fiorecet...plain fiorecet..no codeine

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melindasworld
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   Posted 1/2/2009 4:58 PM (GMT -6)   
I have suffered with headaches for several years (more than five). The headaches are directly related to a huge knot in my right shoulder blade that NEVER goes away...the knot that is. Sometimes I don't have a headache regardless of the knot. There are times when I get the headaches it seems they last forever and will eventually make me feel sick to my stomach. I don't believe they are migraines although I definitley have had migraines. The nausea or sick feeling in my stomach I think comes from the location of the headache rather than the intensity. The headaches are not as bad as a true migraine but the duration and the location make it really awful. This is my problem....I am a drug addict...I go to AA regularly and came off a relapse with LORTAB a year and half ago. It was truly one of the worst experiences of my life...i detoxed myself cold turkey with ativan and clonodine and thought I had made it when a week later I wanted to die. The depression I had was like nothing i had ever experienced and never want to again.

The headaches and knot in my shoulder is still there. I can go for 10 days with no headache and then for a week straight I will get bad headaches. My shrink and regular doc knows my drug addiction history. Last week when I went to a doc in the box becauase I was having a bad HA...I didn't mention to this doc my hx of addiction nor did I ask for drugs. he gave me a steroid shot and a toradol shot. Three hours later I had no relief and called him back. he called in fiorecet...the kind with butalbitol, acetamenophen, and caffeine...no codiene. He said if I needed anything stronger to go to the ER.
The fiorecet worked and the next HA I had it worked again. The lortab which I started taking for the headaches never helped...I just became addicted to them so continued to take them.

i googled Fiorecet and read about them and saw they were prescribed for tension headaches. Why did no one ever prescribe these before when clearly the knots in my shoulder was a clear signs of tension headches? I had cat scans, MRI's was put on expensive tryptans that every now and then worked. I am also an ICU nurse so I know that doctors are clueless a lot of the time and that patients really need to be there own advocat.

I am scared of the fiorecet because of the butalbital which i really didnt know exactly what it was before I googled it. I feel SO frustated with my situation bevause of my tendency to get addicted to pain meds. It seem like narcots are the onb,ly think I become addicted and abuse. I have used diet pills and sleeping meds and have never ever abused them, so I wonder if its just narcotics.

As you can see from reading this post...as an addict I feel the need to explain my situation...people rareley believe anything addicts say regarding pain and I have found over the last ten years of being in recovery and being honest about my addiction with physicians, when I am in pain , docs and others first impression is I'm drug seeking. I won't lie...I love pain meds and the euphoria I get with pain meds...thats part of being an addict. But because I am an addict, do I deserve to suffer. I mean sometimes pain is jjst a part of living, but there are times when it's bad.

I have ordered fiorecet on line without any problem at all which sorta gave me a false sense of security that it can't be that big of deal. I've ordered Lortab on line and it's a lot of work whereas Fiorecet was a one step simple process. I have not even nasked my regular doc for them or my shrink cause I know they will never prescribe them for me...cause of course they will beleiev I am drug seeking. I am seeking pain relief. So I am being my own advocat , and trying to help my headaches get under control, which is so risky due to my addictiv tendencies.

What do other addicts out there do when they have chronic pain problems? I can handle pain for a while but when it doesn't go away, i become so frustrated with it I take matters into my own hands.

Does anyone know if its possible to get botox injection in the knot in my shoulder blade that causes the tension headaches? Maybe if the knot gets paralyzed it can't cause pain. But as a nurse I know there are risks, and I would hate for my arm to also be paralyzed!

Sorry for the long post...

missvirginiagirl
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   Posted 1/6/2009 7:38 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't know about the Botox injections, but I wanted to give you a little info on Fioricet. I had to take narcotics long term for a digestive problem, and I am very familiar with the high you can get from them. For me, they always gave me more energy for some reason, I never got tired. I would take a Percocet and my pain was gone and I was ready to paint my house....lol.... I was never addicted, though. I had surgery and my digestive prob is now fixed and I no longer need pain meds and I have not tried to get scripts for narcotics from my doctors or on the internet even though I did get that high from them so I did not display that drug seeking behavior. I guess everyone is different. Just wanted to tell you, though, that Fioricet is totally different than narcotics. I take it as needed for severe headaches and it makes me tired, you don't feel a high or anything, you just want to sleep, so I doubt you would get addicted to them like you did narcotics. Once again, everyone is different, so I cannot say that for sure, but that is just my experience with Fioricet. Also, they really help my headaches, but is important not to use them too much because my doc said they will stop being effective if you do use them too often you can develop rebound headaches. Good luck!
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melindasworld
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   Posted 1/6/2009 10:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for your reply...really appreciated.

LdyJane
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   Posted 1/14/2009 9:41 PM (GMT -6)   
Fioricet is my standby abortive for migraine; I'm limited to 2 pills 2x a day for 2 days a week (3 if okayed by the Dr.) Fioricet is habit forming and will cause rebound; this is not a drug to taken lightly; please be careful!

I have had botox several times and it works very well, if done correctly, for muscle spasms in the neck and shoulder area. I have occipital headaches as well and the resultant tension in my neck and shoulders creates a circle of pain with one area feeding off the other. Botox worked very, very well for this.

Janice

Post Edited (LdyJane) : 1/14/2009 8:49:58 PM (GMT-7)


loveslemons
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   Posted 7/23/2009 8:56 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, I have had a similar history actually. For years I have had knots in my shoulder blades that occasional visits to the chiropractor relieved. Then 10 mos. ago out of the blue I had severe headaches, some with nausea. I too tried a few tryptans but have only found 2 other drugs to be effective - Maxalt and Fiorecet. In the last month I began to get worried when I went thru 40 tabs in 2 weeks, meaning some days as much as 3x a day. I stopped because I was very worried about it being addictive. I finally asked my Dr. if there was much danger in continuing it's use that often. He said that Fiorecet w/o codeine is much safer but still cautioned me to only take it 2x a day. The other thing I am now trying is xanax (1 at night, and 1/2 during the day). Hard to say but in just the last few days I went from needing 2 to 1 and then none.

ALSO- have you considered chiropractic? During a bad spell last week, I felt immediate relief after an adjustment. I think not just any Chiropractor will do. Mine uses a little bit of massage and then to correct the slight tilt in my axis (rotated 5%) and is trying to help me correct my neck (I actually have the reverse curvature). It requires laying on a foam block to help.

In the last 10 mos. I have been thru alot and sympathize greatly with your situation. I hope something has helped since you last posted. I never thought my shoulder/neck was the source of my HA's but am really relieved that something has been working at last!
Amee

firefly30
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   Posted 10/30/2009 12:56 PM (GMT -6)   
I was curious what online site did you go to in order to order fiorcet online? I tried one and lost my money and no way to trace it back.

AngMichelle
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   Posted 11/1/2009 6:14 AM (GMT -6)   
All I know about fioricet is it can cause some horrible rebound headaches. I think message or Ciro. is something worth looking into. i really respect you and your willingness to admitt to and work through your addition. After years of actually needing pain medications, i found myself addicted and its really scary. Its so frustrating to when you have true pain on top of it all. Keep going strong. always be honest with your doctors, even about the non-narcotics. Good luck to you!
Ang
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