what the nurs on the phone said!

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froggygirl23
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   Posted 8/16/2006 12:14 PM (GMT -6)   

Just got off phone with nurse for imd. She said that the doctor wrote a letter stating that other than a viral infection she coudn't figure out what was wrong with him, and that she was sorry she couldn't be of more help. That she wanted to refer him to the neuro in her words "back to where he came from"!

She doesn't want to see him anymore! That is so odd, anyone have any ideas. Oh and she still WILL NOT refer big clinic. I mean flat refuses. I said you realize that the neuro isn't interested in being our pcp, that's why she wanted us to see you and that she has told us several times that she won't refer, (but yet she's the one who recommended it) Finally i asked the nurse, "on a personal level, we won't bother you again, but in your opinion what would you do if you were us" she said "on a personal level, in my opinion, I would get a second opinion from a primary care physician." We are left with nothing..... She says she doesn't know what's wrong, but has only done one blood test and looked in his ears, eyes, mouth, & mushed on his stomach. So really she hasn't even tried to look! Plus, if she doesn't know and says she doesn't know then why didn't she refer us.

Am I the only one who thinks this is very strange? The only thing I can think of is that she either run a credit check on him (his credit isn't very good) or she & the insurance are in coohoots together... Am I crazy? Any suggestions? Thank you again for your time.


uppitycats
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   Posted 8/16/2006 12:53 PM (GMT -6)   
froggygirl23 said...

Just got off phone with nurse for imd. She said that the doctor wrote a letter stating that other than a viral infection she coudn't figure out what was wrong with him, and that she was sorry she couldn't be of more help. That she wanted to refer him to the neuro in her words "back to where he came from"!

She doesn't want to see him anymore! That is so odd, anyone have any ideas. Oh and she still WILL NOT refer big clinic. I mean flat refuses. I said you realize that the neuro isn't interested in being our pcp, that's why she wanted us to see you and that she has told us several times that she won't refer, (but yet she's the one who recommended it) Finally i asked the nurse, "on a personal level, we won't bother you again, but in your opinion what would you do if you were us" she said "on a personal level, in my opinion, I would get a second opinion from a primary care physician." We are left with nothing..... She says she doesn't know what's wrong, but has only done one blood test and looked in his ears, eyes, mouth, & mushed on his stomach. So really she hasn't even tried to look! Plus, if she doesn't know and says she doesn't know then why didn't she refer us.

Am I the only one who thinks this is very strange? The only thing I can think of is that she either run a credit check on him (his credit isn't very good) or she & the insurance are in coohoots together... Am I crazy? Any suggestions? Thank you again for your time.

Doctors are not compelled to see any patient. And unless the patient is dying, doctors can refuse treatment and refust to continue treatment for any reason -- simply because they don't want to, can be good enough.
I don't think there is any conspiracy there (probably not a credit check; can't speak to the insurance issue without knowing a LOT more about your insurance).
 
Suggestion -- exactly what the nurse said. Go back to your primary (that wasn't the IMD, was it?) and/or to another physician, start over, get a second opinion. You don't even have to tell the new doctor it's a "second opinion" if you don't want to: simply start fresh, with a current list of symptoms, and see where it goes.
(A lot can be determined from just one blood test: you listed a whole bunch of results from that one test; just not a diagnosis that the doctor was willing to commit to!)

...I am not a doctor, nor health professional, and don't pretend to be one, here.....


uppitycats
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   Posted 8/16/2006 12:54 PM (GMT -6)   
I should add that viral infections -- if that is indeed what it is -- can take a long time to recover from. But of course you need to get a confirmation that indeed, that IS what is ailing him.
...I am not a doctor, nor health professional, and don't pretend to be one, here.....


froggygirl23
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   Posted 8/16/2006 1:06 PM (GMT -6)   
He has been sick for over 2 1/2 months. 
 
We have had a lot of blood work done before we seen her. Hematology, chemisty, and tsh level.  
 
The IMD has only done one round (hemaltology) and tested for hepatatis.  THe neuro could have done that much!  Also no one has tested for heavy metals, no one has tested nutrient levels, no one has given him a test for diabetes or a stress test for the heart.  Or anything unrelated to the brain..... which was suppose to be her job!!  We were charged 115 dollars for her to do one round of blood work, and not want to see us anymore!  Shouldn't that be a crime?

uppitycats
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   Posted 8/16/2006 1:40 PM (GMT -6)   
It should be a crime, but it isn't. Health care in the US sucks. Who did all the prior blood work? Go back to him/her, report that he is still sick, and worse, now what.

Or go to a new doctor. You are entitled to your tests (sounds like you have all of them anyway). Present them (but don't be surprised if the new doctor wants to start over). Ask, "what's next?"

Another suggestion -- see a rheumatologist who is more familiar with and used to looking for metabolic/viral/infections kinds of illnesses, including things like diabetes. Doctors don't usually test for heavy metals unless there is some indication that the patient has been exposed -- are there opportunities with his job to be exposed to them?
...I am not a doctor, nor health professional, and don't pretend to be one, here.....


froggygirl23
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   Posted 8/16/2006 9:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Well as far as I know only lead.  And that's because he lives in an old house, (plumbing) and the paint is questionable and peeling. (which I understand is only a problem if he's eating them)
 
He works with chemicals Im not sure what kind, but has had some hazmat training.

lmb
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   Posted 8/22/2006 8:27 AM (GMT -6)   
ive had that happen to me...well kinda like that so i just went to my primary dr and told him i wanted him to send me to another dr scince the one he sent me to didnt want to help me and he did so u should do that and keep doing it until u find one that will do all they can to try and help him and see whats wrong and even if they dont find anything they should at least try to do all they can and u will feel betyter knowing they tried everything they could to help...so good luck..and i hope this is a helpful suggestion
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