Dental Implant and Lyme

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Konawind
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   Posted 2/8/2013 6:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Anyone with Lyme and Co-infections that has had problems with a dental implant? I really didnt want to have it done but I caved and I swear the implant is causing a flare and/or reaction. I feel like a massive herx on/in my face with extreme fatigue. Just wondered if anyone else has experienced this and if you had it removed and felt better??

Heathersdad
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   Posted 2/8/2013 8:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Konawind,

Do you live in Hawaii? I love Hawaii and have been there 6 times. I especially like Mauai and Kauai!

I am sorry to hear that you are having problems with your dental implant. Issues pertaining to the Oral Cavity can have a profound impact on your health, as you are finding out!

I do not have any experiences with dental implants myself. However, My daughter has had Oral Cavity issues in the past. Some of her immune incompetence was exacerbated by Autonomic Nervous System (ANS) issues centered in her oral cavity. She received Oral System Balancing (OSB) and CranioSacro Therapy to eliminate that imbalance.

It is well established fact that placing foreign materials into the body can cause immune issues, especially when done to the Oral Cavity. I have to ask this question. Were the materials used in the dental implant tested for compatibility with your body? If not, then I would surmise that your ANS has been compromised, and that you are experiencing a flare reaction. I would also surmise that if the implant was to be removed, that your flare symptoms would subside.

I am sensitive to the problem that has been created here. Now you will have a gap in your teeth. You have 3 choices of where to go from here: 1.) another implant 2.) bridge 3.) partial denture. Whatever you decide- the materials MUST be tested for compatibility, or else you may have the exact same problem.

I have found that most dentists are as ignorant about this kind of issue as most MD's are about Lyme and coinfections! There is a certain group of dentists that have gone beyond their dental school training, and have gained an understanding of these issues. These dentists are known as "Biological Dentists."

By the way, my dental bridge is about 40 years old now. I am faced with the same problem. Will I replace it with a bridge or dental implant. I would prefer the implant, but will it cause health issues for me? This would be an unknown unless I first have compatibility testing first.

I know of several people that have had health issues because of things done to their Oral Cavity. They were able to resolve the problem when the proper steps were taken to address it.

Don
We are older parents and Heather is our only child. She became so sick and debilitated that we thought that she was going to die, and everything looked so hopeless and bleak. However, God answered our prayers, and used the healing hands of Dr. J. at the Hansa Center to more than restore the health of our precious daughter. I have a moral obligation to help others that are likewise suffering!

Post Edited (Heathersdad) : 2/8/2013 7:40:16 PM (GMT-7)


Konawind
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   Posted 2/8/2013 9:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Don, thanks for your reply. No, We dont live in Hawaii however we love it there, too. I have been going there since childhood and have been over 35 times! (we need to move there!)

I am aware of biological dentists and use to go to one but the distance was too much. I am also aware of all the oral issues having the implant, crowns, etc. In the past I had all of my fillings replaced with non-mercury fillings and went through detox. I suspect that I will have to do that again now that I have this implant. I was reluctant about having it placed before being tested for a titanium allergy but went forward with it anyway. Its only been two weeks but I just know that its what is causing my flare. We'll see how it goes...I may have to have it removed...which would be too bad since it cost a small fortune and it went it with no problem and no swelling, no infection and no pain...nice and clean.

violets
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   Posted 2/9/2013 8:00 AM (GMT -6)   
I think most of us remember having a sliver in our finger when we were kids. Remember how amazing it was that it worked its way out on its own?

Well, I don't care what the dentists tell you...or the doctors tell you about titanium implants...it is a foreign body and your body does not like it there. If the body reacts to a sliver the way it does then think what it would do to a larger foreign body. I have seen major body reactions of the hardware in hip replacements and knee replacements for people. And maybe these people with the major reactions are "one of us" who have this disease and it is subacute until the hardware is put in. Obviously, the implants suppress the immune system enough OR compete with the "bug" for the immune system's attention and all hell breaks loose. In addition, maybe that is why some women get very ill after having breast implants. Again, my belief is that many people are ill with this disease but just in varying stages and implants can bring it to the surface.

