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Lymer
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   Posted 10/5/2012 2:54 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi,

I have a few questions about the detox bath.

1) I am waiting for more test results before I can begin treatment. Would there be any benefits to starting these baths before starting antibiotics? I've read they help with herxing, but could they relieve some of my symptoms (painful joints, muscles, fatigue, the list goes on, as you all unfortunately know)?

2) Is there a (cheaper) alternative to Green Vibrance that works for anyone out there? :)

3) Is there anybody out there? (kidding, that Pink Floyd song is suddenly stuck in my head)

4) Is there a specific kind of hydrogen peroxide that works best for this process? I found the 35% food grade on amazon (ordering supplies now so to be prepared), but is the 3% better? Cheaper?

5) This one is a bit embarrassing, but I have to ask. As a female, are there any risks associated to "that area" by adding these products to a bath and soaking in it?

6) does anyone have a glass of wine while taking these baths? I think I already know the answer to that one, especially once the antibiotics come into play. Just wishful thinking I suppose!

Thanks for any advice you may have. Actually, a warm bath sounds amazing right now. I have an almost 17 month old son so long, hot baths are rare these days :)

TICKLEDPINK
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   Posted 10/5/2012 3:38 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Rori.
First of all, it is considered advisable to start detoxing before you start taking your antibiotics, it helps to open up the pathways which are essential to the healing process-footbaths are a good way to start, if you want to start gradually.

Secondly, most people use the 3% Hydrogen Peroxide( and no.there are no issues in the female area that I know of,I certainly haven't come across any concerns being expressed on the forum)

I drink Green Vibrance,there are alternatives but if you read the list of contents compared to other brands,GV comes out on top-I love the stuff and I can most definitely feel the benefits.

Lastly. I wouldn't advise drinking alcohol together with detoxing,it kind of defeats the object of the exercise,don't you think?As you pointed out alcohol and antibiotics are not a healthy combination.

Hope this helps

wellbeautifulspirit
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   Posted 10/5/2012 6:51 PM (GMT -6)   
I took a bath with hydrogen peroxide, it did not affect that area, but I found it smelled like hyrdorgen peroxide. as I chuckle as I type this, I must be sick, anyways, :) I did not like it.

but owell i take a bath in it sometimes

and then I soak my feet in that and the epsom salt daily.

Traveler
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   Posted 10/5/2012 7:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Hope2b, you should be combining the peroxide and the Epsom Salts into the same bath for the full effect. :-)

The peroxide does have the potential to lighten the color of hair, but I've not ever noticed any issues taking the full baths with that area either.
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Garfield48
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   Posted 10/5/2012 9:13 PM (GMT -6)   
As I tell my ND, my detox baths are my favorite part of Lyme Disease (the only part I like). I soak 3 x a week with Epsom salts, hydrogen peroxide a couple drops of lavender essential oil (we deserved to be spoiled) and usually grab a nice relaxing book (yes, I sometimes get the edges wet). Sometimes light a candle too.

Before Lyme, I probably soaked in the bath 3 x a year so this is quite a new thing for me to enjoy

I think the soaking is good for the "down there". You can always dry off with a blow dryer on low to help prevent yeasties. Come to think of it, I think I read somewhere that you can add baking soda to also help prevent yeasties.

Enjoy your baths Rori and best of luck with your healing.
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Using a mix of antibiotics, herbs, acupuncture, lyme diet and experimenting with hypnosis for positive thinking and green smoothies for increased nutrition.

raw runner
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   Posted 10/7/2012 7:14 AM (GMT -6)   
Trader Joe's carries 2 drinks- Red Drink hich is antioxidants and Green Drink which is, well, greens. I have used both and I find them to be quite great. Cheaper, as both are under 20 bucks for abotu a month's supply. I only use the Red Drink now as the Green is too...blech for my tastes :)
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Lymer
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   Posted 10/9/2012 12:38 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you for the responses!

Raw Runner - we just got a Trader Joe's where I live a couple weeks ago. I'll definitely try those drinks!

Garfield48 - thanks for the "down there" advice. I will be sure to add baking soda to prevent yeast issues. The last thing we need are more issues!!!

Traveler- thanks for your post. I'm blonde so no worries here on lighter hair, I'm not opposed to going lighter. Well, lighter for what's left of it anyway. My hair is pretty thin these days :-/

Hope2bhealthy- LOL!!! That made me giggle.

TickledPink- thanks for the advice. Well said about the wine. It would definitely defeat the purpose. I will go ahead and start the baths ASAP.

Are there any negative side effects associated with the detox baths if there are no antibiotics in the mix yet? I'm having some strange anxiety about the baths. Will I see anything as my pores open up? I'm sorry if its a weird question. Like I said, strange anxieties going on here!
Waiting for diagnosis - Rheumy thinks possible mild lupus and/or fibromyalgia

TICKLEDPINK
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   Posted 10/9/2012 2:48 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Rori,

You should probably start off slowly with your detox baths,maybe 10 minures at first and then gradually work your way up to 30 mins.

If you are afraid you could start with foot baths.

The sooner you commmence with detoxing the easier it's going to be to get rid of the die-off when you start taking your antibiotics.The whole point is to clear up your pathways and this will speed up your recovery.Your pores will open up but this is what you are trying to achieve.

The baths also help to soothe your aches and pains,you can herx from the baths,but believe me the benefits far out weigh the side effects( if indeed you experience any)

Take the plunge!

raw runner
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   Posted 10/9/2012 7:44 AM (GMT -6)   
I LOVE my detox baths!!! I can't imagine NOT doing them...even when I am feeling ok I still do them 2-3 times a week because I have had Lyme for so long I know there is a lot of crud I need to get rid of, lol.

