test results...can anyone decipher? I don;t know who to believe anymore???

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dh22
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   Posted 8/14/2012 10:27 AM (GMT -6)   
I am sorry I keep posting...I have been tossed around from dr. to dr. like most of you...some say yes, some say no...I have been feeling good lately but i wanted to share my results to see if someone understands them....
 
IgG 93
IgG 66
IgG 58
IgG 45
IgG 41
IgG 39
IgG 30
IgG 28
IgG23
IgG 18........says absent for all of these...
 
IgG western blot - negative
 
IgM 41 - present, abnormal
IgM 39 - absent
IgM 23 - present, abnormal
 
IgM western blot - positive, abnormal
 
So...I have been told I have Lyme, I have been told it is a false positive, I have been told I have epstein Barr...I really don't know who to believe anymore...If anyone can help that would be great...
Debbie
 
 
 
 
 
 

borderlyme
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   Posted 8/14/2012 10:38 AM (GMT -6)   
IgM indicates current, active infection, while IgG is long-term antibodies. 41 is the one that most often comes up positive - it represents the tail of any kind of spirochetal illness. I asked a fibromyalgia specialist to run a lyme test once, and 41 was the only thing to come back positive - she kept saying "it means nothing," but...active infection probably always means something, right?

I can never get all these bands straight - though I think there's some information in the "new to lyme" thread if you haven't seen that already. There is one band that suposedly cross-reacts with things like HHV6 and Epstein barr - it could be 23 but I have literally no idea. There is a test, I think through igenex, to sort this out, though I've never had it done. According to my doctor's thinking, I have lyme and EBV, HHV6, and others.

Was this test done through igenex or something like labcorp?
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dh22
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   Posted 8/14/2012 10:42 AM (GMT -6)   
It was done by labcorp....I had mono 20 years ago and I was told i will always test positive for Epstein Barr...The infectious disease dr told me it was epstein barr and the Lyme was a false positive....so..that being said I still don't know who to believe...I went to a LLMD and he said i do have Lyme but how do I know who is right?

achievinggrace
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   Posted 8/14/2012 11:27 AM (GMT -6)   
One of the ways LLMD's confirm diagnosis is to start treatment. If you have a Herx reaction or start to feel better, that would tell you that you have Lyme.

Hope you get some clear answers soon.
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   Posted 8/14/2012 11:31 AM (GMT -6)   
Please don't believe the ID doc! Yes, you will always carry the antibodies for EBV, but it's quite common for those who have tick-borne infections to have one up to several active viruses as well. This is because the Lyme bacteria are capable of lowering the body's immune system, making it very easy to catch things like viruses and colds.

But EBV doesn't mimic Lyme disease. It does cause some serious health issues, and has quite a few similar symptoms to Lyme, but it doesn't mimic Lyme and you won't get a positive result for Lyme just because you have EBV.

Band 23 is highly specific to Lyme Disease - this you can count on. It's an outside surface protein of the Lyme bacteria and nothing else. You must have Lyme for this to be reactive (to show up as a positive on any test). Science is on your side with this information.

It would be like being only a little bit pregnant by that standard - which we all know isn't possible - a woman is either pregnant or not. The same applies here - you won't test positive to highly specific bands for Lyme if you don't have the infection.

I do hope we have been able to clear this up for you. Unfortunately, there are many that don't take the time to read the scientific data and end up giving out misleading information - including doctors.
Treating with Acupuncture, Traditional & Modern Chinese Medicine & Western Herbs. Before tx, I had all but 20 of the symptoms on the "Master Symptom List"

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borderlyme
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   Posted 8/14/2012 5:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Unfortunately none of us can tell you whether you have lyme or not, but do understand that it's quite common to have active EBV infections (they call them "opportunistic infections") along with lyme disease and other co-infections. There are also some anti-infective herbal treatments that are both antibacterial and antiviral, so the "good news" is that you can get proactive and take your best guess at what to treat and it might treat the other as well, if that makes sense. Other things like detoxing, improving diet, gentle exercise, de-stressing, etc. are also going to be good for any aspect of your health, so while it's frustrating in the meantime not to know what's wrong, I find it does help to shift your perspective to the fact that improving your health in general will improve whatever is actually causing your symptoms.

When in doubt, trust your gut.
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