Chinese food and another blockage...

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2 RIS K
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   Posted 3/29/2009 5:38 AM (GMT -6)   
I ate some chinese food last night and now I think I have a blockage. My stomach is so sore at the anastamosis site; it feels like there is a lump sitting there and it even hurts to the touch.  I'm doing all the normal things to help it pass - heating pad, liquid diet - now just hoping it passes before it gets worse.  I do NOT want to have to go to the hospital.  So far no fever, but I can't keep anything down...we'll see what happens.  The doctor always told me to call her if/when I can't keep liquids down but so far that's not a problem.  I'm keeping my fingers crossed it passes on it's own....this is so painful!!
Amanda
35 years old
Chronic Lifetime Constipation
Diagnosed IBS - 1995
Rectal Prolapse - February 2007
Rectosigmoid Colectomy w/low anterior Anastomosis - March 13, 2007
Diagnosed with Colonic Inertia - June 08
Total Colectomy - September 22, 2008
Temporary Ileostomy due to small bowell perforation Septepmber 29, 2008
Ileostomy Reversal - December 15, 2008
Multiple Small Bowel Abscesses-December 22, 2008
Leak at original Anastamosis -December 25, 2008
JP Drain removed - January 23, 2009
Still adjusting to life without my large intestine...
 
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Roddiesgirl
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   Posted 3/29/2009 8:24 AM (GMT -6)   
{{{{Amanda}}}}...big hug for you!   Hopefully it will pass soon if it is a blockage.  What about hot drinks like tea etc...do u think that may help??  Heating pad?? Hot tub??  I am just grasping at straws here.  I hate to see you in pain my friend!  Take good care..........Cheryl

Hysterectomy 1998
Diagnosed IBS 2000
Vaginal Prolapse Surgery 2001
3 Hernia Repairs, 2004
Repeat Vaginal Prolapse Surgery 2006 (the mesh from previous prolapse surgery had let go and fallen into my bowels)...
Removal of mesh from bowels (it was piercing holes all through my bowels and appendix and cecum, causing 2 fistulas and heavy bleeding vaginally and rectally)...mesh was removed, two pieces of large bowel removed and resectioned with a loop ileostomy. 2008
 
I have underlying connective tissue disorder (Ehlers Danloss Syndrome) which is the reason for the two failed surgeries)
 
Ileostomy Reversal March 9/09


PSA
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   Posted 3/29/2009 9:39 AM (GMT -6)   
I can understand your problems as I myself faced them several times. Initially it got stuck in the stoma and had to be irrigated/drained. Later on after the take down I had some blockages which did not resolve for over 3 days till I was given Liquid Paraffin, two teaspoon. It did the miracle and within minutes the drainage/plumbing in my intestines started functioning normally. So please consult your GP about liquid paraffin. I don't think it has any side effects as it is a natural product - medicinal grade paraffin. I am pained to hear that you are in pain because of blockage. Take care.
Should you need any assistance feel free to get back. Keep us posted.
45 years Male
Diagnosed UC October 1989
Had two stage J Pouch Surgery Nov 2005 March 2006
Complications after surgery - Incisional Hernia and Ano Fistulas
on Combiflam, Multivitamins and restricted diet.
Tried Sallaki/Turmeric/Homoepathy/Allopathy/Chinese/Unani/Ayuvedic/Yoga before going for surgery
"Faith is the bird that sings when the dawn is still dark."
"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracl: Albert Einstein
"What you are aware of you are in control of; what you are not aware of is in control of you."
 


flchurchlady
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   Posted 3/29/2009 10:13 AM (GMT -6)   
Oh, Amanda, I have been there and feel your pain! How are you doing now? Has it unblocked itself yet? I hope so! You're in my thoughts and prayers, dear friend.
Cecilia
Dx'd Crohn's in '99 at 28. Proctocolectomy and ileostomy in '06.
Disease-free, medicine-free, and very thankful to be healthy again.


peggy113
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   Posted 3/29/2009 12:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Amanda - Any better yet? I too feel your pain and know just what you are going thru. Yep, I watch eating a LOT of chinese veggies.. though I do love them. Bamboo shoots are esp. hard for me to digest, and the cooked napa cabbage digests just like cooked spinach. What did you have to eat? Maybe we can brainstory together and pinpoint exactly what has caused the blockage?

