Article on stevia for Lyme

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UCSDMom
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   Posted 6/18/2017 1:31 PM (GMT -6)   
My friend sent me this:

https://www.healthspiritbody.com/lyme-disease-treatment/

Girlie
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   Posted 6/18/2017 1:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for posting UCSDMom


I know that some LLMD's do use Stevia for biofilms...but don't rely on it for the spirochete form.
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WV Mike
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   Posted 6/18/2017 4:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes thank you, I was just wondering about this the other day. Doc put stevia on the list of supplements.

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   Posted 6/18/2017 5:11 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm surprised he didn't put xylitol on instead, it seems to have bumped out stevia for preferences on biofilm destruction.
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Girlie
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   Posted 6/18/2017 5:13 PM (GMT -6)   
julymorning said...
I'm surprised he didn't put xylitol on instead, it seems to have bumped out stevia for preferences on biofilm destruction.


I know Dr. J. doesn't think stevia is good...and he uses xylitol and lactoferrin.
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added biaxin Sept. 26/14
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Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

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   Posted 6/19/2017 8:34 AM (GMT -6)   
We talk about stevia from time to time on this board. Seems work for some - not for others.

Here is a good thread about it (there are many others too):
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3808716

Here was our experience (copied from above thread). We noticed nothing from using stevia for several weeks (nothing good or bad). Here is the copy:
Having said that, we did several weeks of stevia per recommended by our functional medicine LLMD. None of us saw any effect from it (good or bad). We stopped using it. (I use the tincture sometimes to take the edge off the bad taste of all of my combined tinctures.) I talked to my doctor about his experience, and he says that he sees positive results from people. I believe him. I mean - why would he lie? He certainly isn't going to make money off a $10 bottle of stevia over time compared to the other treatments. (I trust him and don't believe he would lie anyways.)
I honestly respect doctors who think outside the box and are willing to try things that are low-risk because this disease(s) are very complicated to treat. I am grateful that my doctor is open minded. Unfortunately, stevia did not help us (doesn't mean it couldn't help others though). On to the next idea for us, as always...
Kid#1: Extremely sick for several years, very difficult to treat, but much better lately!
Kid#2: Very sick now despite being treated for years, very bad year
Kid#3: Doing great, minor relapse, but great again (ironically had least and shortest treatment)!
Me: Adv Labs positive 2016 (suspected I passed to my kids) - not as sick as others, mostly battling fatigue, kidney, heart, and yeast issues

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   Posted 6/19/2017 8:53 AM (GMT -6)   
Agreeing with Daisies - while most do not seem to benefit from it, a few do, and I do respect those doctors that are willing to try low risk options to improve their patients health as well.
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   Posted 6/19/2017 10:30 AM (GMT -6)   
The sugar alcohols have a long established proven history of benefit in breaking up biofilms and reducing bacterial loads.

It may be other additives that causes some to receive a benefit from Stevia supplementation as this sweetener is commonly combined with other items in its commercial preparation.

The main ingredient in Truvia is a sugar alcohol called erythritol (86% of Truvia by weight),

I believe all of the sugar alcohols have similar activity in the reduction of bacterial loads. Theoretically if we were to go into a state of complete ketosis and force Lyme bacteria to consume these sugar alcohols I wonder if we could succeed in eradicating it from our bodies all together.

It would be helpful to figure out which ones they prefer to consume.
If there were a safe way to introduce it into the bloodstream I believe it would accomplish erradication.

Xylitol has a super low glycemic index meaning very little is converted to glucose. Based on the chart below Erythritol may be able to starve these bacteria completely under the right conditions.

CALORIES PER GRAM SUGAR ALCOHOL

3.0 calories per gram Hydrogenated starch hydrolysates

2.6 calories per gram Sorbitol

2.4 calories per gram Xylitol

2.1 calories per gram Maltitol

2.0 calories per gram Isomalt

2.0 calories per gram Lactitol

1.6 calories per gram Mannitol

0.2 calories per gram Erythritol


I would love to conduct a study on this with grant money. If only I had the credentials that they like to see.

I plan to incorporate the use of Erythritol in the near future in place of Xylitol and see. I imagine I would have to go back to a state of ketosis also, but this is a reasonably simple protocol compared to many.

The steviosides may act in a similar way as some in vitro studies have suggested but based on personal experience I see Erythritol as having the most promise.
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