Lyme triggered by vaccine

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Steph1234567
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   Posted 3/15/2017 10:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Anyone else had strange neuro symptoms and other things happen after a vaccine ? In my case was flu shot and now have diagnosis of Lyme disease

abhi
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   Posted 3/15/2017 10:18 PM (GMT -6)   
before having a fever almost 15 month ago i was exterme fine.then doctor give me flu shot.fever degrade immediately but neurological sympotams dizziness,brain fog,paltipation remain constant.share your sympotams list might it would helpful to me because you told that you have neuro sympotams

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   Posted 3/15/2017 10:53 PM (GMT -6)   
same here , after a flu shot in 2013 started having odd flu like symptoms. the immune system got a bit challenged and woke up .... to find out it was silently invaded by microscopic worms sad

but i had some kind of symptom long time before that. astma, heart palps, air hunger, thought it was allergy....

4m later a stupid dr gave me steriods for my "allergy" and my full blown disease stormed through the door. wasnt able to eat food, had terrible stomach pains (bart induced gastritis). ofc they had no idea whats wrong....

then they said well lets give u h-pylori treatment. and amoxicillin + clarithromycin gave me my first herx, with first time peripheral neuro, got really terrified. it seems quite funny now, but it wasnt....

Girlie
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   Posted 3/16/2017 12:07 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Steph, welcome to our community!

The flu shot may have suppressed your immune system - allowing the lyme bacteria to flourish.

Did you have any symptoms of lyme disease prior to the flu shot?

Do you have a LLMD to treat you?

We encourage all new members to read through the thread at the top of the page titled: "new to Lyme?..Start Here!" It's packed full of useful information.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Traveler
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   Posted 3/16/2017 5:51 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Steph,
Welcome to our community! I'm so glad you found us.

Ad Girlie said, if you haven't ​yet​, it would be helpful for you to start with reading through the thread at the top of the forum titled,"New to Lyme?...Start here!!", as it is packed full of important information, symptom lists, helpful links and pdf's, how to detox when one has these infections, information on probiotics and much more.

​ And, here's another good place to find helpful detoxing routines: ​http://www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html​

I have had some pretty bad reactions to a flu shot. I got one twice, and have never had another one, as it makes all my symptoms worse, particularly the fluish feeling and pain levels.

If you need help in finding a LLMD, please do let us know!!
Herb only treatment for Lyme & Bart ended 12/11 - no active symptoms for 2 yrs -Herb only treatment for Babesia ended 12/12
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Had Lyme, Bart, Babs, RMSF, Ehrlichia, Myco, Anaplasmosis, EBV
New Lyme case 8/2014 - Healed 1/31/15 - unknowingly had Asymptomatic Babs and Asymptomatic Bart, being treated now though (2/2016)

k07
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   Posted 3/16/2017 6:00 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm reading the book Lyme Madness right now and the author's son had mild symptoms then got flu shot and it all went downhill. Seems pretty common. I had mild symptoms for about 5 years but the neuro symptoms came on after a couple stressful events.

Traveler
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   Posted 3/16/2017 6:04 AM (GMT -6)   
wink My story is one that is included in that book!! Wonderful lady that had the courage to stand up for those with Lyme!
Herb only treatment for Lyme & Bart ended 12/11 - no active symptoms for 2 yrs -Herb only treatment for Babesia ended 12/12
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Had Lyme, Bart, Babs, RMSF, Ehrlichia, Myco, Anaplasmosis, EBV
New Lyme case 8/2014 - Healed 1/31/15 - unknowingly had Asymptomatic Babs and Asymptomatic Bart, being treated now though (2/2016)

doors12
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   Posted 3/16/2017 11:04 AM (GMT -6)   
My health began to seriously decline after I received (another) MMR vaccine that was required by the college I was applying to.

k07
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   Posted 3/16/2017 12:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Traveler said...
wink My story is one that is included in that book!! Wonderful lady that had the courage to stand up for those with Lyme!


No way! I'll be looking for it!

Traveler
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   Posted 3/16/2017 12:17 PM (GMT -6)   
LOL! Actually, yes. It's a highly condensed version, as it's hard to put 40 years into only 1,000 words, but it's in there. I was kind of surprised to find out that she really used it!
Herb only treatment for Lyme & Bart ended 12/11 - no active symptoms for 2 yrs -Herb only treatment for Babesia ended 12/12
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Had Lyme, Bart, Babs, RMSF, Ehrlichia, Myco, Anaplasmosis, EBV
New Lyme case 8/2014 - Healed 1/31/15 - unknowingly had Asymptomatic Babs and Asymptomatic Bart, being treated now though (2/2016)

Kat1000
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   Posted 3/16/2017 12:21 PM (GMT -6)   
I had a flu and pneumonia vaccine late Fall 2015. Before that I felt really good. I had a horrible reaction to vaccines - fever, arm swelled and was red and hot. I ended up needing an antibiotic.