PSA Delhi - I have never heard about liquid paraffin for blockages. Please explain it for me. Does it have to be done at the hospital? Is it by prescription only? How do you use it?
Peggy
      
Diagnosed with CD in 1979, many resections and meds
Perm Ileostomy July 1984 at Cleveland Clinic
Disease free since surgery 
 


ElliUK
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   Posted 3/29/2009 12:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, I wish you all the best. I have only had my Ileostomy for a couple of weeks and am missing chinese food (its my fav, was the last meal I had before my bowel prep for suregery!!). Was it a lot of veggies in the food that did it? I spoke to my stoma nurse about having chinese sauce and white rice with some chicken and she seemed to think it would be OK.

I do hope you are feeling better soon.

2 RIS K
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   Posted 3/29/2009 3:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, I still have the blockage. We had ordered the "dinner for 2" and so we had several things and I'm not sure which one it was. I had a little of everything. We shared an egg roll, crab rangoon, beef and broccoli, sweet and sour pork and pork fried rice (which had green onions in it). Who knows which one of those dangerous foods it could have been?? Oh yeah, and they also brought us a salad to start with...yep, I was just asking for it. Still very miserable!!!!

I too have never heard of liquid paraffin but I go to the surgeon on Tuesday for another follow up so I'll ask her about it. Hopefully the blockage will have resolved itself by then...I can only hope!
Amanda
35 years old
Chronic Lifetime Constipation
Diagnosed IBS - 1995
Rectal Prolapse - February 2007
Rectosigmoid Colectomy w/low anterior Anastomosis - March 13, 2007
Diagnosed with Colonic Inertia - June 08
Total Colectomy - September 22, 2008
Temporary Ileostomy due to small bowell perforation Septepmber 29, 2008
Ileostomy Reversal - December 15, 2008
Multiple Small Bowel Abscesses-December 22, 2008
Leak at original Anastamosis -December 25, 2008
JP Drain removed - January 23, 2009
Still adjusting to life without my large intestine...
 
The whole world is at your feet; so paint your toenails Red!
 


flchurchlady
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   Posted 3/29/2009 8:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Amanda,
I'm so sorry your romantic "dinner for 2" turned into this. sad I just Googled "liquid paraffin" and it's another name for mineral oil. I've never thought to take it, or any other type of laxative, for a blockage, but it makes sense. I just wanted to pass this along, in case you're still blocked and want to give it a try.
Cecilia
Dx'd Crohn's in '99 at 28. Proctocolectomy and ileostomy in '06.
Disease-free, medicine-free, and very thankful to be healthy again.


peggy113
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   Posted 3/29/2009 11:19 PM (GMT -6)   

Amanda,

Hope you are feeling better.  Your dinner sounded great, but I bet you wish you didn't eat it now!  Makes me so mad when I get a partial blockage, esp when I figure out what could have caused it.  Then I boycott that food item for the longest time!!!

Sounds like the combination of salad, eggroll (shredded cabbage/carrots), and then brocolli could have been the culprit.  I really doubt if the green onions in the fried rice could have caused it.  What were the very first things you ate?  The salad and eggroll?  On a fairly empty stomach probably? 

Keep trying to move around -- drink fluids to stay hydrated, heating pad and massage your belly. 

 


Peggy
      
Diagnosed with CD in 1979, many resections and meds
Perm Ileostomy July 1984 at Cleveland Clinic
Disease free since surgery 
 


2much2bear
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   Posted 3/30/2009 3:38 AM (GMT -6)   
oh amanda, i was told if the pain goes on for more than a couple of hours then to go to the ER straightaway.  i hope this morning finds you ok though. x

Karen 47 yrs
1997: Diagnosed IBS
2003: Pelvic floor repair surgery (rectocele/cystocele)
2006: STARR surgery for mucosal prolapse/Obstruction
2006: Diagnosed with slow transit constipation
2007: Sigmoid resection because of partial volvulus resulting in immediate colonic inertia
 
15 JANUARY 2009: scheduled for T/C
12 FEBRUARY 2009 - Re-scheduled T/C- (postponed as the Professor is away)
10 MARCH 2009 - T/C HORRAY FOR A CANCELLATION!
Loop Ileostomy - Due for reversal around June 2009
 


