A Question About Red Streaks / Lines That Resemble Scratch Marks

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Tano
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   Posted 1/4/2014 3:17 PM (GMT -6)   
I am very impressed with the members here and all the knowledge and info !!! ... I try to do a lot of reading so I can understand what is the best course of treatment, and I feel that hearing FIRST HAND experiences and from those who have dealt with these issues to be some of the best info ...

I have a question regarding the red streaks / lines that appear on the skin - they resemble actual scratches, although they are slightly different than the usual scratch ...

These are usually an indication of a bartonella infection, correct ?

Are these red lines due to a hyper-sensitivity in the skin, or are they actual bacterial toxins, or both ? ....

I know that when I have initiated certain therapies - Samento, rifampin, colloidal silver, and even the Pekana detox remedies, I have seen these red marks appear ...... They have even appeared as I have sat in the IR Sauna ...

All this sounds good, right ??? Taking certain remedies that bring these lines out ... But the trouble is that the symptoms get so unbearable that I need to take a break ....

I suppose I would like to hear anyone's experiences with red streaky lines, and how bad the symtoms got before you backed off ...

I was always the last person to leave a basketball or tennis court - I was always saying "C'mon, 10 more minutes" when everyone else was stopping :)

So this inability to tolerate treatment is very unlike me - it actually has taken me a long time just to work up the courage to post here and admit that treatment is difficult ...

Thanks everyone !!!

teragram
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   Posted 1/4/2014 3:29 PM (GMT -6)   
I have red streaks that look like scratch marks that come and go. They itch like crazy. Do yours itch? I assumed mine were simply hives.

Margaret
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Tano
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   Posted 1/4/2014 7:11 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Margaret, thanks for the reply -

My red lines/scratch marks do not itch ...

Are you aware of any possible exposure you might have had to mold ???

The only other thing I have heard the scratch marks link to was possible mold exposure ..

teragram
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   Posted 1/4/2014 7:22 PM (GMT -6)   
I have been wondering about that a lot, and I'm afraid to test my house!!!

Some guys who were helping me clean my dryer broke my washer once, and it leaked. I've also seen what looked like black mold in the bathroom behind the wallpaper (needless to say, I tore off all the wallpaper, cleaned the wall, and had it painted).

Still, it makes me wonder. It's more effort to put into things though! :(

Margaret
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Synthroid, Cymbalta, OTC allergy, Malarone, Hydroxychloriquine, Acyclovir prn, Imitrex prn, Gabapentin, Temazepam, Lamotrigine, Bystolic, Singulair, IVIG,///Colostrum, Glutamine, Multis, Calcium, D3, B vits, Probiotics, AcetylLCarnitine, Omegas, Iro

Tano
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   Posted 1/5/2014 1:12 AM (GMT -6)   
Margaret, I know what ya mean !!!

Two years ago, my chimney was leaking into the attic ( a finished attic ) - the house is from the 1850s, and I was paranoid when I saw the water and the stains .... I bought one of those white tyvek haz-mat suits and a respirator mask and tore the entire wood ceiling apart ( the ceiling was slanted )

I was certain I would find a nightmare of mold, and be able to say "THAT'S WHAT IS CAUSING MY PROBLEMS" .... but there was nothing to speak of, just a little darkening of the pink insulation ..

I really think that bartonella is the main problem w/ the red lines .... maybe being exposed to mold triggers a reaction that somehow interacts with these bacteria, but I had been around mold years and years ago and was never effected ...

Have you ever taken rifampin ???

Do you have jaw/ear/neck issues or any swollen lymph nodes or lumps near your jaw, ear or neck ?

ToddPaul
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   Posted 1/5/2014 8:49 AM (GMT -6)   
I've seen the streak-mark rashes a number of times and they don't itch me either though I am itchy in other places like my chest and neck and also stomach where I get these itchy little bumps. For me the streaks are always on my back and come out during treatment (Rifampin and now with just herbs). It's Bart for sure and can't explain why we get the red lines. I do have some inner ear pain but no lumps or swollen glands.

Tano
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   Posted 1/5/2014 2:29 PM (GMT -6)   
ToddPaul, thanks for the info ... your situation sounds very similar to mine ...

