Hives related to MS?

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photogirl1358
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   Posted 2/12/2007 5:08 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi everyone...
 
A few months ago I started to break out in red spots on my hands.  I thought maybe it was Betaseron, it wasn't.  I thought it was food related, but it wasn't that either.  After watching it, it is pressure related.  I'll scratch my hand on something that didn't even hurt, and a few minutes later I have a raised red line.  I mentioned it to my GP and she thought it was because I've had a lingering flu-like virus.  The virus seems to be gone but the hives are getting worse.. they are itchier, it takes less to make them appear and now they are bumps instead of spots.
 
Has anyone had this?  I read something about the immune system being overactive being a cause so it got me thinking.  
 
Thanks!
 
Shar
 
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Diagnosed with MS April 2006
Longstanding anxiety and depression
Currently on Betaseron


uppitycats
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   Posted 2/12/2007 7:53 AM (GMT -7)   

I don't think there is any direct correlation between MS and hives.

There IS a relationship between hives and the immune system -- the immune systems "job" is to eliminate anything from the "outside" that it perceives as "foreign".  That's what happens with MS -- the immune system has gotten confused, thinks the myelin is a "foreign invader", and is trying to eliminate it.  Medical scientists are trying to figure out why/how the immune system got confused, and correct that.

Hives, on the other hand, are one way the immune system reacts to foreign invaders that is proper -- the immune system is chasing after something in your system that is "foreign" -- as your doctor said, a virus -- and responding in that way.

But are you SURE you have hives?  They usually appear as large swellings, not just small red spots, or a raised red line.  At any rate, your doctor should be offering you an antihistamine medication, or sometimes cream, that will treat them.

Otherwise, in this dry weather, if I scratch myself I'll often cause my skin to redden, spots to appear, and they'll itch worse. The skin is a large organ of the body, and with all this bitter cold and heat in the house, I'm flaking all over and itching everywhere.


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uppitycats
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   Posted 2/12/2007 7:55 AM (GMT -7)   
..and hives usually appear on more than just your hands..like face, chest, back....

If it's only your hands, I'd think of some environmental cause, like soap, or dryness, or change in hand cream, or something where you're putting your hands in some fluid and the skin is sensitive....
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Denda
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   Posted 2/12/2007 8:04 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Shar -

I've gotten hives before and as uppity said above it's all over and they are HUGE puffy blotches, inches in diameter. I get them if I take any med that has any type of sulfa product in it. They itch like a son of a gun and hurt once you start itching them. Hope you figure out what it is you've got. Sorry you're going through it all.
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uppitycats
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   Posted 2/12/2007 8:12 AM (GMT -7)   

Here's a website...complete with pictures (ugh!) that describe hives:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000845.htm


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ConfusedGal
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   Posted 2/12/2007 9:54 AM (GMT -7)   
YES YES YES!! I have the EXACT same thing! Even if I scratch slightly I have a big raised red line! And I itch randomly all over! The hives dont come unless I scratch the area...or even slight scratch... This started for me around the time of my second flare. I didnt change ANYTHING...No creams, foods, anything... The doc said the itching can be related to the MS. I didnt really ask him about the hives, since they seem to be a result of the itching. I have had this for 2 months now. The IV of steroids helped for a bit but then it all came back!

uppitycats
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   Posted 2/12/2007 2:05 PM (GMT -7)   
If in fact you really do have hives -- and not a sensory problem, a nerve-sensitivity problem that is related to having MS -- then you really need to be on an antihistamine, which is the only thing that will treat them.

If they're not really "hives", but a nerve-ending related itch, which is common with MS, then there isn't much that can be done to treat the area. If you're not allergic to it, some aloe-based creams will sometimes help.
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Kimber
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   Posted 2/12/2007 4:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Shar and everyone :)
 
    There is a type of skin problem called dermographism which can appear upon friction of the skin or light touch resulting in an itchy welty line.  It looks like hives kinda but isn't really considered hives.  There are lots of causes, including certain auto immune diseases, and antihistamines might help if this is what's going on.  Here's a link to explain further.
 
 
 
 
   
 
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uppitycats
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   Posted 2/12/2007 4:36 PM (GMT -7)   
yeah, dermographism... THAT's what I was trying to remember! :)
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photogirl1358
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   Posted 2/13/2007 4:21 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for all of your replies .. 
 
Uppity, yeah I'm sure it's hives.  Before I went into the dr's office I made sure to pinch and scratch myself a few times so she could see the bumps at their "best" and she said Uticaria.  They certainly aren't the size of the pics on that link u gave, but they are raised red and itchy when they pop up.  They started as spots but now a few months later they have turned into lumps.
 
I think I just notice them more on my hands and arms because I seem them all the time, but they do appear elsewhere occassionally.  Luckily they disappear within minutes.  Anyhoo, if they get much worse I will think about taking antihistimines.  At this point they are tolerable, just annoying and I was curious.
 
Thanks guys!
 
Shar
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Diagnosed with MS April 2006
Longstanding anxiety and depression
Currently on Betaseron

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