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Papa_Bear
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   Posted 1/29/2007 9:42 PM (GMT -6)   
I HATE injections!!! AAARRRGGGGGGGGGGGG
 
 
 - Pete
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rhondab
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   Posted 1/29/2007 10:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Pete

I'm sorry. :( Even tho i don't inject i can certainly understand u'r frustration in this. Take good care...and it's soo good to see u here again.
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shellypoo
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   Posted 1/29/2007 10:02 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm with you papa bear!!  The injections are for the birds.  After 13 months you'd think I wouldn't mind them but I grow to hate them more each week.  But I know it doesn't matter, the alternative is......... sad
I'll put up with them for as long as I have to. :-)
Michelle ><>
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TG
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   Posted 1/30/2007 2:41 PM (GMT -6)   
i am off my avonex for 4 weeks i understand i hate the shots
 

snowdog
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   Posted 1/31/2007 12:27 PM (GMT -6)   

 

I know how pathetic I am, but knowing the consquences, knowing the possible results, I stopped taking my injections.

I have developed some kind of mental block...... a pavlog dog thing. The snap of an injector makes me nuts, and my hands
tremble more than they did when I was DX'd. And it is funny to watch the darn needle bouncing around in my hand as I try to
hit the spot.

One day.... two months ago.........I just couldn't do it anymore. I am sure I am doomed.

skull

ConfusedGal
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   Posted 1/31/2007 12:55 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Guys
 
I totally understand the injection thing. I have only been doing my Copaxone for a month but those are daily. Have you tried the autoinjector?? I coudnt do the shots if I could see the needle... The autoinject allows me to do it without seeing the needle and is over n 10 seconds...really does help

tropical dreams
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   Posted 1/31/2007 4:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Everyone,

I too HATE those darn shots! I am on betaseron (since 8/06) which is every other day for me. My first shot was with my Nurse and she recommended the autoinject, well when I did it I couldn't believe how much it hurt!!!! Not so much the needle it's the serum that feels like knives or glass going in. Needless to say I don't use the autoinject anymore. Wish a pill would come out real soon:)
***Carla***
 
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Betaseron
Citalopram
Gabapentin


Kimber
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   Posted 1/31/2007 6:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Pete!
 
   Good to see you posting and I hope everything is going ok with you.   Seems a lot of folks agree with you about hating shots too!  I'm with Carla, I hope the pill form comes sooner than later.  And, also like Carla, we don't use the autoinjector anymore because we found out that manually hurts less, for him anyway. 
 
Snowdog, I'm so sorry you are having injection troubles.  Is there anything that you think might help?  We are here for you if you need us.
 
 
 
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hairball
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   Posted 1/31/2007 8:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Ive been doing them for 4 mounths and still hate it everytime. My wife has to do it for me , sometimes i think i might try it myself , but that is no ever going to happen. try the smaller needle 25 gage and 1 inch . belive it or not the gage size made a big differance for me. good luck
It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
Hit it.


snowdog
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   Posted 2/1/2007 9:33 AM (GMT -6)   
 
 
Thanks Kimber,
 
I have tried the ice, the warm, the this and that. I have never been afraid of shots or needles. The Sol IV's, no problem....blood tests, no problem......pneumonia shot and flu shots.....no problem.
 
Even the first few times I gave my Rebif shots, without the injector....no problem. (Then came the hives, the rash etc)
 
Copax I thought would be a nuisance, but I didn't see any problems. Tried the autoinjector first shot...mistake for me. Then the Wasp Sting for 10 minutes or more. After that the usual red spot, itching, no big deal. But I kept trying to using the autoinjector and the
"snap" noise became programed in me for pain and wasp sting. Then I tried to do self injections.....my hands are either shakey because of tremors or just cause I can't do it or both.
 
My wife has tried, bless her heart. But she is no good at this at all. Then she cries.
 
So, it seems I am doomed.
 
Hey Hairball........you mentioned smaller needles......I noticed that rebif has the smallest needles out of the CRAB drugs. Copax are...slightly larger....very slightly....  
 
But I didn't have a problem with rebif injections............I don't know how I would get past the wasp sting and other issues, but how do you get smaller needles for a CRAB drug that comes pre-filled?
 
 
Thanks everyone,
 
Dog

shellypoo
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   Posted 2/1/2007 10:38 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi SD!
I know with my Avonex it is pre-filled and I just don't use the needle that comes with it(it's not attached) and I put on a 25G 1inch. (which I buy for 8 cnets at Target.) I can't remember on the Rebif if you can remove the needle or not...it's been too long!
 
I would contact the copaxone folks and ask them specifically about a smaller needle.  Also, is there anyone at your work that can inject you?  There might be a diabetic whose used to it or maybe you have an employee health nurse?
 
Take care.....we fight the fight united! :-)
Michelle ><>
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snowdog
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   Posted 2/1/2007 5:13 PM (GMT -6)   

 

Shell,

Your to much.........

"Hey, pretty young thing in the corner......want to stick a needle in my sit me down?" devil

LAWSUIT, COPS, DISMISAL, MEDIA...........

