Thinking about the St George Klinik in Germany

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Katie95
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   Posted 10/19/2016 10:04 PM (GMT -6)   
I really can't find any stories other than extremely successful ones... Too good to be true? Or the be all end all? From what I understand they do the hyperthermia to kill the Lyme and to get it out of the cyst form and you fast the day before to starve all cells of glucose which somehow gives the antibiotics better access to infected cells as well?

Has anybody heard anything bad about this clinic? I know it is expensive but it seems as if it is worth it...

AzerilA
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   Posted 10/19/2016 10:25 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm too poor to know anything about an expensive clinic. Wish I could help though I'll tag along to learn more.

jennydancingfish
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   Posted 10/19/2016 11:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Lol AzerilA! Me too.
Yolanda hadid tweeted to someone else the other day that its not a cure there. And I think ally hilfigger went there maybe check her memoir
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Switched to this route after very bad herxing on rifampin
Diagnosed with Bartonella and Lyme. Twin has Bartonella and Mycoplasma and Lyme.
Twin improving on rifampin, zithromax, and tinidazole. Anger, rage, explosivity, emotional volatility, head and bone squeezing, sense of overheatedness all improved.

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   Posted 10/19/2016 11:48 PM (GMT -6)   
I would be too scared to have my body temperature heated up like that...is it not risky?
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Katie95
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   Posted 10/20/2016 12:03 AM (GMT -6)   
I have yet to look more into the safety behind it... But I feel like something as intense as that would have been shut down by now if it was unsafe?
Diagnosed with Borrelia Oct 2016 through iSpot Lyme blood test, suspect Bartonella as well.

Katie95
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   Posted 10/20/2016 12:06 AM (GMT -6)   
I just saw her tweet and she does say that it is a great treatment even though it is not a cure. I really hope that there is some headway with research and new treatments to come, you'd think that there has to be something being worked on with all of the exposure Lyme is getting from celebrities and not to mention (or so I would imagine) the money that these celebrities are probably donating to research.
Diagnosed with Borrelia Oct 2016 through iSpot Lyme blood test, suspect Bartonella as well.

ArtAngel
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   Posted 10/20/2016 12:34 AM (GMT -6)   
I am interested in it too. I asked my German friend (she also has lyme) she says she has heard stories of americans travelling there and not getting at all better. She hasn't ever thought of going.
The stories in the Australian media are pretty strong...one man in his 70's with a cure of prostrate cancer,http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/northern-beaches/german-clinic-offer-cure-for-desperate-australians-struck-down-with-lyme-disease/news-story/613de84edbb83b502e422ed78e9e30fd
Don't know if you can use my link but it sounds good.

Katie95
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   Posted 10/20/2016 12:57 AM (GMT -6)   
The link doesn't work but I have seen a couple of bad reviews from cancer patients. Still yet to find a bad one for lyme though
Diagnosed with Borrelia Oct 2016 through iSpot Lyme blood test, suspect Bartonella as well.

Katie95
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   Posted 10/20/2016 12:59 AM (GMT -6)   
I'd like to look into the paracelesus clinic as well
Diagnosed with Borrelia Oct 2016 through iSpot Lyme blood test, suspect Bartonella as well.

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   Posted 10/20/2016 7:01 AM (GMT -6)   
I did the hyperthermia is safe but they do watch you very closely. I did this at Paracelsus.
based off my experience with Dr Rau I think he would tell you that its not one type of treatment that regains your health but all the different treatments working together to strengthen your body.
You can find his lectures on youtube and he speaks about his process. I can tell you he check dental and gut bacteria on every single patient-his clinic has 5 biological dds.

Post Edited (magoo2) : 10/21/2016 4:26:52 PM (GMT-6)


blueberrymuffin
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   Posted 10/21/2016 2:46 PM (GMT -6)   
how much is the treatment in this clinic?

magoo2
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   Posted 10/21/2016 4:32 PM (GMT -6)   
I went for two week a couple years ago and I kind of remember thinking all in it was $20,000.Then I went a couple times for a week. You
can call and ask or email them. Its not cheap if you are expecting a miracle I can tell you the miracles all
come from the dentist at the clinic. Everything else takes time-I do like Raus approach-you can his lectures on youtube.
The place is beautiful and their little hotel is a delight to stays in-tell them its your birthday and the owner will make you a cake that's out of this world. If money and time was no object I would go there for three months and be done with this

AK
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   Posted 10/21/2016 4:56 PM (GMT -6)   
My friend went to Paracelsus for three weeks in April and had stunning results. She felt really well for a month or so then she started to backslide. She then went back for another three weeks this fall and has yet to feel better. Her first three week stint cost more than $35K. The second might have been less expensive since there was less initial testing. IT sounds like they have lots of cool treatments. THere are many lyme patients there and she said that many come back many times a year.....

They probably do some really great health promoting treatments but by no means a cure
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2001 off abx, many alternatives, good care, good diet,
played hockey and skied on weekends, raised kids, maintained huge gardens, lived life, didn't think about lyme
June 2016 shoved into relapse hell.

Post Edited (AK) : 10/21/2016 6:29:20 PM (GMT-6)


robby vieira
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   Posted 10/21/2016 6:25 PM (GMT -6)   
They opened infusio in LA. The same concept but a little different.... and I only here great stories about them.
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