Dove moisturizing body wash...stay away!!!

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awesomeame
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   Posted 8/8/2009 3:03 AM (GMT -6)   
So took a shower today, changed the bag, then did some stuff around the place and got all sweaty. Decided to take another shower and gave "Dove deep moisturizing body wash" a try. I get out and as I'm toweling off I can actually see my flange starting to come off...MOFO!! Had to change the whole schbang again. First time this has ever happened to me, first time I've used a body wash. Teach me to leave the girly stuff alone from now on lol. So just a headsup on this stuff, stay away!!

Matt
Dec 2006: Proctocolectomy/permanent ileostomy
Since 1991: Indeterminate crohn's/ulserative colitis


summerstorm
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   Posted 8/8/2009 10:50 AM (GMT -6)   
lol yeah real men dont use dove! (sorry had to say it, lol)

No really that stuff is just evil all around, i break out like crazy anytime i get near dove soap.

i do get sad though soetimes cause i had this grape scented shower soap that i cant use anymore. But oh well

Lyonene
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   Posted 8/8/2009 1:08 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm an Ivory girl. :-)

Thankfully, my Avon banana coconut body wash is fine on the rare day I use it, as is my Soft Sense grapefruit wash. Both smell great and haven't affected the flange at all.

Sorry about your Dove experience!

summerstorm
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   Posted 8/8/2009 1:20 PM (GMT -6)   
i couldnt use ivory it made my wafer come off My ET said it was one of the worst which i thought was weird since its 99.94 percent pure, lol.

my grape stuff is avon, maybe i can use it!

awesomeame
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   Posted 8/8/2009 2:08 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm at my parents place now, and they were out of my shampoo. Went all over to look for my stuff, apparently it's now been discontinued. So I thought to try "life" brand dandruff shampoo for normal hair. Took the darn flange right off. Not as fast as the dove stuff, but off just the same. So stay away from that stuff too. Been an expensive week in the flange/bag dept for me, yikes!!

So what does everyone USE for shampoo since mine has been discontinued??? I need a dandruff version. Should be good for a couple weeks yet, but then.....

Matt

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Pitz
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   Posted 8/8/2009 5:30 PM (GMT -6)   
Well, I'm such a newbie at this (just had surgery in June) that I cover up my pouch when showering. I take a ziploc bag (quart size), leave it zipped, and cut from the zip to the end of the bag (got the idea in the hospital, but it didn't work then). I slip my bag in the ziploc and use waterproof tape around it. I'm not comfortable showering with my bag off, and when it gets wet I hate standing there with the hairdryer and drying it off. (I use Hollister New Image beige bags.) So I'm able to use whatever shampoo and soap I want! It's a bit of a hassle at times, but it works for me!

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summerstorm
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   Posted 8/8/2009 5:49 PM (GMT -6)   
Matt-maybe im missing something but why is your shampoo near your flange?

Lyonene
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   Posted 8/8/2009 9:21 PM (GMT -6)   
When my skin and scalp are flaring I use Selsun Blue. I hate the new and "improved" formula they went with a few years ago but that's irrelevant. It hasn't affected my wear time at all.

PS: I also use raspberry Avon body wash with no problems. I forgot about that one. I bought another scent when I bought the banana coconut but I haven't tried it yet since this one smells so great. I'll try it tomorrow and let you know. I just put it in the shower to remind me; it's papaya and kiwi.

Shaz032
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   Posted 8/8/2009 10:38 PM (GMT -6)   
I use my favourite moisturising shampoos/shower gels/soaps, etc without a problem. Just make sure you cleanse the area around your stoma well with warm water to remove any remaining moisturising properties. It works for me :)
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awesomeame
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   Posted 8/9/2009 5:29 AM (GMT -6)   
summerstorm said...
Matt-maybe im missing something but why is your shampoo near your flange?


Well you see my head is higher then my stoma and this whole gravity thing makes the shampoo run downwards lol. Do you have some contraption you hang upside down from so this doesn't happen?? harhar :)

Matt
Dec 2006: Proctocolectomy/permanent ileostomy
Since 1991: Indeterminate crohn's/ulserative colitis


summerstorm
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   Posted 8/9/2009 11:27 AM (GMT -6)   
lol no, but my shampoo doesnt run down onto my belly!
it runs down my back!

babygirl10150
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   Posted 8/9/2009 5:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Pitz said...
Well, I'm such a newbie at this (just had surgery in June) that I cover up my pouch when showering. I take a ziploc bag (quart size), leave it zipped, and cut from the zip to the end of the bag (got the idea in the hospital, but it didn't work then). I slip my bag in the ziploc and use waterproof tape around it. I'm not comfortable showering with my bag off, and when it gets wet I hate standing there with the hairdryer and drying it off. (I use Hollister New Image beige bags.) So I'm able to use whatever shampoo and soap I want! It's a bit of a hassle at times, but it works for me!


If you use a two piece system like I do, I have one bag just for showering. When I'm done, I put my other bag back on and put the wet one under the sink to dry. Just an idea.

Lyonene
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   Posted 8/9/2009 7:19 PM (GMT -6)   
The Avon papaya kiwi body wash also worked well today. And it smells good, too! I'll have to order the vanilla next -- it's my favourite scent.

