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BeKindPls
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   Posted 4/8/2017 3:18 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi friends,

I have come down with a nasty cold, possible strep, but I'm thinking it's just a viral cold that needs to run its course. I was planning on starting herbal treatment for Lyme and Bart but should I hold off until I've recovered from this cold? I feel extra twitchy right now, not sure if the Lyme and Bart are more active now and I should try to hit them or if that would make things worse. Thoughts? Thanks for reading smile

Purrrsiankitty
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   Posted 4/8/2017 6:12 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi BeKind!

I think is you feel strong enough, you could start. Make sure you continue to detox well.

Some of what you are taking may be antiviral and help with your recovery. Reminder to go slow and pay attention to what your feeling in the way of symptoms.

Hugs! Feel better soon!

Post Edited (Purrrsiankitty) : 4/8/2017 6:32:22 AM (GMT-6)


Traveler
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   Posted 4/8/2017 8:42 AM (GMT -6)   
I would agree with Purrrsiankitty - start on very low doses of the immune boosters. You may herx, but it's what will also help you get past the cold/virus.

What protocol were you going to start? We can give suggestions of which product and what dose to start on if we know that.
Herb only treatment for Lyme & Bart ended 12/11 - no active symptoms for 2 yrs -Herb only treatment for Babesia ended 12/12
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Had Lyme, Bart, Babs, RMSF, Ehrlichia, Myco, Anaplasmosis, EBV
New Lyme case 8/2014 - Healed 1/31/15 - unknowingly had Asymptomatic Babs and Asymptomatic Bart, being treated now though (2/2016)

BeKindPls
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   Posted 4/8/2017 4:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks, Purrrsiankitty and Traveler,

I was going to start an herbal protocol of banderol, teasel, sida acuta, japanese knotweed, houttunyia, and possibly cat's claw. I tested out the banderol and teasel last week, no reaction, so I was going to slowly add the others.

I don't think I am taking any immune boosters (unless the herbs are considered the immune boosters - I'm learning as I go here)! Should these be part of my plan? Any suggestions? Thanks very much!

PeteZa
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   Posted 4/8/2017 4:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Do not add the others all at once, please.

One at a time and get it up to a decent dose of testing. You want to make sure you can take it.

Slowly add in each new herb at a low rate and very slowly move up.

The slower you move up the less herxing MAYBE. I went up really slow, one herb at a time and never herxed. My husband has not herxed either.

BUT@!!!! We are huge detoxers in our home. Lemon water is a staple, lots of vinegar, fermented foods, many vegetables, dry brushing (actually we use loofahs more than the dry brush), and as organic as we possible can afford.

We also do supplements. He more than me now because I have got my immune system back up to functioning.
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goshawk
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   Posted 4/8/2017 5:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, Some of the immune ones would be Cordyceps, Withania somnifera(Ashwagandha), Eleuthro, Glycyrrhiza also I believe Buhner lists the cats claw(Uncaria tomenstosa too.

Do you have Buhner's book? it would be good to have , he has a chapter called"The Materia Medica" and you can look up each herb and it explains any interactions , dosages and possible known side effects.

It's also very interesting to read smile

Take care, Jo

BeKindPls
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   Posted 4/8/2017 6:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks PeteZa and Jo.

PeteZa - Thank you for the advice. I will definitely go slow. You sound like you have a really healthy plan in place, that's great. Would you mind sharing which supplements you take?

Jo - I don't own any of Buhner's books but I have read a lot of him and his protocols online. I may just purchase it, though. I'd like to have knowledge of the herbs and interactions at my fingertips. Do you know the title of this book? I think he has a few? Thanks for the tip!

Be well smile

julymorning
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   Posted 4/8/2017 7:14 PM (GMT -6)   
BeKindPls said...
Thanks PeteZa and Jo.

PeteZa - Thank you for the advice. I will definitely go slow. You sound like you have a really healthy plan in place, that's great. Would you mind sharing which supplements you take?

Jo - I don't own any of Buhner's books but I have read a lot of him and his protocols online. I may just purchase it, though. I'd like to have knowledge of the herbs and interactions at my fingertips. Do you know the title of this book? I think he has a few? Thanks for the tip!

Be well smile


I'd like to recommend his book "Healing Lyme 2nd edition".

It has his updated core protocol, and an extensive section on Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, information that is hard to find elsewhere, as well as other co-infections. His method of describing the backgrounds and dosages of herbs is great.


I got it on Amazon for $15.

BeKindPls
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   Posted 4/8/2017 7:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks, julymorning! Is Bartonella in there? I'm going to search Amazon. Thanks for the help.

Traveler
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   Posted 4/9/2017 11:25 AM (GMT -6)   
No, Bartonella is a different book, as is Babesia - but they aren't very expensive.

What herbs are you taking? Yes, herbs can easily boost the immune system - there are actually quite a few that do, although in differing amounts.
Herb only treatment for Lyme & Bart ended 12/11 - no active symptoms for 2 yrs -Herb only treatment for Babesia ended 12/12
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=2977364
Had Lyme, Bart, Babs, RMSF, Ehrlichia, Myco, Anaplasmosis, EBV
New Lyme case 8/2014 - Healed 1/31/15 - unknowingly had Asymptomatic Babs and Asymptomatic Bart, being treated now though (2/2016)

OldSalty
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   Posted 4/9/2017 1:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Zinc is especially important. Zinc will eliminate or reduce the effects of a cold for 70% of the population.
Infected October 2015, diagnosed per lab - RMSF October 2016. EBV, Mycoplasma pneumonia. WB band 41 positive, Babesia positive. Bart symptoms.

Traveler
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   Posted 4/10/2017 10:59 AM (GMT -6)   
Yep, I supplement with zinc every flu/cold season - I don't want that stuff!!!
Herb only treatment for Lyme & Bart ended 12/11 - no active symptoms for 2 yrs -Herb only treatment for Babesia ended 12/12
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=2977364
Had Lyme, Bart, Babs, RMSF, Ehrlichia, Myco, Anaplasmosis, EBV
New Lyme case 8/2014 - Healed 1/31/15 - unknowingly had Asymptomatic Babs and Asymptomatic Bart, being treated now though (2/2016)
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