Before these vaccines, I went hiking in the mountains without any problem. 6 months later I was hiking again and had altitude sickness, which I've never had before.

I don't remember being bit, but I do remember those few days after the vaccines, and the soreness and other symptoms have increased since then.
Symptoms started early summer 2016
Sept 2016 - internist referred to endocrinologist
Oct/Nov - endo increased thryoid med and Vit D; pos for MTHR
Positive Igenix IgG Jan 2017 (internist ordered at my request)
Rheumatologist said no connective tissue disease Jan 2017
Skipped recommendation to see neurologist
LLMD first visit March 2017 - symptoms for borrelia, bart, babs

Village Crazy Lady
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   Posted 3/16/2017 12:42 PM (GMT -6)   
This is a really interesting thought. Trying to wrap my brain around it and the possible contribution to pushing me over the edge.

The last flu shot I got was in 2014 at physical therapy on a severely broken foot. I thought the foot was a major part of a trauma but maybe the 'free' flu shot was part of the mix?
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Girlie
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   Posted 3/16/2017 12:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, could be, VCL
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

julymorning
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   Posted 3/16/2017 12:56 PM (GMT -6)   
This is why I had a pretty bad reaction to my one and only flu shot....but it's been well over 18-19 years ago or more. I've refused them since.

I did get a Pneumonia shot, don't think I had a reaction, but now that I'm in full relapse, I will be refusing them as well.

Even though with advanced COPD, getting pneumonia could do some serious harm. It's not good either way.
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Fibro diagnosed '85 Lyme (false?)positive '92,Osteoporosis, COPD, Hypertension, degen. disc disease, RMSF pos. Spring 2015, CHF, osteoarthritis. No LLMD. Used Doxy, Zithro and Flagyl since June '15, mono each time. Useless. Current treatment JK, Milk Thistle, kudzu for head fullness/pressure, avena sativa for nerves. Bragg's ACV, lemon water, Herbal de-tox tea.

mpost
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   Posted 3/16/2017 3:14 PM (GMT -6)   
in case there are ppl reading this forum and thinking "oh there again the lyme community finds lyme everyhere, now it's vaccines, with no evidence"

/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4266455/

BJD55
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   Posted 3/16/2017 3:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Last May, I cut my hand on a rusty drain pipe while working on the house. I got a tetanus shot a few days later. I ached all over for a couple of weeks after. about a month later, shingles. 2 months after shingles I melted down with debilitating fatigue. Only now is the fatigue abating. Shingles pain was extremely stressful for 2 months. I also had some other unusual external life stressors during the summer. I suspect I may have been infected for years but my immune system suppressed the 3b's enough so that only relatively minor symptoms appeared intermittently. I suspect that the tetanus shot, shingles, and life stressors, all at about the same time, created the perfect storm that tipped me over the edge. No way to know for sure but there are plenty of stories about vaccinations seriously messing people up..... . In spite if the "research" that says there's no "evidence" to support such claims.

julymorning
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   Posted 3/16/2017 3:21 PM (GMT -6)   
mpost said...
in case there are ppl reading this forum and thinking "oh there again the lyme community finds lyme everyhere, now it's vaccines, with no evidence"

/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4266455/



I don't think we aren't saying the vaccines cause it directly, we're saying it will tie up our immune function which then opens the window for the Lyme to rear it's ugly head, whether we acquired it before or at the time of, vaccination.

Girlie
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   Posted 3/16/2017 3:26 PM (GMT -6)   
"The figures available in France thus show a definite statistical signal in favor of a causal link between the HB vaccine event and the apparition of MS with a maximum correlation in the 2 years following immunization."


...and is the MS really lyme? makes sense.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

joee
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   Posted 3/16/2017 3:28 PM (GMT -6)   
I started with some symptoms of lyme but had no idea what was wrong. Then a few months later I got many vaccines for nursing school. Tetanus, flu, hepatitis, gosh I think there was more vaccines than my lyme brain will allow me to remember. All the boosters I got at one time.

