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Mystery Illness
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   Posted 1/6/2013 1:11 PM (GMT -6)   
My legs are killing me. It seems like muscle pain. It feels like I ran a marathon and I'm having muscle spasms and cramping. It's my entire leg on both sides. Especially bad in my calves and butt.
Any suggestions? I've tried detox bath and hot shower, stretching, and I recently started the neuro antitox on top of all of the other things I do to detox.

gracelynn729
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   Posted 1/6/2013 1:27 PM (GMT -6)   
My Dr. gave me some hormone cream called adrenalcalm for anxiety but ive found if I rub it on sore muscles its works great! Doesnt do a dang thing for my anxiety though haha. Just a thought. Who knows it may just be me and I may just be crazy.......
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djl54
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   Posted 1/6/2013 1:32 PM (GMT -6)   
I suffer from serve leg n toe cramping/pain a lot. I use teasel, 595 mg of potassium n 600 mgs of magnesium. This helps me a lot.
I have had lyme disease for 9 yrs. Been through it all with it! Co infections: EBV, tested neg on Bart, but still feel it may be there too.
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MarieLS
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   Posted 1/6/2013 2:15 PM (GMT -6)   
I have them too, those pains. I describe them as severe growing pains (remember when you were a kid?).
 
I've almost eliminated all of the dairy out of my diet for the last 2 weeks, and I've been detoxing and drinking a lot of mineral water with lemon juice in it - and I have considerably less pain! I don't know if it's just by accident, or if I'm herxing less, but the leg pain is really better. It's still there, but not every day, and it's less severe.
 
 

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   Posted 1/6/2013 5:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Have you tried using a heating pad? I couldn't live without mine! Also be sure that you aren't getting any lemon, pickles or pickled foods in your diet - at least for now.

Also, how large of a dose of the Neuro Antitox did you use? This could be part of a herx from starting that at too high of a dose for you. I would suggest that you back your dose down for a few days to see if that helps. Also think back and see if there's anything else that got changed in the last couple of days.
Treating with Acupuncture, Traditional & Modern Chinese Medicine & Western Herbs. Before tx, I had all but 20 of the symptoms on the "Master Symptom List" for Lyme disease.

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Mystery Illness
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   Posted 1/6/2013 9:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks! I'll try those suggestions.

Trav-I started at the full Neuro Antitox dose. I wouldn't think that would cause herxing though? I am getting a cold right now so that may be why I'm flaring up. This just seems to be the cycle of my flares also - 3-5 good days followed by several bad days. But yes, it seems like my legs are hurting more than usual.

Deejavu
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   Posted 1/6/2013 9:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Mystery,
 
Sorry you are having leg pain.  It could be a flare up or having a cold.   The Neuro-Antitox usually makes herxes less severe, not bring them on because it binds up toxins so your body can poop or pee them out.  Maybe that's what your body is doing now, binding up those toxins. 
 
Are you pooping okay?  Sorry, don't mean to get personal.  You don't have to answer that! 
 
Hope you feel better,
Denise

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   Posted 1/7/2013 7:31 AM (GMT -6)   
All I know is that I herx from detoxing too fast .....still. I have to take things slowly, no matter what it is. And when combined with other stressors, watch out! A herx is almost definitely in my future!! LOL!

It was just a thought!
Treating with Acupuncture, Traditional & Modern Chinese Medicine & Western Herbs. Before tx, I had all but 20 of the symptoms on the "Master Symptom List" for Lyme disease.

"Absence of proof is not proof of absence" - Dr. Edwin Masters, great LLMD & researcher -RIP

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Mystery Illness
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   Posted 1/7/2013 8:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the info. Deejavu! Yes, pooping good, lol! Actually, it's kind-of a problem in a way. Ever since I got ill, I have many BMs a day, almost every time I go to the bathroom. It's not watery or diarrhea, just constant.

Trav-yes, our systems are so sensitive that it's definitely possible. Ugh!

Razzle
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   Posted 1/7/2013 12:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Magnesium helped me a lot with "Fibromyalgia" muscle pain.

For wandering pain associated with Lyme, here's what helps me:

Regular exercise - lower back stretching, hamstring stretches, leg lifts, walking, etc...be gentle, but do it regularly.

Sufficient water intake. We tend to need more while killing these bugs (whether using abx, herbs, or whatever).

Adequate sleep (quantity & quality).

Stinging Nettle Leaf - I take about a teaspoon of bulk nettle leaf powder daily, and it seems to really cut down on the leg pains and joint pains for me.

Adequate Lyme treatment...if I slack off on my Flagyl dose, the leg pains return.

Heating pad - absolutely feels wonderful. I actually also use a warming throw that covers all my legs and not just a small area, and then I put the heating pad on my lower back.

I've also had some good luck with homeopathic Causticum 30C pellets (dissolved under the tongue), if I take it as soon as I notice the leg pains starting. This remedy is for sciatica, but my Lyme related wandering leg pain responds to it anyway (though my leg pain does not respond to anything else for sciatica)...
-Razzle

Chronic Lyme, Bart., Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut dysmotility & non-specific inflammation, Lupus, Osteoporosis, etc.; G-Tube
Meds: Flagyl, Domperidone, Claritin, Andrographis & other herbs, homeopathy, supplements, etc.

kathleenta
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   Posted 1/8/2013 9:43 PM (GMT -6)   
I get that "marathon" feeling in the big muscles in the front and back of both legs and on the big muscles on the outside  of both arms. Boy, does it feel sore!   The only thing  I have found that helps is my trusty hot water bottle.  I have 3 (!) and sometimes I'm using them all at once when I'm laying down.  I don't know that the heat really does anything to the source of the pain, but the heat helps overshadow the pain.  Someone on another thread said the same thing about using cold.
 
I guess I could say one other thing that helps sometimes is for me to put a lot of pressure on the areas of pain- not always easy to do. My DH is getting very good at pushing/squeezing/applying pressure to those areas.
 
It's so frustrating isn't it?  You hang in there and I hope things get better for you soon, kathleenta

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   Posted 1/9/2013 10:41 AM (GMT -6)   
The source of the pain in the infection - it lives in and in some cases attacks the muscle, or it can be nerve pain. That's why we just do what we can to soothe those aches. Time in treatment is about the only thing that will make it stop.
Treating with Acupuncture, Traditional & Modern Chinese Medicine & Western Herbs. Before tx, I had all but 20 of the symptoms on the "Master Symptom List" for Lyme disease.

"Absence of proof is not proof of absence" - Dr. Edwin Masters, great LLMD & researcher -RIP

Questions about what I've posted or just have questions? Please email me!!! Click on the blue envelope under my screen name
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