Heather

sparkn
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   Posted 8/12/2009 3:14 AM (GMT -6)   
I have the same problem with the dove body wash... I use a Burts Bees bdy wash, orange Ginger I think. Also, what is a sure seal?
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Pitz
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   Posted 8/12/2009 10:29 AM (GMT -6)   
NASCARon -

So if I understand this correctly, you put your wafer on, then put the sure seal on top of that and then the bag? This might be something I want to look into. I had my surgery in June and have had some leakage problems. I'm doing better now with using convex wafers and rings with Osto-Bond cement. This sure could have helped me earlier. My leaks all seem to happen in the same place, hence the convex supplies.

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sparkn
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   Posted 8/13/2009 12:52 AM (GMT -6)   
Can't wait to try the sure seal.... I hate showering and swimming because of the wet flange....thanks for the advice/suggestion!
Crohn's Disease since 1991, 2 rounds of ng tube feeding, Ileostomy since 1993, Proctectomy in 1997, several resectionings & stoma revisions, many blockages and a few abscesses and surgery to remove them. Medications used at one point...prednisone, 6MP, Flagyl, Asacol, Pentasa, Imuran, Cipro, Rowasa, Cortifoam, Methotrexate


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Pitz
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   Posted 8/13/2009 6:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks, Ron. That sounds like something I might like to try. I just may order some next time I place an order so I can try them.

Ulcerative Pancolitis (dx'd 6/2002)
Colectomy w/ileostomy 6/2/09; iron infusions; Aranesp injection every week for anemia;
Remicade; Pentasa; 6-MP; Prednisone; Lialda; Asacol
various meds for other conditions


Equestrian Mom
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   Posted 8/13/2009 6:51 PM (GMT -6)   
I give Sure Seals two thumbs up, too!! They don't eliminate leaks (I'd go to an Eakin Seal if you aren't already using them) but they do help with the wafer wear time and keep the "paper" part from getting wet...which is wonderful during the summer months!

summerstorm has a recent post regarding them, too, if you want to read that:
http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=33&m=1554729

I use the small, but trim the edges of my wafer "tape/paper" so I know it will fit under the Sure Seal. It's one of those things that everyone has their own tricks.

awesomeame
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   Posted 8/27/2009 5:13 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't really want to get yet another product (ie sure seal)....especially when I know there are shampoos out there that don't give me any issues! They just keep discontinuing them on me haha. I recently tried "exact dry scalp." NO good either, loosened the glue. But I ***HAVE*** learned that when trying new products, do it on days you need to change the bag anyways...then you're not using anything extra

Matt
Dec 2006: Proctocolectomy/permanent ileostomy
Since 1991: Indeterminate crohn's/ulserative colitis


summerstorm
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   Posted 8/27/2009 6:06 PM (GMT -6)   
matt, maybe this is stupid, but when i wash my hair i lean my head back, so that way the shampoo doesnt run down onto my stomach. I dont do that just for that reason but thats the way i have always done it.
Maybe if you do that it will keep it from getting on you at all.

awesomeame
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   Posted 8/28/2009 5:22 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm thinking I'm just going to try using handsoap to wash my hair lol. Not that there's much there, maybe 1/2" in length at the longest point

Matt
Dec 2006: Proctocolectomy/permanent ileostomy
Since 1991: Indeterminate crohn's/ulserative colitis


summerstorm
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   Posted 8/28/2009 9:59 PM (GMT -6)   
that would be fine, except it can dry out your hair if you arent careful. Maybe you could do that and on change days use a good condtioner.
This is tottally random (but i been drinking, lol) but i used to have a boyfriend who used shampoo to wash his whole body, he said there was no need for two things, lol

Lyonene
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   Posted 8/29/2009 3:37 AM (GMT -6)   
I only ask because my husband doesn't shower the same way I do but do you face the water or away from it to rinse your hair?

Until I met my husband it never even occurred to me that someone would face the water to rinse. The water definitely goes over his stomach rather than his back though. Facing away from the water gets next to nothing on your stomach in my experience. Anyone?

Which way are you facing?

awesomeame
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   Posted 9/3/2009 6:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Lyonene said...
When my skin and scalp are flaring I use Selsun Blue. I hate the new and "improved" formula they went with a few years ago but that's irrelevant. It hasn't affected my wear time at all.

PS: I also use raspberry Avon body wash with no problems. I forgot about that one. I bought another scent when I bought the banana coconut but I haven't tried it yet since this one smells so great. I'll try it tomorrow and let you know. I just put it in the shower to remind me; it's papaya and kiwi.


Which selsun blue are you using? There are like 4 different formulations..?

Matt
Dec 2006: Proctocolectomy/permanent ileostomy
Since 1991: Indeterminate crohn's/ulserative colitis


Lyonene
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   Posted 9/3/2009 9:33 PM (GMT -6)   
awesomeame said...
Lyonene said...
When my skin and scalp are flaring I use Selsun Blue. I hate the new and "improved" formula they went with a few years ago but that's irrelevant. It hasn't affected my wear time at all.

PS: I also use raspberry Avon body wash with no problems. I forgot about that one. I bought another scent when I bought the banana coconut but I haven't tried it yet since this one smells so great. I'll try it tomorrow and let you know. I just put it in the shower to remind me; it's papaya and kiwi.


Which selsun blue are you using? There are like 4 different formulations..?

Matt

It has a dark red/orange lid. I'm in the hospital right now and don't have the actual bottle with me, just a smaller travel size bottle.  The word "revitalize" is jumping to mind.  Is that one of the formulations? If so, that'd be the one.
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