What I do remember was symptoms intensified and then the nursing school called me in and told me my mmr titer was on the border line and I needed a booster. Got that booster and the next day my body was in full turmoil. I have never recovered.

I kept thinking back then that I had some kind of autoimmune disease from the shots and esp the mmr vaccine. Years I thought that but never had proof.

Then 8 years later I got diagnosed with lyme and my llmd tells me never to get another vaccine again. Very dangerous for lyme patients he told me.

The only vaccines he said I should ever receive are tetanus (alone not with diptheria-good luck finding that) and only if I need it not as a preventative. And rabies if I got bit or scratched by a suspicious animal.

Jasperilla
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   Posted 3/16/2017 3:29 PM (GMT -6)   
I absolutely believe that a vaccine suppressed my immune system and contributed to activating my latent Lyme infection. I'd had mild symptoms of Lyme for years before I got really sick with it, but just wrote them off as getting older or the oddities of the human body. We also know I've had Lyme for a long time, since my kids have congenital Lyme.

4 years ago, I was exposed to Hepatitis A and my PCP suggested I get the vaccine. I got the first vaccine and a couple months later got the stomach flu over one weekend. By Sunday night I was feeling like I was over the worst of the stomach flu and would be feeling mostly normal by Monday. However, Monday I woke up completely unable to function with full-blown Lyme symptoms. Of course, it took another 18 months to get diagnosed, but I 100% believe that that vaccine suppressed my immune system enough to let Lyme take hold while I was further immunocompromised with the stomach flu.

I thought I was the only one who thought a vaccine triggered it!

B99
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   Posted 3/16/2017 3:34 PM (GMT -6)   
mpost, Hep B vaccine leading to MS, that's a very disturbing article.

mpost
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   Posted 3/16/2017 4:16 PM (GMT -6)   
B99 said...
mpost, Hep B vaccine leading to MS, that's a very disturbing article.


i know not everyone here had it done, but i have, 3 years before the lyme show started. all 3 shots , with the last one for "long lasting immunity".

so even if this maybe has not caused my problems, i can always open that statistical study... and get angry just at the thought there may be a link....

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   Posted 3/16/2017 4:31 PM (GMT -6)   
I had weird head symptoms (prickly) after a tetanus shot. Then I was panicky. I just felt different. My nutritionist found an article where it stated that people with thyroid issues (e.g. Hashimotos) should not get a tetanus shot. I was undiagnosed with any thyroid issues at that time. I believe that started this whole downward spiral. It just took awhile to catch up.
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joee
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   Posted 3/16/2017 5:54 PM (GMT -6)   
krimpet,

Whaaaat??? I have hashimotos. My labs are all normal but I have the hashimoto antibodies so my endo says I am positive for hashi's and just waiting for the thyroid to completely go haywire. I also only have half a thyroid from nodules and the remaining side has 7 nodules. does this mean I should not get a tetanus shot even if I say get a cut with a rusty instrument?

My goodness, I guess I should research that for the future and possibly a link to my past.

I am so suspicious of vaccines since getting them back in 2009 and getting sick. This posting about vaccines makes me so relieved I am not the only one that had this happen to me. Not that I want anyone to suffer, but knowing I am not crazy is sort of comforting. ha

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   Posted 3/16/2017 7:38 PM (GMT -6)   
My so-called mystery illness began about shortly after re-doing all of the childhood vaccinations and added the hepb series. I was advised by my MD(pcp) that itd be 'good' to protect myself since I was moving overseas.

My 1st symtoms were neurological(bizarre sensations inside head nd vertigo), and severe upper left stomach pain w/the once monthly severe, feel like im dying type of headache!

But I was told it was all caused by the move overseas that resulted in panic attacks and anxiety!!! Id tried to convince them that I was totally pumped aka excited and ready for the overseas excursion and that could NOT be the cause-but noone listened.

It was THE VACCINES- I have NO doubt!

2 things happen from vaccines...
1) adjutives such as heavy metals that create a positive environment for the 'bugs' to survive. Adjutives and then there's the 5% of vaccines(per Dr. Garth Nicholsen)that are contaminated during manufacture.
2) the immune system focuses on creating antibodies for whatever the vaccine was;thus any dormant infections become active!

My 1st course of treatment, BEFORE going after the 'bugs' was chelating out the toxins-toxins such as heavy metals that bind w/the 'bugs'....

And here I am 10 years later after that move overseas, and after a few years treating Lyme and co's....but Am still dealing with the havoc wreaked upon my body all because of those dang vaccines!!!
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