines & look at the risks & how to support your system while you are on it. All the support info is there, you just have to actually read it.

KaliDhi
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   Posted 1/18/2012 1:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you for your input. I am curious: Are there any treatments that DONT have danger and/or serious repercussions?

achievinggrace
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   Posted 1/18/2012 1:38 PM (GMT -6)   
LOL, KaliDhi,

Good point! With this disease we are kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place, aren't we?

I often wonder why there are such terrifying warnings about the treatments for Lyme when Cancer is routinely treated with chemotherapy, a very dangerous thing, indeed!

All the treatments are worth looking into and researching thoroughly. You and the professional treating you can weigh up the risks versus the potential harm.

Hope you get some good info soon.
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bucci
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   Posted 1/18/2012 4:28 PM (GMT -6)   
MMS... be careful to only use as many drops they say or LESS.

this stuff is pretty intense . I tried it with my friend. She seemed to be OK
but I was not. I don't want to call it a herx either. but I'm sure there are peoplle saying it is the cure for lyme.
I think MMS claims to cure lyme???

be careful. the reading material that comes with it is fascinating.
it's a miracle.

I'm trying to think of what I haven't tried at this point???

let us know how you make out.
20 yrs of doctors . DEC. 2009 tested positive for lyme, bartonella, ehrichiosis, HHPV6, chlamadyal pneumonia .
parasites :strongylides, diaoebia fragialis, hook worm.

Hep C ....fibro, rhumatoidal,depression,

KaliDhi
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   Posted 1/18/2012 5:19 PM (GMT -6)   
See thats the thing...I don't have a physician. I am going into this completely alone & thats partly why I am so terrified & confused. But I feel like I have not done a darn thing for my Lyme so I need to stop putting it off & just go for it. I've been looking for a doctor for years & located to Portland, Oregon back in March with no luck still of finding a professional to help on "sliding scale". Unfortunately I cant afford doctor visits. I will be going to a naturopathic school clinic soon & hopefully they will be able to be by my side.

I dont know if MMS claims to cure Lyme. I haven't seen that yet. Jim Hubble who discovered it does understand how difficult it is to get rid of Lyme so I don't think he would claim a cure. Who knows. From what I understand it can't break the cyst where the spirochete hides in so you have to use it in conjunction with other stuff.

I have a far infrared sauna I was going to do with it. And vitamin C crystals to help support my heart area. But I still don't understand how to break the cysts. I am hoping maybe the MMS will just clear out a bunch of crap & give me clarity on exactly where the Lyme is at.

Im sorry it didn't help you out Bucci. Im thinking about starting a little blog to keep track of what happens while I do all this. Ill put a link on here if I do decide to.

Morti81
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   Posted 4/3/2012 6:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Kali,

Did you try the MMS? How did you get on?

KaliDhi
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   Posted 4/4/2012 7:12 PM (GMT -6)   
I began a treatment with Chinese & Japanese medicines. My doc said that the MMS can be used later in the treatment...that if I try it now it will be too much for my body & my system will shut down. So, its in cupboards waiting for the go-ahead. Probably wont be for quite awhile.

Thanks for checking!

Ill update this whenever I get into it.

Breaking Free
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   Posted 12/12/2013 3:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Kali
Have you done the MMS yet? I've just purchased this and would like to hear how things went with you.

Thanks

Traveler
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   Posted 12/12/2013 7:36 PM (GMT -6)   
In a cocoon,
Please read all of the cautions that everyone has already posted on this thread, and please, please read this:
www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/SafetyalertsforHumanMedicalProducts/ucm220756.htm

"The product, when used as directed, produces an industrial bleach that can cause serious harm to health. The product instructs consumers to mix the 28 percent sodium chlorite solution with an acid such as citrus juice. This mixture produces chlorine dioxide, a potent bleach used for stripping textiles and industrial water treatment. High oral doses of this bleach, such as those recommended in the labeling, can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and symptoms of severe dehydration."
Treatment for Lyme & Bart ended Dec. 2011 - no active symptoms
Treatment for Babesia ended Dec. 2012 - no active symptoms
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Had Lyme, Bart, Babs, RMSF, Ehrlichia, Myco, Anaplasmosis, EBV

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thrive
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   Posted 12/13/2013 9:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi there,

My naturopath put me on MMS. She muscle tested me for it first. I'll give treatment details here, but...

WARNING!!!! DO NOT USE IF YOU ARE NOT THINKING STRAIGHT!!
The naturopath warned that she only puts patients on it if they have their mental faculties with them. Otherwise, there is a danger that they will take it wrong and end up getting hurt instead of helped.

WARNING!!! DO NOT BREATH IN THE FUMES!!!
Deep breathing the fumes can damage the lungs permanently. Do not place your face directly over the activating MMS.


With these warnings, I still want to give details of my treatment with MMS, in case others try this without proper guidance. It is important to respect this medication. So, on that note, this is how my naturopath treated me with it:

First, I started drinking it. She had me start with 1 drop activated MMS (activate in a glass and NOT in plastic). Activate for 30 to 40 seconds and then add some water. The water stops the activation. Put this MMS and water mixture into a water bottle that closes air tight (the bottle can be plastic as the MMS is no longer still 'activating' and will not react with the plastic). Closing the bottle tight is important. If the activated MMS is open to air, the medicinal part will dissipate into the air, making the mixture useless.