What herbs that you take bring out the lines ??

Also, has it become difficult to tolerate any type of treatment or remedy ?

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   Posted 1/5/2014 2:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Tano,
This statement....

"All this sounds good, right ??? Taking certain remedies that bring these lines out ... But the trouble is that the symptoms get so unbearable that I need to take a break ...."

....would indicate that your body is not able to keep up with the toxins that are being produced. You can lower your dose to help ease this, but I would also really encourage you to incorporate more detoxing strategies into your routines.
Treatment for Lyme & Bart ended Dec. 2011 - no active symptoms
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ToddPaul
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   Posted 1/5/2014 3:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Do you get these tiny itchy bumps as well? I've had those for over a dozen years. My first tick bite was about 20 years ago and then I was bit again in 2011.

I honestly can't tell you which herbs are bringing out the streaks because I'm on a protocol that involves about 15-20 different ones called the Synergy Protocol. From day one the protocol has ramped up the rashes and bumps and general itchiness.

I seem to tolerate most treatments pretty well but I'm not as sick as most on here. Rifampin was easy for me but the one thing I couldn't tolerate was monolaurin. I tried it a few times and the chest and back pain was unbearable. It hit my muscles something awful.

Tano
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   Posted 1/5/2014 6:55 PM (GMT -6)   
I do get the itchy bumps, but only on occasion - when I do, the bumps usually appear directly over a visible/larger vein ...

It just seems to me that these toxins/infections create a super sensitive - "on red alert" - state in the immune system --- almost as if our bodies have become allergic to the toxins ...

It is as if the immune system is attacking, but not killing -

Probably the best thing we can do is support the immune system - both in its ability to defend and to detox and flow properly

Any red mark is probably the body's way of saying GET THIS **** OUTTA HERE ASAP

lol

Traveler
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   Posted 1/6/2014 2:22 PM (GMT -6)   
LOL!!

Yeppers! We do need to support the immune system, because if it had been working properly, we wouldn't have had these infections to begin with!! So we must build up the immune system among other things.
Treatment for Lyme & Bart ended Dec. 2011 - no active symptoms
Treatment for Babesia ended Dec. 2012 - no active symptoms
Healed and loving life!

Had Lyme, Bart, Babs, RMSF, Ehrlichia, Myco, Anaplasmosis, EBV

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Kelliedee
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   Posted 1/25/2016 8:08 AM (GMT -6)   
I have a rash that looks like red lines that resemble a person who has been flogged. The rash is on my back (primarily), but spreading! After 47 years on planet earth I learned tonight that I should NEVER eat or even handle Shiitake Mushrooms! I ate one and this rash broke out three days later! It's a Shiitake Toxic reaction not an allergy! I was so scared, I have to say I'm relieved to finally know what is going on... Wanted to share with you!

It affects about 2 % of the population and is from eating raw or undercooked Shiitake Mushrooms! Now why can't i be this lucky when playing the "Power Ball"?

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   Posted 1/25/2016 11:46 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Kelliedee,
Welcome to our community! I'm so glad you found us.

Actually, what we are talking about is not an allergy at all, but a rash from a specific infection that can be dangerous to some if it is not treated, and will lead to lots of health issues down the road even for someone that is healthy.

We are talking about Bartonellosis, or as we call it here, Bart or Bartonella. As I said, this is not an allergic reaction, but a skin reaction to the infection that is ongoing in the body.

Shiitake mushrooms actually increase the immune function, so they can help fight infections like Bartonella and Lyme disease .

"The various Bartonella species appear to be adapted to specific hosts. Cats are the main reservoir for B. henselae, which causes approximately 20,000 reported cases of cat scratch disease per year in the United States. (As with many reportable diseases, however, the true incidence of CSD is underreported and generally believed to be considerably higher.) Bartonella are also found in numerous arthropods, including fleas (a known vector of CSD), biting flies, lice and ticks."

columbia-lyme.org/patients/tbd_bartonella.html

Sorry to say that you have a higher chance of having Bartonella than having the Shiitake Toxic reaction.

I hope you are okay now though.
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