And I know how you feel...it was not until I got my dental implant that my disease came out of the Pandora's box so to speak. I also know what you are talking about when you say you feel like you are having a herx on your face so to speak. I understand. One can "just tell" something is there that the body does not like.

I had mine removed. I had it removed about 3 months after I had it put in because I was sooo ill. Sorry...and you will have to do what is best for you but I have to tell you that when I first got very sick it was like 2 days after my dental implant. And I swore that it was the dental implant making me sick for months because of course the doctors could not find anything wrong with me.

I went ~ 1 year being very ill before finally being diagnosed and up until I had my dental implant removed I blamed my illness on that. BUT the implant was just the straw that broke the camel's back so to speak. But you know what you have (I didn't and blamed it on the dental implant) and maybe you can treat until your well again and the implant will not bother you. I realize the dentist will be resistant to remove it (mine was) and made me wait a few months to make sure. In addition, it is not easy going through the same surgery again of course. I am glad I had mine removed though.

Well and let's face it I may have been eventually diagnosed with MS or Lupus like so many other people if it weren't for that dental implant. So in a way that dental implant saved my life. I am kind of thankful that I did do it to bring out my disease so to speak. I am well now.

Good energy for your decision.

Deejavu
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   Posted 2/9/2013 8:30 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Konawind!
 
I would say give it time to heal and adjust before you decide anything.  I had bone grafting done for implants and I'm fine. 
 
Violets, I had my teeth knocked out when I was 17 years old from getting hit by a car when I was crossing a street, so what would you have done with no teeth?   Would you have gone toothless for your entire life?   I lost bone, my teeth, my chin, etc. and that was only in my head.
 
And what about people who lost their limbs?  Titanium has done wonders for so many people!   Violets, perhaps you should think twice and start doing your research and opening up your mind to other situations that perhaps have not crossed your mind.
 
 
Sorry, this is a sore point with me because I went through it and now at 56 years old I am still going through it once again because I need new implants so I can wear an implant supported denture because I gag on a regular denture.   And during one of my gum operations (I had many) I was suffering with lyme and it didn't make a difference.
 
That's all,
Denise
Well for 7 years without any symptoms ~ used Dr. Jernigan's protocol.

Our bodies are wise as they can heal themselves, all one has to do is nourish them properly. Thus it's about the Immune System mixed with Daily Detoxing, a dose of Positive Thinking, and Lowering Stress Levels.

I come back to help others for others helped me when I was sick. Pay it forward! :-)

Post Edited (Deejavu) : 2/9/2013 7:58:31 AM (GMT-7)


Traveler
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   Posted 2/9/2013 8:56 AM (GMT -6)   
We all have to do what is best for us. I had Lyme attack my teeth so badly that the dentists have all been amazed that my gums were so healthy with teeth that were just falling apart. So I had to get dentures - full upper and lower - at a very early age, but I had to do what I had to do.

We are all just trying to find what is right for ourselves. Exchanging ideas and experiences is what counts here!!
Treating with Acupuncture, Traditional & Modern Chinese Medicine & Western Herbs. Before tx, I had all but 20 of the symptoms on the "Master Symptom List" for Lyme disease.

"Absence of proof is not proof of absence" - Dr. Edwin Masters, great LLMD & researcher -RIP

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violets
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   Posted 2/9/2013 9:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Deejavu,

If you reread my post this is what I said to Konawind:
But you know what you have (I didn't and blamed it on the dental implant) and maybe you can treat until your well again and the implant will not bother you.

Of course all situations are individual. It is the individual that has to make the decision as to what is best for them. Traveler is right...exchanging ideas and experiences is what counts and will help the poster make better informed decisions. If only the poster heard from people who confirmed that the dental implant is the way to go and did not post what they truly felt and went through themselves... it is not very balanced now is it?

So sorry if it is a touchy subject for you and obviously the benefit outweighs the risk for you. Your decision.

In life that is what we all have to do ...weigh the benefits with the risk. One implant...and if it is causing the poster major trouble. May not be worth keeping it. That is far different then having many teeth missing and having to deal with that.
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