2 RIS K
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   Posted 3/30/2009 5:55 AM (GMT -6)   
I am doing much better now! Don't yell, but last night I made chili for my in-laws who came for dinner and I ate some of that. It was spicy and so good and about a half hour after eating it I was able to go to the bathroom. Talk about a natural laxative!! It was scary! I am a little sore still this morning so I'm wondering if not all of it came out, but I know a LOT did. It was really explosive too and I had horrible pains right before it. Probably not the smartest thing to do but I couldn't resist. I love chili! I even won an award for my chili last year so I just HAD to eat some, ya know? And of course I had to taste it while I was making it....excuses, excuses....
Amanda
35 years old
Chronic Lifetime Constipation
Diagnosed IBS - 1995
Rectal Prolapse - February 2007
Rectosigmoid Colectomy w/low anterior Anastomosis - March 13, 2007
Diagnosed with Colonic Inertia - June 08
Total Colectomy - September 22, 2008
Temporary Ileostomy due to small bowell perforation Septepmber 29, 2008
Ileostomy Reversal - December 15, 2008
Multiple Small Bowel Abscesses-December 22, 2008
Leak at original Anastamosis -December 25, 2008
JP Drain removed - January 23, 2009
Still adjusting to life without my large intestine...
 
The whole world is at your feet; so paint your toenails Red!
 


2much2bear
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   Posted 3/30/2009 7:27 AM (GMT -6)   
just good to know all is well - be careful with some of the chinese food - it is known for causing blockages. x
Karen 47 yrs
1997: Diagnosed IBS
2003: Pelvic floor repair surgery (rectocele/cystocele)
2006: STARR surgery for mucosal prolapse/Obstruction
2006: Diagnosed with slow transit constipation
2007: Sigmoid resection because of partial volvulus resulting in immediate colonic inertia
 
15 JANUARY 2009: scheduled for T/C
12 FEBRUARY 2009 - Re-scheduled T/C- (postponed as the Professor is away)
10 MARCH 2009 - T/C HORRAY FOR A CANCELLATION!
Loop Ileostomy - Due for reversal around June 2009
 


ElliUK
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   Posted 3/30/2009 1:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow! all that chinese food, then followed up with a spicy chili!! You are brave with your food choices!!
I am pleased to hear you are feeling better - the clostest thing I have had to a blockage is when everything just shut down for a few hours and it was most painful. I chose coffee though - have to call the chili plan B!!!
I read your signiture (sorry to ask, still new to decoding them all!) do you currently have a j-pouch or a ileostomy? Do you know if one is more able to handle those types of food better than another?

awesomeame
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   Posted 3/30/2009 7:02 PM (GMT -6)   
I had probs with chinese food as well, so now I just stay away from it! As for chilli-I just omit the beans and double the meat lol.

Matt
Dec 2006: Proctocolectomy/permanent ileostomy
Since 1991: Indeterminate crohn's/ulserative colitis


pepperann27
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   Posted 3/30/2009 10:05 PM (GMT -6)   
I love Chinese food. It could have been the broccoli, I've gotten blocked with broccoli a couple different times.
I'm glad you're feeling better!
thanks, Dusti

Diagnosed with colonic inertia at 13 years old, had my colon removed.
Diagnosed with rectal inertia at 16 years old, had my rectum removed and had a jpouch made.
Diagnosed with small bowel inertia at 18 years old, and got an ileostomy wich I still have. I am 27 now.
If you want to know more, just ask me!
"Don't worry about failure, worry about the chances you miss when you don't even try"
 


PSA
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   Posted 3/30/2009 11:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Peggy sorry for the delayed response.
Liquid Paraffin acts by softening and lubricating the faeces. The faeces can then move more easily through the bowel. By doing this it relieves constipation and reduces the pain of some conditions such as piles (haemorrhoids).
For the temporary relief of constipation

Liquid Paraffin is a laxative and lubricant. It lubricates and softens the stools and helps produce bowel movements. Generally in UK and India medical supervision is not required for sale of this item.



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Do not exceed the stated dose

Not recommended for children under 3 years of age.