As far as *seeing* anything...I have never heard of that from a bath...

And the wine...I find that I can no longer drink alcohol. I used to be a social drinker, glas of wine here and there but my last backslide a few years ago rendered me VERY sensitive to any alcohol so...I pretty much gave it up and have not tested it since. I have enough toxins in my body, don't need to add to it, yk? You are going to have to make that call on your own, I think... :)
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Traveler
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   Posted 10/9/2012 11:38 AM (GMT -6)   
For quite a while when I finally figured out how to take a detoxing full bath, I would see small amounts of milky white "something" coming from my skin. I would move the water around, thinking it was just the Epsom Salts or the peroxide working, but it would come back and it wasn't filled with bubbles like peroxide would be.

I haven't taken one of the soaking baths for a while, so I don't know if I would still see this or not. - I don't have a bathtub, so I took a livestock watering tub, cut a drainage hole big enough to fit a tub stopper, and I have a bath tub!! Although I do have to admit that I look like one of the cowboys sitting in the horse's watering trough with legs and arms hanging out, but it works!!!turn Giggle!!!! I just soaked 1/2 of me at a time! smhair Oh!! The visual!!!LOL!! Sorry for that!!! snicker, snicker! smilewinkgrin
Treating with Acupuncture, Traditional & Modern Chinese Medicine & Western Herbs. Before tx, I had all but 20 of the symptoms on the "Master Symptom List" for Lyme disease.

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TICKLEDPINK
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   Posted 10/9/2012 12:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh Traveler.LOL

The picture that you've conjured up in my head! Priceless-I can't stop s***ing.

Sort of Clalamity Jane ish,Do you bathe alone or with the "critters"

Tickledpink ,well and truly.
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Traveler
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   Posted 10/9/2012 12:55 PM (GMT -6)   
turn Do you really want to know if I invite the critters into the bath with me??? smilewinkgrinGiggle!!!

I get a giggle out of it every time I set up the "tub"!! I know how silly I must look, but it gets the job done!! LOL!!!

So if you are thinking Calmaity Jane-ish, I suppose my telling you that I have what used to be Strawberry-Blonde (now all white) hair and freckles would ruin that, huh? smilewinkgrin
Treating with Acupuncture, Traditional & Modern Chinese Medicine & Western Herbs. Before tx, I had all but 20 of the symptoms on the "Master Symptom List" for Lyme disease.

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TICKLEDPINK
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   Posted 10/9/2012 1:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Ruin it? Oh no,it makes the pictiure even more appealing! I can't stop laughing.

Here's a picture of me that could cause a chuckle

I live in an old Victorian house, the bathroom on the first floor is "quaint" or old fashioned.The bath tub is original,it one of those that has lion feet so the bath is quite high but that's not the problem.It's so long that I have to sit in sideways for fear of going under-true. I swear,that's how tiny I am.I could do 2 strokes of crawl in it.

Traveler
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   Posted 10/9/2012 1:14 PM (GMT -6)   
LOL LOL LOL!!! I weigh too much - thanks to these infections and my adrenals crashing recently to have any of those issues!! Giggle! But at 5 feet 1 inch (1.55 meters), I can certainly relate!! Lots of tubs are really quite large for someone that short!! LOL!

BTW - now I'm jealous of you having such a beautiful tub!! I would just love to have one of those old claw foot tubs!! My hubby is 6 feet 2 inches (1.85 meters) and we would have to special order a tub long enough for him!! LOL!!!
Treating with Acupuncture, Traditional & Modern Chinese Medicine & Western Herbs. Before tx, I had all but 20 of the symptoms on the "Master Symptom List" for Lyme disease.

"Absence of proof is not proof of absence" - Dr. Edwin Masters, great LLMD & researcher -RIP

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worriedinvt
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   Posted 10/9/2012 5:22 PM (GMT -6)   
I actually found the detox baths to sooth "that area" thanks to yeast irritation. There could be a bit of a burning at first but overall, I think it was helpful.

I didn't ease my way into at that much! I just sorta went for it. I have sensitive skin and it didn't really bother me. My biggest challenge was getting the water hot enough to last the entire bath without it being so hot I would want to pass out!

When I was doing them, which I should do them again, it was actually a great excuse for "me" time. I usually took a book, or a puzzle book, or my iphone with me (obviously, propped away from the tub :) ) to watch tv.

I did find the amount of product to be a bit over the top. And I simplified it to just the epsom salt and peroxide. Sometimes I bought the epsoms with lavendar in the them for the smell and sometimes I added some milk bath because it has a nice scent. But overall, just kept it simple. I used off-the-shelf peroxide which is pretty cheap though I never really looked into alternatives.

Good luck; hope the baths help :)

Traveler
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   Posted 10/10/2012 11:03 AM (GMT -6)   
I've always found for me that it's the simple approach that works the best! smilewinkgrin Even though I don't understand Chinese Medicine, even my practitioner keeps things pretty simple for my body.
Treating with Acupuncture, Traditional & Modern Chinese Medicine & Western Herbs. Before tx, I had all but 20 of the symptoms on the "Master Symptom List" for Lyme disease.

"Absence of proof is not proof of absence" - Dr. Edwin Masters, great LLMD & researcher -RIP

Questions about what I've posted or just have questions? Please email me!!! Click on the blue envelope under my screen name
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