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Slice
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   Posted 3/31/2008 4:37 PM (GMT -6)   
  So while i was at my surgeons office for a follow up, i mentioned i was having some problems  with the skin around my stoma. So of course there is a yeast infection going on ( oh the humanity of being a guy and saying you have a yeast infection) but little did i know i was using the wrong type of appliance and it was bruising the area around my stoma by putting to much pressure on that area. So after i got over the fact that is was my ostomy nurse who suggested that appliance in the first place, she came back in with a new type. Coloplast flat wafer ( instead of the cup shaped one that was pushing in to far) with the velcro type clipless close. Gotta say so far i like it. The bag doesn't hang down as far, which is nice. And it seems MUCH easier to clean, so i've already noticed that the smell doesn't seem to be there. Probably because the end of it just seems so much cleaner than the bags with the clips closure.
   This will be the first night wearing it, which is when my output is at it's largest.  I'll see how it holds up. 
  If it doesn't work, i'll be sending the cleaning bill to the nurse.   yeah
 
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HisWill
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   Posted 3/31/2008 5:36 PM (GMT -6)   
I went to have get marked for my surgery on Thurs. The nurse showed me several applliances and I have no clue which one I should use. She said the nurses at the hospital will help me after my surgery. She made it sound so simple. But after reading so many posts about leakage, breaking, etc. I know that it is not as easy as she made it sound. Anyway, did you have to go by trial and error to figure out what works best for you? I am having a subtotal/ileostomy done..which will be permanent. So I guess I will have plenty of time to figure out which will work best, lol. Anyway,,good luck. I hope it works for you.

praying4healing
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   Posted 3/31/2008 6:08 PM (GMT -6)   
slice, i like the clipless too...i used to spend like a half hour in the bathroom just trying to clean the tail of my bags w/the clips (until i started cuffing the ends, which u cant do with the clipless). N e way, yea i dig em too!

hiswill...yes it is mostly trial and error...i've been blessed to have gotten the right one on the first try...i've never tried n e thing else ( im talking manufacturers i use convatec) however i must suggest their moldable wafers! i started off cutting, which was really tedious for me in the beginning, with the moldable there is no cutting! it cut my changing time dramatically. I am now in love ( and to think i never thought that possible lol
25 y/o female- crohns disease since 14
Ileostomy pending-very worried
Tried asacol,pentasa,prednisone,remicade,6mp,azasan, no avail
Seatons placed
Worst year ever!

"For God has not given us the spirit of fear....."
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Slice
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   Posted 3/31/2008 6:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Only thing with the pre cut wafers is your stoma will most likely shrink after a while. It is trial and error. I know the more active i got the less the one piece worked for me. I went through a few in the beginning and even now it'll be 2 years in August and i'm still changing appliances. It'll also depend on how your surgery comes out and how your stoma looks.

I have to agree with Praying. So far these clipless one are SOOO much easier to clean. Not to mention the drain part is larger. IT all comes out quick.

I've actually gone back to the cut to fit wafers. Using Convatec now.
 
Crohn's for what seems like forever
Bagged in August 2006
@ssless as of 11/2007
 
 


praying4healing
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   Posted 3/31/2008 6:20 PM (GMT -6)   
slice u do know that the moldables arent pre cut right? thats why theyr especially great for shrinking stomas or irregular ones, it literally molds to ur stoma size, u just roll it back and presto! the heat and moisture helps it conform to your stoma and it swells up around as to make it stick out a little more
25 y/o female- crohns disease since 14
Ileostomy pending-very worried
Tried asacol,pentasa,prednisone,remicade,6mp,azasan, no avail
Seatons placed
Worst year ever!

"For God has not given us the spirit of fear....."
Where does mine come from?!
 Temp Ileostomy performed 1/29/08
Still Adusting
 Healingwell.com has been my Godsend...Thank you


Ash83
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   Posted 4/2/2008 7:10 PM (GMT -6)   
So it's Convatec? Wait, I might even have a sample of what you're talking about. Too tired to dig through to find it though. My skin works well with Convatec, it would be great if I could find a better version of what I use now. Even though I don't have many complaints.
 
I'm assuming there were no catastrophes that night? I don't think I heard any swearing... tongue

Shaz032
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   Posted 4/3/2008 6:59 AM (GMT -6)   
I LOVE velcro! I've been a Coloplast girl for 32 years and the first bags of theirs I used had these twisty tie type closures which I liked too. I've never been a fan of clips! Too easy to come undone or dig into unsuspecting flesh. When the velcro came along, I tried a sample and have never changed back! They're brilliant!
I have had an ileostomy for 32 years now due to UC.
 
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Indabag
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   Posted 4/3/2008 9:03 AM (GMT -6)   
Another vote for velcro. They're so much more convenient. When I used the clips I was constantly misplacing them and digging through drawers to find a replacement. Plus in 3 years I have had only one malfunction with the velcro and that was because I rolled it uo crooked (pilot error!)

Richard
Indabag
 
Ileostomy since August 2005.
As result of surgery (modified whipple) for necrotising pancreatitis. Removal of gallbladder, 2/3 of pancreas, resections of large and small intestines. Massive infection. 


summerstorm
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   Posted 4/3/2008 9:01 PM (GMT -6)   
they sent me home in those clips and i did not trust them and they hurt, owwwie!

justjenjen
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   Posted 4/3/2008 9:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Hmmm...I'm a clip user...maybe I should try this new fangled velcro. haha Seriously, I may have to give it a go. Honestly, I've not been too adventuress with trying new bags.

Slice
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   Posted 4/4/2008 6:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Gotta say   yeah     What in the world was i thinking using clips!!   These are easier to clean, more comfortable, and strange enough, doesn't seem to smell AT ALL.  I don't know why, and i'm not asking questions.
   Ostomy nurse put it on me on Monday.  Still have it on and i'm not sure i'll change it. Ok, i will change it.   Just got my new box of the clipless bags.
 
Thats right, not only @ssless, but now clipless.  tongue   
 
Crohn's for what seems like forever
Bagged in August 2006
@ssless as of 11/2007
 
 


flchurchlady
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   Posted 4/4/2008 6:17 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm a fan of the velcro, too. The bag they gave me after surgery had a cheap, plastic clip on it. Well, wouldn't you know, it popped off while I was getting out of bed one day and made a mess all over me and the floor. Luckily, I was alone and was able to clean it up myself. I couldn't wait to get that thing off and put my own bag on that has a velcro closure, which has never failed me. I'm sure the clips on regular bags are much better than the ones they give you after surgery. For the amount of money we pay for surgery, couldn't they spare a few dollars on a better closure?

nene205
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   Posted 4/4/2008 6:53 PM (GMT -6)   
I clicked on the NuHope site because someone said there were pictures of people with hernias on that site. OMG- Mine isn't quite that bad, but I have ordered the elusive belt to shape my stomach up (I hope). Anyway, I signed up for a free bag sample from NuHope while there. Well, a package from NuHope arrived today and I thought it was "the belt"--wrong. It was the free sample--2 bags and one bulky clip!!! I will never use a clip again if I can help it. Velcro is so much better.
Jennie

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   Posted 4/7/2008 2:43 PM (GMT -6)   
justjenjen said...
Hmmm...I'm a clip user...maybe I should try this new fangled velcro. haha Seriously, I may have to give it a go. Honestly, I've not been too adventuress with trying new bags.


new fangled velcro? please Jen, they came out with Velcro before you were born!

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