Umm I can't pee

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babybloo
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   Posted 12/4/2005 11:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Okay I can but it takes forever.  I know I have to go but then I can't.  Sometimes it takes so long expecially when I am at work that I just get up and leave.  What is this?  Anyone have experience with it?  It's nothing like having to go and it taking 5 minutes.  Help.
 
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nursejen
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   Posted 12/5/2005 12:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Bloo, I certainly hope you have went ot the MD. It sounds like bladdre or kidney infection. Or a s/s of something but what ever you do, don't let it go on long . If it is a infection it can get bad fast. Lots of water while your waiting to see MD. Good Luck. Nursejen

Motown John
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   Posted 12/5/2005 8:51 AM (GMT -6)   

Monday a.m.

Dear Bloo:

I am in agreement with NurseJen.

Say hello to Dr. Urologist.

Very good luck.  John


babybloo
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   Posted 12/5/2005 9:26 AM (GMT -6)   
I thought with an infection there is some sort of pain?  I am not having any pain.  It isn't possible its an STD.  Sorry my life is pretty pitiful.  It is almost as if the muscle or watever is doing the opposite is supposed to.  Closing instead of opening.  Its frustrating.  I think my bladder is falling apart like the rest of me. 
dx:  unknown
 
current: asthma, allergies w/anaphylaxsis, hypertension, high sed rate, high CRP, raynaud's syndrome, hypothyroid
 
meds:  Protonix 40mg QD, Singulair 10mg, Maxair, Advair 250/50, Diovan 160mg QD, Synthroid .1mg QD, Women's One a Day, B6 and B12, Ibuprofen 800mg, Ultram.
 
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uppitycats
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   Posted 12/5/2005 10:51 AM (GMT -6)   

You can indeed have a bladder infection without the common signs of pain, or itching, or burning or other discomfort.

If you are not peeing sufficiently, the urine can back up and cause a kidney infection -- NOT a good thing.

I don't remember -- have you been diagnosed with MS?  It's possible that you have what is called a "neurogenic bladder" -- the muscles (and the bladder is a muscle) aren't opening and closing properly, are "out of sync", so you'll feel the urge to pee and not be able to...or not feel the urge, and suddenly you've wet yourself.

Yes -- see a urologist. You can be tested for all of this, and if it is a neurogenic bladder, there are meds you can take to help with it!

 


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   Posted 12/5/2005 4:32 PM (GMT -6)   

Hi Bloo,

   I agree with the others that you need to see a doctor about this problem. Like Uppity said, You don't always have symptoms of an infection. I have had UTI"s and didn't even know I had one.

   Please let us know what you find out. You will be in my thoughts and prayers.

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pblongboarders
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   Posted 4/26/2007 6:21 PM (GMT -6)   
This has been happening a lot to me. It usually happens when I have been in a very deep sleep. It will sometimes take me over an hour to finally get rid of all of it. But last weekend, I just could not go at all. I was in a lot of pain and my firefighter husband was going to take me to urgent care at 4 when he got off. But he called me and told me my bladder could burst and that I needed to call 911 and get transported. How embarrassing. The doctor wanted to put in a cath and send me home with a bag, but since this had never happened before, I asked her to wait. Then the next morning, I was in even more pain. My husband took me in again and they drained 1 1/2 liter in less than a minute. Now I am wearing a bag and sometimes see blood clots in there. It's pretty scary. The urologist said I have to have the bag for two weeks then be seen.

Has this happened to anyone else?

lhasapoo
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   Posted 7/15/2007 6:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Babyloo, I'm new to this site. I actually put on the search engine, "I can't pee when taking ultram" and your reply came up, I noticed you were taking ultram too. Does this happen when you are taking ultram? Have you noticed? It seems to only happen to me when I take the ultram. Interesting, huh?    

uppitycats
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   Posted 7/15/2007 7:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Urine retention is listed as a possible side effect of the drug you are taking.