Make sure there is AT LEAST one ounce of water per drop of MMS in the water bottle. The amount of water doesn't really matter, as long as you have at least one ounce per drop of MMS. I started with 16 ounces of water.

You want to drink 1/8 of this mixture per hour. i.e. Take a full 8 hours to drink it. I drew lines on the outside of my water bottle in order to break the total 16 ounces into 8 even doses (i.e 2 ounces per dose). Then, I drank down to a new line at the start of each hour.

Each day, I went up by 1 drop of activated MMS. At the end of 16 days, I had 16 drops mixed into 16 ounces of water.

Remember that you have to use AT LEAST one ounce of water per drop of MMS. So, on the 17th day, I had to increase the amount of water. I used 24 ounces of water and 17 drops. Again, you drink 1/8 every hour. So, I drank 3 ounces of this mixture every hour.

I continued adding 1 drop of activated MMS per day until I was up to a total of 24 ounces. Then, I stayed at this amount. The doctor told me not to go over 24 drops.

The total maximum amount of MMS to take depends on your body weight. If you are 100 pounds or over, than 24 drops per day is good. If you weigh less than this, than 24 drops is too much. There are charts that say how much you should take based on weight.

I was taking oral MMS for somewhere between 6 to 8 weeks. My doctor prescribed a coffee enema 3 times per week while doing this, in order to help support the liver in its job of cleansing toxins.

After this period, my doctor switched my medicines. I no longer took oral MMS, but switched to specific medicines to target bartonella and parasites. At this point, she also prescribed MMS enemas 3 times per week (no coffee enemas, just MMS). Again, I started with 1 drop of activated MMS in 1 cup of water. Do this twice in the one evening. i.e. use 1 activated drop of MMS plus 1 cup of water in an enema and hold for 8 to 10 minutes. Expel it. Then, repeat.

Each 'enema evening', increase the amount of MMS by 1 drop. i.e. the second time I did this, I used 2 drops per cup. Then 3 per cup, etc. until you reach a max of 12 drops per cup. I followed this protocol for about 5 weeks.

During this period, my major seizures stopped. I don't know if it was the MMS, the new bartonella and parasite treatments, EFT, or energy healing that stopped them. All of these were 'new' treatment protocols during this time period. But, the seizures stopped. I don't have anything negative to say about the MMS.

BUT BE CAREFUL. You want to respect this medication. The doctor warned that if you begin feeling sick, then reduce the number of drops you are using until you feel better and then slowly begin increasing again.

PS. The information on MMS says that it is not the same as chlorine bleach. I had no problems on it and am definitely doing better.

Thrive.

Justme4508
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   Posted 12/13/2013 10:31 PM (GMT -6)   
I have myself looked into MMS what I do caution is this.

If your body does not detox well, like many of us with Lyme don't we will get worse. I found this out the hard way on doxy, yes it was killing things, but it was also just dumping everything into my body, and I couldn't detox the die off, so I got much worse.

Also many of us have issues with chemicals, and putting them into our bodies can cause us more problems. I know a few people on the Fb site that have tried it, and it has caused them stomach issues.

So please do as much research as you can before you try anything new, we are already in bad shape, and I wouldn't want anyone to get worse.



justme

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   Posted 12/15/2013 8:34 PM (GMT -6)   
It's basically a water purifying bleach that somebody who knew nothing about medicine though would be a good treatment for diseases. It's obviously not safe.

Please don't be pulled in by outrageous claims made by somebody who is not a doctor. There's far too much of this going around in the Lyme world. It's the 21st century version of snake oil salesmen. Only now we have the ability to look for information about a product and make a rational decision about its safety and efficacy.

Just take a look at what the discoverer of MMS says on his website:

"For a long time I thought myself to be free of toxins and parasitic encumbrances, but upon starting the MMS regime I was very much mistaken – after consuming the 8th drop twice per day, I was overcome with nausea and other certain signs of detoxification."

Yeah, or maybe he had an upset stomach because he had just consumed bleach? I understand people are looking for a cure for this disease and would give anything, and try anything, to get well. I try to be open-minded about the treatments that are being discussed here even if they seems like they have nothing behind them (Rife machine anybody?), but I really don't want people hurting themselves with dangerous and unnecessary treatments. Antibiotics already do enough damage to the body, and they are considered relatively safe.

Breaking Free
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   Posted 12/16/2013 12:11 PM (GMT -6)   
I will not be taking this. I was informed that the item is shipped from Australia, as the US will not allow it to be produced/sold in US. I will be returning this. Yes, tough to figure out the real from the snake oil.

This will be returned.

Thanks everyone!

Traveler
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   Posted 12/16/2013 6:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Whew! I was concerned that you would try it and be someone that was hurt by it!

"Real" healing doesn't come with those kinds of warnings.
Treatment for Lyme & Bart ended Dec. 2011 - no active symptoms
Treatment for Babesia ended Dec. 2012 - no active symptoms
Healed and loving life!

Had Lyme, Bart, Babs, RMSF, Ehrlichia, Myco, Anaplasmosis, EBV

Questions about what I've posted or just have questions? Please email me!!! Click on blue envelope under my screen name.

Justme4508
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   Posted 12/16/2013 10:05 PM (GMT -6)   
I talked to a lady that personally tried it at first it seemed to be helping her, but then it really tore up her stomach and made her worse.

Now she is sicker than when she started it, and she was very careful about following the directions.


I am glad in a cocoon, you are returning it.

justme
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