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picklechic
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   Posted 11/13/2008 1:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi there. My 3 year old daughter with UC has had an ileostomy since August. At preschool today, she accidentally ate 6 kernals on popped popcorn. How will I know if these get stuck? Is there anything special I need to watch for? I know it's not a lot of popcorn and may not cause a problem, but this is the first time she's eaten something off the "no-no list". Thanks in advance for your help!
Kimberly
Mom to 3 year old daughter with UC and Turner's Syndrome
dx. 1/08, s/p total colectomy with ileostomy 8/13/08
 


spongebabe2pants
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   Posted 11/13/2008 3:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Don't worry too much, I've eaten plenty of things that I was worried would cause blockages (I had my ileo done in Aug as well). If she starts complaining of stomach pain and you notice decreased/no output, then you can worry. I was told to go to the ER if I thought I had a blockage, but I've heard people say they can resolve themselves, so that's your call. I hope everything ends up being ok though :)

Ulcerative Colitis since December 2001 (age 15)
in remission for 6 months in 2002 followed by severely active disease
1st j-pouch surgery done on July 30, 2008


Equestrian Mom
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   Posted 11/13/2008 4:06 PM (GMT -6)   
picklechic--have you taught her to chew her food at least 20 times?  Even no no foods can be tolerated to a degree when chewed well...that can really save an ostomate!!  I wouldn't worry too much unless she complains of tummy pains.  I think three is the key word...she didn't eat a bowl full, thank goodness! 

picklechic
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   Posted 11/13/2008 4:33 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't think she's really old enough to know what chewing 20 times really means. She can count to 20 but I don't think she can chew at the same time and do that every bite. I'll just keep an eye on her and make sure she doesn't have any decreased output and is drinking a lot of water. Thanks for your help!
Kimberly
Mom to 3 year old daughter with UC and XY Turner's Syndrome
dx. 1/08, s/p total colectomy with ileostomy 8/13/08
J-pouch surgery in 2009
 


flchurchlady
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   Posted 11/13/2008 6:32 PM (GMT -6)   
She should be fine. The kernels will just come out the same way they went in, and you'll be able to feel them in the pouch. I once had a big vitamin come out whole. :-)
Dx'd Crohn's in '99 at 28. Proctocolectomy and ileostomy in '06.
Disease-free, medicine-free, and very thankful to be healthy again :)


peggy113
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   Posted 11/13/2008 7:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Ditto on the large pills coming out whole!!

I agree with what everyone has already said but I would keep an eye out for them just to be sure that they pass or at least some of them.
Peggy
      
Diagnosed with CD in 1979, many resections and meds
Perm Ileostomy July 1984 at Cleveland Clinic
Disease free since surgery 
 


summerstorm
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   Posted 11/13/2008 9:36 PM (GMT -6)   
yeah that's what i would do, also have her drink extra water for right now, and keep her active, i am sure that's not hard with a 3 year old, i have one of those, lol. but the more active she is the more her tummy will stay active. hope she is alright!

Equestrian Mom
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   Posted 11/15/2008 6:01 AM (GMT -6)   
Kimberly--how is your daughter doing? I am taking it as no news is good news?!!!

redee2moov
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   Posted 11/15/2008 10:20 AM (GMT -6)   
By now I hope the issue resolved itself, but I thought a few comments may help for future. I couldn't tell if you said your daughter ate 6 kernels OF popped popcorn or UN popped popcorn.

I have no experience with ileostomies, but I have some issues with difficulty in digesting such things as popcorn hulls (and tomato seeds, and grape skins, and oatmeal, and definitely beans, and more). It can be extremely uncomfortable and even painful at times (imagine the sharp hulls scraping or lodging in the tender, and sometimes damaged inner walls of the intestinal track). I have less issue now than in the past, but I still limit my intake.

What has helped, along with sufficient chewing, is taking betaine hydrochloride capsuls to increase my stomach acid (prescribed). This attacks the tough jobs in the stomach where it should, so less undigested foods end up in the intestines.

Increasing certain oils in my diet (also with professional guidance) has increased my tolerance of many fibers that gave me trouble for years. I am a fairly thin individual, so the oils that work for me are not necessarily recommended for heavier constitutions.

Climate or season affects my ability to breakdown food as well. The heat of the summer allows me to expand my food list to include more raw foods. The cold of winter (I live in Minnesota) has me eating everything warm including the water I drink. Coolness can inhibit good digestion. And too much undigested food in the gut, even if considered healthy food, like raw vegetables or fiber, can cause all sorts of problems. Some body types are more suseptible to this than others (in fact some body types need to "cool" down their diegestive system. These types have no problem with popcorn hulls.

Adding certain spices to my foods, adds needed heat for better digestion, such as ginger, cinnamon, cloves, turmeric, cumin. But, never the hot spicey, like jalepeno, which is the wrong type of heat for me.

I hope your immediate concern has already passed. I share this information so you can see there are many promising options to consider as you look at your daughter"s future.

Best of luck!
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