...I am not a doctor, nor health professional, and don't pretend to be one, here.....


Marie-Claire
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   Posted 7/16/2007 2:18 AM (GMT -6)   
I have had this problem before also....turned out to be a complication of crohns disease, and another time was a result of a urethral stricture.
See your doctor...please don't this go on too long....when you can't pee....something is definately wrong somewhere!
Mary
50 yr.old retired RN,Crohn's D for last35 yrs..severe esophagitis, migraines,strictures,urethral stricture,depression,probable MS.
 
 


mortisha
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   Posted 7/16/2007 10:11 AM (GMT -6)   
I do have MS and one of my symptoms is a neurogenic bladder.  I have to self-cath myself at least once a night, sometimes twice a night.  I too have an overwhelming urge to pee and then can't go at all.  I've found that by cathing I decrease the incidence of urinary tract infection (I've had quite a few), and just am more comfortable.  I've gotten so that I can cath in just a few minutes and then go right back to sleep.  Much better than being up twenty times a night trying to go and feeling miserable.

shellypoo
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   Posted 7/16/2007 10:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi,
I have a neurogenic bladder also and couldn't tolerate the meds so I opted for the placement of an Interstim (which I've mentioned on here before).  It has been a life saver for me.  I wasn't even aware there was such a thing but come to find out there are lots of folks with MS who have it.  It helps with both retention and urge. :-)
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mortisha
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   Posted 7/17/2007 3:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Tell me about Interstim.  I can't tolerate a lot of meds because of retention problems and Interstim sounds like something I would be interseted in.

shellypoo
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   Posted 7/17/2007 3:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Mortisha,
The website www.medtronic.com/patients/bladder.html is a great resource.  It tells all about it.  Medtronic is the name of the company that makes it, they make all kinds of devices for the human body.
 
I hope you can find the info. you need.  If not, just ask.  Take care.
 


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Post Edited (shellypoo) : 7/17/2007 2:11:21 PM (GMT-6)


mortisha
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   Posted 7/17/2007 3:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Shellypoo, I did look at that we site and others, and they all say that Interstim is not indicated for MS.  So I guess the FDA hasn't approved it for MS?  That can become an insurance problem can't it?  You have found it beneficial though, right?  I'm confused about whether I should pursue this.  What are your thoughts?

Citrine
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   Posted 7/18/2007 7:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello I am new here, I was diagnosed with MS in 1995 with RRMS.
I have this same problem with urinary retention too, not all the time but at least once or twice a year for a week or more. It's VERY uncomfortable to say the least.

My doctor gave me an RX for urecholine....it flushes out the bladder, and most of the time it helps.
Last february it did'nt. I had an appointment to get my yearly Pap and the OBGYN (who's wife has MS)
told me that it is really important that I empty my bladder so I dont get a kidney infection from an overloaded bladder.
He had me go to the bathroom and then he catherized me to see how much I was withholding and I still had 8 ounces.

He gave me the materials to do self cath for when I cannot go on my own, and I have and believe me it is not hard and its doesn't hurt, it is truely a relief.
Speak to your doctor about this. After ruling out any infections or other issues, this may be what you need to do :)

Good Luck to you

Capernia
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   Posted 3/16/2009 12:55 AM (GMT -6)   
I have the same problem in a way. Just for the past few days I keep feeling like I have to pee but when I go to the bathroom I can't do anything or I do very little. Not sure what is wrong but I'm thinking about calling the doctors tomorrow. I've never experienced this before. I did have a UTI one time but it was way worse than this. They actually though I was having appendix problems back then because I had a bad pain my lower stomach area. Plus, I felt really sick and couldn't stand up without feeling like passing out or throwing up. This is nothing like that... I never remember having trouble going to the bathroom then and they diagnosed and treated me for UTI. That was like 4-5 years ago. Now I'm having this other problem where I'm actually having trouble going and where I keep feeling like I have to go even if I don't. Could this be a UTI too then? Just seems weird they would have such different symptoms...

