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justjenjen
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   Posted 2/21/2009 7:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Have any of you ever had your bag bubble?? The last 3 bags (from 2 different boxes!!!) have bubbled. Somehow bubbles are forming between the layers of the plastic. It is so frustrating!!! I can't figure for the life of me why this is happening. I certainly do not feel confident the bag is gonna hold b/c I feel the bubbles are compromising it. GGRRRR!

Oh--no I have done nothing different--no diet changes, med changes, I haven't changed where/how I store my supplies, etc. I've used these same bags for 3 years now and have never had this happen. I'm just so steamed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm calling the company on Monday. I tried today but of course they're not open.

Equestrian Mom
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   Posted 2/21/2009 7:43 PM (GMT -6)   
justjenjen...yup, it has happened to me too!  Cannot tell you why eyes   I have kept my pouch on with the bubbles, for a few days, and nothing has ever leaked...I think others have mentioned it happens to them.  Let us know what the manufacturer says...I have never called...but maybe I should, too!

slim18996
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   Posted 2/22/2009 10:47 AM (GMT -6)   
I have had the same problem too. I use hollister and it happens down at the tail. They are small and kind of like bubble wrap. Of course being the person I am I have popped them shocked and believe it or not they didn't leak. I know I probably shouldn't have done that but I just can't leave my hands off of anything, LOL.

I did a little research and it seems that most major companies use a process of "stacking" multiple layers of thin plastic to achieve a stronger, thin plastic bag. The bubbles in my situation seem to occur somewhere between two of these layers. The only thing I can associate this phenomenon with is me using peroxide as a deodorizer. When I tried M-9 I had no bubbles, now that I am back to peroxide, the bubbles are back, not every time but I do get them. There may be other sources for the bubbling but for my case it seems to revolve around the peroxide. Not sure if any of this will help but at least you can see you are not alone.

John

Total Colectomy with End Ileostomy May 27th, 2008


Equestrian Mom
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   Posted 2/22/2009 12:06 PM (GMT -6)   
justjenjen--I just thought about the heat from a hair dryer...If it gets too hot, it could cause a bubble between the layers slim mentioned.

praying4healing
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   Posted 2/22/2009 1:08 PM (GMT -6)   
yea i posted about this a while ago, and i pop them too! lol sometimes the bubbles are really big but i dont pop those until im home and know im about to change, just to see if theyd leak if i did. but they havent yet. i dont know what it is tho. i dont use a hairdryer and sometimes i get them when i dont even use peroxide
25 y/o female- crohns disease since 14
Ileostomy pending-very worried
Tried asacol,pentasa,prednisone,remicade,6mp,azasan, no avail
Seatons placed
Worst year ever!

"For God has not given us the spirit of fear....."
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justjenjen
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   Posted 2/22/2009 1:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one witnessing this phenomenon! I've been fixated on the dang things b/c I feel an overwhelming need to pop them but have been afraid I'd weaken the bag. I've always used peroxide and never had this problem--and I don't blow dry either. It's been over 9 yrs with an ostomy and these are the first bubbles I've had. Have any of you seen that movie Dune? I hate it but my hubby loves it--anyway, these bubbles remind me of that fat, bubbly, ***** guy. gggrrrr!!!

vette guy
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   Posted 2/23/2009 1:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Because our current insurance doesn't cover ostomy supplies, I clean and reuse the pouches for a few changings. I know it sounds gross, but hell....those things are expensive! I notice that eventually the plastic brakes down(bubbles) and it's time to throw the pouch out.

justjenjen
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   Posted 2/23/2009 7:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Oooops! Apparently, I was edited! I meant to say the guy had pus coming out from him and I ended the word with the letter Y--sorry!! Didn't mean to write a bad word!!

Well, I use a one piece system so I only have the bag on for a week!!! Vetteguy, you gotta do what ya gotta do!! These things are crazy expensive!! I've paid out of pocket before (I think I was between insurances or some such) but it was awful!!

pepperann27
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   Posted 2/23/2009 10:46 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't think its gross to reuse bags, I do all the time, and I too have had those bubbles and I pop them too, and haven't had problems with the bag.
thanks, Dusti

Diagnosed with colonic inertia at 13 years old, had my colon removed.
Diagnosed with rectal inertia at 16 years old, had my rectum removed and had a jpouch made.
Diagnosed with small bowel inertia at 18 years old, and got an ileostomy wich I still have. I am 27 now.
If you want to know more, just ask me!
"Don't worry about failure, worry about the chances you miss when you don't even try"
 


vette guy
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   Posted 2/23/2009 10:53 PM (GMT -6)   
pepperann27 said...
I don't think its gross to reuse bags, I do all the time, and I too have had those bubbles and I pop them too, and haven't had problems with the bag.

I now have a theory:
Those of us who like to pop the bubbles in our pouches also like to play with "bubble wrap"!!!

pepperann27
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   Posted 2/23/2009 11:32 PM (GMT -6)   
wow, I do love bubble wrap!!
thanks, Dusti

Diagnosed with colonic inertia at 13 years old, had my colon removed.
Diagnosed with rectal inertia at 16 years old, had my rectum removed and had a jpouch made.
Diagnosed with small bowel inertia at 18 years old, and got an ileostomy wich I still have. I am 27 now.
If you want to know more, just ask me!
"Don't worry about failure, worry about the chances you miss when you don't even try"
 


praying4healing
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   Posted 2/24/2009 3:55 PM (GMT -6)   
i love bubble wrap too!
25 y/o female- crohns disease since 14
Ileostomy pending-very worried
Tried asacol,pentasa,prednisone,remicade,6mp,azasan, no avail
Seatons placed
Worst year ever!

"For God has not given us the spirit of fear....."
Where does mine come from?!
 Temp Ileostomy performed 1/29/08
Still Adusting
 Healingwell.com has been my Godsend...Thank you


Equestrian Mom
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   Posted 2/24/2009 6:45 PM (GMT -6)   
okay, I do TOO!!

vette guy
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   Posted 2/24/2009 9:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Told, ya'!!!

justjenjen
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   Posted 2/27/2009 12:53 PM (GMT -6)   
So, I finally called the manufacturer.........

They asked all sorts of questions: bubble size, what day of usage did the bubbles occur, how big were the bubbles, did I use any additives (deodorizer or whatnot) in the pouch, what color my stool is....I was surprised by that question!! Anyway, they are now sending me replacement boxes and I was instructed to Not use the remaining pouches. It was all pretty painless and I'm glad I did. Oh--and of course, I was advised not to use peroxide in my pouch and they have this wonderful deodorizer (m9 drops) and would I like a sample...? Obviously, they are a little clueless how expensive it is to use their M9 drops. Oh well. It was worth it just to get some replacement bags. However, I fear if it happens again they will think I'm just trying to get free stuff out of them.

Sidenote--I did get enough nerve to pop the bubbles. I just couldn't stand it!! I didn't do the ones that were right next to the seam---too chicken.
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