COVEX WAFER AND EAKIN USERS!!!!

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glaciergrl
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   Posted 5/21/2009 9:57 PM (GMT -6)   
So I have been using the convex wafer now for about a week. The ostomy nurse said I don't need an eakin anymore, then I got a leak. So I figured since many of you use both I would try it. It is working pretty well for the most part. I have gone almost 3 days which is better than last weekend when I went through 3 changes!!!
 
Anyways, I am wondering if you put your eakin on first and then your wafer? or if you put your eakin on your wafer and then put it on? Does it matter much? I have been putting my eakin on, then the wafer and it sticks to my fingers so badly...I just want to try and maximize the time between changes. Its a chore to change, I don't mind that much but I think my skin does!!!
 
Any insight at all would be GREATLY APPRECIATED! This is a lot harder than I thought it was going to be. I think I am going to opt for reversal asap! Even if that means not teaching summer school:(...
 
 
Holly
25yrs old/ teacher/ Wisconsin

Diagnosed UC Pancolitis in Nov 2004
Diagnosed PSC in Oct 2006


glaciergrl
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   Posted 5/21/2009 9:57 PM (GMT -6)   
I meant convex...sorry its so late...I can't spell!
25yrs old/ teacher/ Wisconsin

Diagnosed UC Pancolitis in Nov 2004
Diagnosed PSC in Oct 2006


XtremeMisery
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   Posted 5/21/2009 10:16 PM (GMT -6)   

I put my eakin seal on first and wrap it like a scarf where most of my leaks had happened.....some do the other way, but i feel more somfortable and the i hold for 15 seconds. I go 3-4 days, i could probably go longer....but i am meticulous clean. I am having eating issues, i hate output....they are sending me to a psychologist since i lost 23 -24 lbs sine i last saw my surgeon. i wish you the best.

lizzie


Chronic Lifetime Constipation, Dx IBS-C for 7 yrs
Diagnosed Colonic Inertia-Oct 2007
Total Colectomy with ileorectal anastamosis- Jan 28, 2008
Ileus with suspected leak- Feb 1, 2008, ended with four abdomal abscessses and 2 drains
Four abdominal abscesses- Feb 2008
Diagnosed with small bowel Fistula- March 6 2008
Drains removed- End of March 2008
Continued Constipation- biofeedback for 3 mo Aug 2008, Dx Rectal Inertia
Admitted with Small Bowel Obsruction April 4, 2009 and eremgency ileostomy 4/13
Loop ileostomy April 13, 2009 and still recovering woth abdominal abscesses out 4/24
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Equestrian Mom
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   Posted 5/22/2009 4:33 AM (GMT -6)   

Holly--it is really just personal preference scool    I use the entire ES...keeping it in donut form...I make it smaller to fit my stoma, apply to wafer and apply to my skin.  I usually only touch the outer edges of the seal so I don't get the 'sticky' issue.

I don't follow everything my WOCN has told me to do...I've found better ways, for me, throughout the years and just do what works for me...so, for you, if that means using an ES, DO IT tongue


dilatante
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   Posted 5/22/2009 8:40 AM (GMT -6)   
I put the eakin's ring on the wafer, before applying the wafer. I didn't put it around the entire opening, and where I had the most problems with leaks, I would roll the leftover eakins, into a mini snake, and put it there. Then spray the whole appliance with spray adhesive, with a piece of paper towel stuck in the opening, to prevent that from adhering where it shouldn't.

glaciergrl
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   Posted 5/23/2009 4:05 PM (GMT -6)   
how does the spray work for you dilatante?
25yrs old/ teacher/ Wisconsin

Diagnosed UC Pancolitis in Nov 2004
Diagnosed PSC in Oct 2006


Formula1female
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   Posted 5/24/2009 10:14 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Everyone
I just joined the site and am from the UK. I use Eakin seals called Cohesive Slims here. They come in ring formation and are quite sticky to touch, but much better than the pastes you can get. They come sandwiched between 2 circles of paper, shiny side inwards so the seal doesn't stick. I heat the seal between my thighs and then mould it so it is thinner. I remove the paper circles and mould it a bit more and make the centre hole bigger. I then place it directly to the back of my bag (or wafer) and having applied barrier (Cavilon spray) and let it dry, then place my bag over my stoma. This process works really well for me and I hope it helps others. I have mad a template for my stoma, so my bags fit quite well, but I guess this process may not be so successful if you have an irregular shaped stoma.

Ali
As a child, knee probs (patella tendon transfers and knee cap removal)
Endometriosis from age 18 and bowel problems diagnosed as IBS!
8 Laparotomies and numerous Laparoscopies
IVF x 2 (unsuccessful)
Hysterectomy and both ovaries removed in 90 (27yrs old)
Gastro Intestinal Neuromyopathy diagnosed in 91 (known as pseudo obstruction syndrome/slow transit)
Sigmoid and Left Hemi Colectomy in 95. Resulted in 5 yrs of relief!!!!!!!!
Probs started again in 2000, getting worse and worse
Diagnosed with Lupus in Nov 2006 (which they say could be to blame for all this misery!)
Loop ileo in Dec 08 (not sure how it can be slow transit as everything passes through in less than 1 hr!  Still have full feling in upper gut though!)
Now considering IRA!!!!!  Need advise please!  Thx :-)
 
 


nene205
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   Posted 5/24/2009 2:21 PM (GMT -6)   
 I use a barrier wipe first, then the eakin seal (the whole doughnut), then the flange.  After holding the whole thing down for a least 30 seconds., I blow a few seconds of warm hair from my hair dryer on the paper tape. I can go for a week or better without a leak. However, everyone is different. Only trial and error works the best.

Pibbin
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   Posted 5/24/2009 3:03 PM (GMT -6)   
I apply the adapt ring (different brand than eakin, same concept) directly to the wafer, pinch both all around the wafer opening to make a nice tight seal, then apply to belly, attach pouch, and press it all for a couple of minutes to warm. Knock on wood, haven't had a leak since I switched to convex, and I get 6-7 days wear time.
Dx Mild Proctitis 7/06 at age 33, Dx Severe Pan Colitis 5/07, Dx Crohn's Colitis 10/07
Failed Asacol, Lialda, 6-MP, Canasa, Rowasa, Proctofoam, Entocort, Remicade, Humira
10/10/08 colon removed, temporary ileostomy
11/10/08 FINALLY off prednisone after 18 months
2nd of 3 surgeries planned for '09 to form j-pouch


glaciergrl
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   Posted 5/24/2009 7:17 PM (GMT -6)   
thanks so much! I got 5 days this week! I am EXCITED!!!!!! Thanks everyone!
25yrs old/ teacher/ Wisconsin

Diagnosed UC Pancolitis in Nov 2004
Diagnosed PSC in Oct 2006

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