 

Serious....I appreciate your thoughts and concerns. You already know that. tongue


Kimber
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   Posted 2/1/2007 5:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Snowdog, The copaxone injections we have are attached needles, but it couldnt hurt to inquire about a smaller needle.  If your wife is not able to do them for you, is there anyone else who might be willing?  A family friend, coworker, grown child? My husband cannot do his either, and I've been injecting him for the past six years, really no shame in it as long as you are getting the medication no matter how its done!   Also another thought, is there any of the rotation spots that are easier for you with less pain, and where you don't shake?  Yes, we are SUPPOSE to rotate all 8 locations but the last few years we have only been rotating 4 spots, the arms and the hips.  Just very careful not to go anywhere near the first injection spot from last time and we haven't had any problems do it this way although it is not recommended.  The thighs and stomach seem to hurt no matter what we do, even injecting the med at room temperature.  I do wish you luck with continuing, and no you are not doomed as there is a solution for you out there we just have to find it. 
 
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hairball
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   Posted 2/1/2007 9:09 PM (GMT -6)   
10 bucks for 100 needles at cvs
It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
Hit it.


littlechina
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Total Posts : 97
   Posted 2/2/2007 12:05 AM (GMT -6)   
I just did my first injection tonight. Or tried to. I completely broke down and I just couldn't do it. Finally after 20 minutes of sobbing, the nurse let my husband step in and do it.

I am trying the Copaxone. It was only a 30 gauge needle for me, really really tiny and didn't even hurt. But darn, the Copaxone itself stings like a mother. Owwie. We did my thigh, although the nurse insisted the stomach hurts least. I am skeptical of the stomach.

I would like to be able to do it myself, but its a lot harder than I thought. My husband was a pro, in and out in less than 8 seconds. God bless him. I don't know if I'll ever get used this. Does anyone have any really good tips for helping with the burning or any tips in general? Someone mentioned ice....what do you use the ice for?

snowdog
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   Posted 2/2/2007 9:29 AM (GMT -6)   

Hey Little,

Welcome and I am sorry about your first experience. What you experienced is the "Bee Sting or Wasp Sting".  I have tried the ice/cold items, before and after the shot, warm items (towels, washcloth, warm hot water bottle etc), pain killers (over the counter and prescription) before and after and beating my head against a wall..he he he.....nothing I have done or the tons of suggestions from our
brothers and sisters in MS seems....FOR ME....to counter that sting. And for me it lasts a good 10 minutes or more. After which everything is fine.

Most of the advice is to "suck it up man" Be a guy !!! You know its for your own good.

However, as noted above, I have developed a mental block about it now.....and stopped.

Good Luck, and hang in there.
 
Dog

pugmaster
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Date Joined Feb 2007
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   Posted 2/3/2007 10:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi there,

My wife suggests practicing sticking the needle into an orange. Eventually she'll be able do you too!
Pugmaster


snowdog said...
Thanks Kimber,



I have tried the ice, the warm, the this and that. I have never been afraid of shots or needles. The Sol IV's, no problem....blood tests, no problem......pneumonia shot and flu shots.....no problem.



Even the first few times I gave my Rebif shots, without the injector....no problem. (Then came the hives, the rash etc)



Copax I thought would be a nuisance, but I didn't see any problems. Tried the autoinjector first shot...mistake for me. Then the Wasp Sting for 10 minutes or more. After that the usual red spot, itching, no big deal. But I kept trying to using the autoinjector and the

"snap" noise became programed in me for pain and wasp sting. Then I tried to do self injections.....my hands are either shakey because of tremors or just cause I can't do it or both.



My wife has tried, bless her heart. But she is no good at this at all. Then she cries.



So, it seems I am doomed.



Hey Hairball........you mentioned smaller needles......I noticed that rebif has the smallest needles out of the CRAB drugs. Copax are...slightly larger....very slightly....



But I didn't have a problem with rebif injections............I don't know how I would get past the wasp sting and other issues, but how do you get smaller needles for a CRAB drug that comes pre-filled?





Thanks everyone,



Dog

MSBLESSED
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   Posted 2/4/2007 12:07 AM (GMT -6)   
First of all I'm new to the whole forum thing, not to mention the MS thing. I was just diagnosed in November. I begin the Copaxone injections on 1/2 and am doing ok. The autoinjector was my only option, considering doing the shots myself was NOT an option. NO WAY. I have had daily injection site reactions, but nothing that I can't handle. It's great to be part of a positive forum. I've seem some out there that really scared me. MS is something that none of us want or ever plan for our live, but let's take some control back and stick with the therapies. It's a start!

rhondab
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   Posted 2/4/2007 12:31 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey MSBLESSED!

Welcome to the board! I"m sorry u've been diagnosed and are having to deal with the whole injections thing, but as u said, better to have some control over it! Good for u for having a positive attitude! I hope u'll enjoy this forum and find, as we all have, that the support here is tremendous. I hope to get to know u better in time to come. We have live chat's on Monday's at 6:00pm (cst) and would love to see u join us. It's a great time to get some real time answers to u'r questions as well as get to know the other members a little better. Again, welcome!
rhonda
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