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summerstorm
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   Posted 5/31/2009 7:12 PM (GMT -6)   
im going on vacation this weekend, woo hoo, and intend to spend lots of time in the hottub, lol.
I know the wafer will be fine, but i am going to put the sure seals on so i dont have to take so much time to dry it
How do you think the sure seal will hold up in the hot tub?

Equestrian Mom
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   Posted 5/31/2009 7:48 PM (GMT -6)   
I think they'll hold up fine...mine have been doing great and the humidity in Ohio is increasing and no sign of the seal coming 'un-glued' so to speak. I be interested to hear how they do!!

summerstorm
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   Posted 5/31/2009 8:15 PM (GMT -6)   
oh good i was hoping you would answer, you are our resident sure seal expert!
I will let you know when i get back how they do!

sammies
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   Posted 5/31/2009 9:54 PM (GMT -6)   
having trouble understanding how the sure seal works. Can you help? How do you apply it and where? I seriously read a few things and just don't get it. thank you!!
24+ years with Crohn's/colitis; fistulizing crohn's; ileostomy and proctocolectomy; propranolol and xanax; been on a ton of crohn's meds; praying to get through each day.


summerstorm
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   Posted 6/1/2009 9:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Yeah i always put mine on standing up and i cut it at one end so i can put it on like that.

Sammies-I will try to explain.
I dont know what country you are in, so this may have a different name. But do you know what saran wrap or shrink wrap is? Its like a thinner version of what ziploc bags are made of (i swear i am not talking down to anyone, but i know things have diff names in other countries and it can be hard to figure stuff out!)
Ok and it comes in this shape that is a good bit bigger than your flange. And on one side it has liek a clear cover, and the other side has a backing.
Anyway, you take the paper backing off and put the sure seal thing over your flange, that side is sticky. then you pull the clear stuff off and it leaves lke a saran wrap film over the cloth part of your flange, so that when you get wet, the waterruns off, insted of everything getting wet.
Its so hard to explain those things!

Equestrian Mom
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   Posted 6/1/2009 6:45 PM (GMT -6)   

summerstorm!  I think you got that reversed!!! shocked    The plastic cover side has the 'sticky' part...

A sure seal basically protects the wafer tape from water...it's breathable and waterproof...kinda like Gore-Tex for ostomies!!!

Here's what I do...I trim my wafer so it is smaller than the sure seal (I use Convatec now and the paper part of the wafer is TOO BIG), that way I can leave the sure seal in a ring.  I have an uneven stomach so I have to pull areas level to get a good seal (NASCARon I think it is similar to your issue).  Before I put on my pouch, I take the plastic cover off the sure seal (try not to touch the sticky part...especially the edges) and center it on my wafer (I pull my stomach to make it flat) and when I am sure I have it in contact I pull off the the paper part (which doesn't have any sticky to it)...any 'bubbles' I may have I pull my skin flat and push down on the 'bubble' with my other hand and I can usually get a good seal...they are stretchy so they will 'adjust' to any application errors.

I find my wafer tape will last at least two days longer since it doesn't get wet...they aren't the easiest to get the hang of and it's taken me many modifications but I finally have it where it does work well turn   

 


summerstorm
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   Posted 6/1/2009 8:16 PM (GMT -6)   
lol ooops! i tried anyway,i told you those things are hard for me to explain.

Do you find its harder to get your bag snapped on after you put the seal on though? It seems like my fingers slip on it

Equestrian Mom
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   Posted 6/2/2009 4:12 AM (GMT -6)   
No, I haven't had an issue with that...I just try to apply it fast before I have any output! That is my hardest issue:)

Chasblah
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   Posted 6/2/2009 10:35 PM (GMT -6)   
I pull the bag through the hole in the seal and work them on that way.
I took a very hot bath last night and wore one. Worked great!
Chassity
28 yrs. old. married with one beautiful daughter (born 11/20/07)
-diagnosed with severe pancolitis u/c 2002 had total colectomy 12/19/08; emergency surgery due to abscess-had to redo ileostomy and switch to left side 12/25/08; 2/15/09 found blood clot in superior mesenteric vein (prob. from inf. and surgery inflammation)
coumadin, prenatal vit.
(temporary ileostomy....maybe)

"Things turn out the best for those who make the best of the way things turn out."


summerstorm
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   Posted 6/3/2009 10:56 AM (GMT -6)   
so it lasted through a hot bath? thats a good sign

sammies
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   Posted 6/3/2009 3:06 PM (GMT -6)   
thanks for all the info! I called active lifestyle and left a message asking for samples. I hope they call back soon. I asked for both the medium and standard. Right now, I'm using two different bags--on2 with 2 1/4 and one with 1 3/4 opening. Which goes with which?
24+ years with Crohn's/colitis; fistulizing crohn's; ileostomy and proctocolectomy; propranolol and xanax; been on a ton of crohn's meds; praying to get through each day.


Equestrian Mom
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   Posted 6/3/2009 4:47 PM (GMT -6)   
I use a 1 3/4 wafer/flange and use a small sure seal...I used to use the large, cut it in half, fiddle and fuss and make it work...I didn't realize I bought the wrong size!!! Now I just trim the edges of my Convatec wafer/flange so it will fit under the sure seal without any issues...haven't had any problems and get great wear time:) Last one was six days and I could have gone longer but I had the time to change it so I did!!

summerstorm
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   Posted 6/7/2009 7:07 PM (GMT -6)   
well this is how it went, lol.

We were in there for 4 hours and there was way tooo much chlorine and now none of us have any skin, lol.
There was so much chlorine that it ate through the sure seal and was eating at the plastic on the bag.
So, at 2am last night after i got out i had to change the WHOLE thing, i have no idea how i even managed to do it! I have little memory of it, lol.

So, i think the sure seal would have been ok if there hadnt been so much chlorine in the water and if we hadnt stayed in there so long.
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