rhondab
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   Posted 3/16/2009 1:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Capernia

U do need to call u'r doc. Yes, the symptoms u describe could be from a UTI, but it's best to allow a doc to dx and then treat that for u. If u have ms, it could def be a symptom of that. U'r doc can give u meds to help if it's neurological. One med i've tried...and i DON"T have ms...is Detrol. It works great! My doc dx'd spasms for me...which may be what's happening wiht u. Either way, it's best to get in touch with u'r doc. Please let us know what u find out and how u'r doing.
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JohnLuther
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   Posted 3/18/2009 8:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Well, I can tell you that if you have MS that is a definate symptom. I do and I have been to the urologist as well as the neurologist. I was prescribed Detrol by the neuro. The urologist had a fit. While the DETROL works excellent, it is putting a bandaid on a long term problem that could give birth to more serious issues in the years to come if untreated. I self cath twice a day instead of the detrol, and what a relief it is. Sounds drastic, and it is, but well worth it in the short and long term.....

Ninjuh
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   Posted 9/10/2009 8:12 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello, I know this may sound kinda odd but all you need is to smoke a cigarette. The smoke stimulates your body and triggers a relaxant. This will cause your bladder valve muscle to relax as well, thus resulting in urination. TRUST ME! Just try it and if it doesn't work after 1 cigarette then you may have to go to the MD but I too had this problem and it worked just fine for me. Just tryin to help :D

thesundancekd
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   Posted 10/14/2010 5:19 AM (GMT -6)   
I just joined this website solely to say thank you to Ninjuh.

I had been unable to urinate for 36 hours straight (I believe it was caused by my abusing Ultram), and had been relieving myself every 30 minutes or so by doing inter-rectal messages of my bladder (trust me, I was extremely desperate for relief). But anyway... At 3AM, I was about to go to the ER to get cath'd when I came upon this website in a last minute search for a desperate solution to my problem and I saw Ninjuh's post about smoking a cigarette; I thought it was ridiculous/odd, but I was desperate enough to try anything before wasting money on an ER visit and going through the painful process of getting a tube shoved up my Urethra... So I borrowed a cigarette from my roommate at 3AM, and five minutes after smoking only one cigarette my bladder opened up like magic and I finally urinated like 3 liters worth of piss and I can't tell you how relieved I feel.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but CIGARETTES SAVED ME!!! GODBLESS you (even though I'm agnostic, lol) for that advise, Ninjuh. I don't think I'd ever been in so much pain as I was ten minutes ago. So thank you... and thank you Marlboro!

pray4relief
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   Posted 11/2/2010 3:26 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm new on here and I have RRMS, in addition other fatiguing issues. My question is this: I've been to two Urologists for this same issue and it seems all they want to do is run tests. I've been through several tests, and they keep coming up with more - just depends on the urologist. Who can afford more and more tests, plus the pain (I'm a migraineur) just to be told that they won't teach me to cath until they finish the lastest round of tests? It's maddening! After getting in bed, I must go to the bathroom every night at least 7 or 8 times, and then just give up, since my sleeping pill kicks in.

Thanks Citrine for giving me the idea of asking my GYN if he'll teach me to self-cath - I never even thought of that! I think I'll make my appointment right away!

AVFMkath
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   Posted 12/7/2010 9:52 AM (GMT -6)   
Well what a lot of attempted diagnoses !
The main thing is you need a diagnosis. If it is MS yes, this is indeed a recognized symptom, caused by a lesion in the sacral area of the spinal cord. For this reason an Interstim can work but not always. There are money drugs used for this problem and overactive bladder. You may or may not have a UTI (urinary tract infectio) and yes these are often symptom free in MS(no burning). All of this is described in an article I wrote which can be found on both my blog and my face book fan page.

You are no alone but please take action as leaving this untreated can result in further problems.
Kath Ibbetson has had RRMS for 22 years.
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