To paste or not to paste...that is the question...

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Allison77
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   Posted 12/20/2009 11:31 PM (GMT -6)   
I've been having some serious leakage problems around the wafer (waste getting under and sitting on my skin) and some of my home nurses (I have home nurses coming in every Mon,Wed and Fri to help with changing and packing...yuck) have said paste is good and other's have said I don't need to use paste. Everybody seems to be giving me a different opinion. Im wondering, do I just need to listen to what my skin is telling me and do what works best for me?
 
-Allie
-Allison
RX Crohn's 1999, over 30 surgeries, 3 strokes, permanent colostomy and rectum removal.
 
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Shaz032
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   Posted 12/21/2009 5:21 AM (GMT -6)   
I don't use paste - I find Eakin Seals heaps better. They have skin healing properties in them and best of all - no alcohol to sting sore excoriated skin! Seals are a lot less messy to deal with as well.

However, you may find you need neither. Experiment a little. Everyone's skin needs are different so you might be one of the lucky ones who find you can do without it :)
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esoR
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   Posted 12/21/2009 9:52 AM (GMT -6)   
Eakin Seals get my vote too. Rosemary

summerstorm
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   Posted 12/21/2009 9:52 AM (GMT -6)   
i use paste, and i make a lovely mess out of it every once in a while too,but other than that i find it helps! i havent been able to figure out eakin seals yet
UC for 8 years, before finally kicking its butt and having a permanent ileostomy April 17 2007! 
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Amey
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   Posted 12/21/2009 10:13 AM (GMT -6)   
Paste and Eakin Seals worked for me.  I leaked a lot! I smooshed the Eakin so it was nice and flat. Then put a thin layer of paste on top.  I found the Convatec paste to work the best for me.
Amey
 
Reversal 9/2009 
Ileostomy 8/2007
Revised Coletomy/ Reset Anastimosis 2006
Revised Colectomy/ Obstructions 2005
Sub-total Colectomy 2001
 
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summerstorm
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   Posted 12/21/2009 5:18 PM (GMT -6)   
i dont know they just confuse me! i cant understand how they work like paste cause they are not smushy like that. Plus i figure since my system right now works there is no sense in me changing it!
UC for 8 years, before finally kicking its butt and having a permanent ileostomy April 17 2007! 
-I have gone to find myself, if i get back before i return, keep me here-


summerstorm
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   Posted 12/21/2009 10:32 PM (GMT -6)   
well then how do they fill in the little spots that are flat inyour tummy and fill in if you cut the hole wrong?
UC for 8 years, before finally kicking its butt and having a permanent ileostomy April 17 2007! 
-I have gone to find myself, if i get back before i return, keep me here-


Trigirl
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   Posted 12/21/2009 11:09 PM (GMT -6)   
I have used both now and don't know which I like better, because I'm still getting leaks now and then no matter which I use.

Paste can stick to fingers way after the whole procedure is done. With Eakin seals I only mold half at a time and if I don't get it just right...

I could fill pages with the crazy experiences. Look forward to getting it all figured out.

The leaks happen less often than they used to, so I know I am progressing! !=)
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Allison77
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   Posted 12/24/2009 1:10 AM (GMT -6)   
Eakin seal...check. Going to go pick some up tomorrow. You guys rock!! Thanks!!!

-allie
-Allison
RX Crohn's 1999, over 30 surgeries, 3 strokes, permanent colostomy and rectum removal.
 
"The most unfortunate thing that happens to a person who fears failure is that he limits himself by becoming afraid to try anything new."


Shaz032
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   Posted 12/24/2009 2:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Trigirl, a tip: To prevent the paste from sticking to your fingers, moisten your fingers a little with water - that makes the whole process a lot easier :)

Allison, Eakin Seals are available from Convatec if you're in the USA.
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privey
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   Posted 12/24/2009 9:17 AM (GMT -6)   
I use an Eakin seal and paste to prevent the leakage. If I leave one off I leak. I put the Eakin seal around the hole of the stoma and the paste on the outer edge of the Eaking seal. Occasionally I leak but usually get 4-5 days.
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