Avoid prolonged use

Consult your doctor if laxatives are needed every day, if you have persistent abdominal pain or a condition that makes swallowing difficult

Do not use if you are sensitive to Liquid Paraffin, pregnant or breast feeding, except on the doctor's advice. Ask your doctor before use if you have persistent abdominal pain, a condition that makes swallowing difficult or you need to use laxatives every day, as these may be symptoms of a more serious disease. Liquid Paraffin may affect the uptake of some vitamin supplements by the body. If unsure ask the doctor.
45 years Male
Diagnosed UC October 1989
Had two stage J Pouch Surgery Nov 2005 March 2006
Complications after surgery - Incisional Hernia and Ano Fistulas
on Combiflam, Multivitamins and restricted diet.
Tried Sallaki/Turmeric/Homoepathy/Allopathy/Chinese/Unani/Ayuvedic/Yoga before going for surgery
"Faith is the bird that sings when the dawn is still dark."
"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracl: Albert Einstein
"What you are aware of you are in control of; what you are not aware of is in control of you."
 


peggy113
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   Posted 3/31/2009 9:40 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello PSA,
 
Someone else posted that it was like mineral oil?  I just never had heard of liquid paraffin.  Thanks for the information/explanation.  I seem to learn something new from this board all of the time!
 
Peggy
      
Diagnosed with CD in 1979, many resections and meds
Perm Ileostomy July 1984 at Cleveland Clinic
Disease free since surgery 
 


PSA
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   Posted 3/31/2009 9:56 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello Peggy

In so far as mineral oil is concerned, it is also known as Castor Oil (oil from castor seeds). Castor Oil is also used to treating severe constipation. Liquid Paraffin is also listed in the category of mineral oils on some search engines.
45 years Male
Diagnosed UC October 1989
Had two stage J Pouch Surgery Nov 2005 March 2006
Complications after surgery - Incisional Hernia and Ano Fistulas
on Combiflam, Multivitamins and restricted diet.
Tried Sallaki/Turmeric/Homoepathy/Allopathy/Chinese/Unani/Ayuvedic/Yoga before going for surgery
"Faith is the bird that sings when the dawn is still dark."
"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracl: Albert Einstein
"What you are aware of you are in control of; what you are not aware of is in control of you."
 


Bella_lostmybag
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   Posted 3/31/2009 12:23 PM (GMT -6)   
The stoma nurse sent me home with a sheet full of things that can block my stoma and crab and lobster were on it so maybe it was the crab. And I know what when i eat brocolli it comes out really fast and hard like theres a HUGE amount of force pushing it out and it comes out in big bulks.. So maybe it couldve been that too =( But ahh i dont think anything could stop me from eating my seafood ahaha
17, SENIOR in high school
Dx with Ulcerative Colitis on March 18,2008
Step1 Ileostomy on Nov.19,2008..waiting on Step2 =]
"The past is history, the future is a mystery. Today is a gift, that's why it's called the present"


2 RIS K
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   Posted 3/31/2009 5:35 PM (GMT -6)   
The crab never even occurred to me! Thanks for that!! I'm going to keep that one in mind for next time too...
Amanda
35 years old
Chronic Lifetime Constipation
Diagnosed IBS - 1995
Rectal Prolapse - February 2007
Rectosigmoid Colectomy w/low anterior Anastomosis - March 13, 2007
Diagnosed with Colonic Inertia - June 08
Total Colectomy - September 22, 2008
Temporary Ileostomy due to small bowell perforation Septepmber 29, 2008
Ileostomy Reversal - December 15, 2008
Multiple Small Bowel Abscesses-December 22, 2008
Leak at original Anastamosis -December 25, 2008
JP Drain removed - January 23, 2009
Still adjusting to life without my large intestine...
 
The whole world is at your feet; so paint your toenails Red!
 


flchurchlady
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   Posted 3/31/2009 8:22 PM (GMT -6)   
The next time I have a food blockage, I'll have to remember the 3 C's - Coffee, Castor Oil, and Chili!!  tongue
Cecilia
Dx'd Crohn's in '99 at 28. Proctocolectomy and ileostomy in '06.
Disease-free, medicine-free, and very thankful to be healthy again.


Equestrian Mom
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   Posted 4/1/2009 5:50 AM (GMT -6)   
Shrimp is another one you have to chew well...
 
Cecilia, what a combination shocked
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