Eakin seal, how to use?

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answers4me2
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   Posted 7/26/2010 8:49 AM (GMT -7)   
How exactly do you use these? I did not get any directions in my box. I have the ones that are flat, no hole, and a different brand with a hold in the middle. Do you use the entire eakin seal? Or is the entire thing too much? I am worried the wafer won't stick???

My stoma sticks out maybe 1/2 an inch and seems to get even a little lower during peristalis....do ya'll think a convex wafer will help? I just have no idea what a convex wafer really is, just what I have read on here.

I need to do something and quickly as the skin below my stoma looks terrible. The stoma paste looks like it eventually melts as my output is 90% pure liquid still.
Diagnosed w/colonic inertia, obstructive defecation syndrome, anismus, rectocele, and intussusecption
2005-hysterectomy w/pelvic prolapse repairs
2006-sacralcolopopexy
2010-subtotal colectomy, rectopexy, and temporary diverting loop ileostomy
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NewShinyCD
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   Posted 7/26/2010 9:45 AM (GMT -7)   
Dunno what a convex wafer looks like. I should have asked my ostomy nurse.
I usually use about a 4th of the eakin seal. I mold it for a minute to get it sticky then roll it into a snake that looks like it will almost wrap around the wafer opening (a little more than 3/4ths the way around). Then I remove the plastic off the wafer and press the seal around the opening and since you are flattening out the seal it will reach the other end. Then I make sure that my skin is dry with a paper towel and I just stick the wafer on (I already have the bag attached cause my stoma sticks out a good inch and it feels awkward to touch it while I'm trying to press the wafer on, lol).
I hold the wafer there for about a minute with my hand and then I use the belt and attach it to the bag and make it a little tighter than I would normally wear it. I keep it tight like this for about 2 hours or so and then I will loosen it back to my normal wear. I usually get about 7 days out of the wafer.

Things you could try to thicken it up is to eat bananas, rice, oatmeal, toast. Also I found out that if you drink little sips during the meal and then wait until after the meal to drink it also helps.
21 y/o male livin' in Georgia. Diagnosed with Left-Sided Colitis in 2002; re-diagnosed with Pancolitis in Nov. 2009.
June 2010 I beat UC by having surgery.
Drugs tried: Just about every 5ASA medicine, enemas, prednisone, turmeric, fish oil, Remicade, psyllium seed powder, Metamucil.
Unable to take 6MP.
Step one of Jpouch surgery - 6/2/2010
Readmitted back to hospital because of blockage (my fault cause I ate Steak n Shake 3 days after being released from surgery) - 6/10/2010
Step two of Jpouch surgery - 9/?/2010


Equestrian Mom
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   Posted 7/26/2010 11:18 AM (GMT -7)   
Yes, it does sound like you need some convexity. Basically, the wafer is cupped, which pulls the stoma out so that it will empty into your pouch. It is very common with Loop Ileostomies. Do you have any samples? You should be able to get some pretty quick if you call and ask for samples...or get an appointment with your WOC Nurse and they should be able to fit you with one and give you a few samples to take home.

It's personal preference on whether you put the seal on your skin and apply the wafer, or apply the seal to the wafer then apply that to your skin.

I apply the seal (looks like a donut) to my wafer and apply all at once because I can keep the seal drier longer...If I apply it to my skin it gets moisture from my stoma and that gets between it and my wafer...I hope that makes sense!

Some people don't use all the seal but I've found it doesn't cause any issues when I do. It will melt into the wafer (doesn't stop it from sticking) and it does a pretty good job of protecting your skin...definitely better than paste!!
Crohn’s dx 1989
some terrible years before my
Proctocolectomy in 2008


Allison77
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   Posted 7/26/2010 1:09 PM (GMT -7)   
I use convex wafers, my stoma almost disapears beneath the skin sometimes.
I use the Eakin Seal directly on my skin.
First I place 2 thin layers of 3M Liquid Bandaid, then the Eakin directly onto my skin, snug up against my stoma then the wafer on top. I hold firmly in place for a minute or so then attach the pouch. I use a belt for the first hour or so, pulled very tight. Then I take the belt off and the wafer is great for 5-7 days.

-Allie
RX Crohn's 1999, over 30 surgeries, 3 strokes, permanent colostomy and rectum removal.
 
"The most unfortunate thing that happens to a person who fears failure is that he limits himself by becoming afraid to try anything new."


LittleSisSmurf
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   Posted 7/26/2010 10:59 PM (GMT -7)   
My stoma sticks out quite a bit. I use the flat dougnut looking seals. I wrap it around my stoma and then use the wafer on top. My stoma nurses told me to cut the ring in half and put it on since the center of the ring is bigger than amy stoma and doesnt snug up to it enough? It works...im happy. All the best..good luck

80sChick
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   Posted 7/26/2010 11:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Not to hijack, but what exactly is an Eakin seal for? I hear you guys talk about them all the time, but why do you need them?
Stephanie, 28 years old
Diagnosed with Crohn's Colitis March 2000
Possible diagnosis of IBS-D
Total Proctocolectomy and Permanent Ileostomy 3/18/10! :)
Blockage/Ileo revision 6/8/10 :/
 
Tried: Asacol, Remicade, 6mp, Humira, Xifaxan, Apriso, Imuran, Rowasa Enemas, Colocort Enemas, Psyllium Seed Powder... Tried Probiotics: Align (with no change except bloating) and VSL #3 DS (AWFUL diarrhea).
 
Currently taking: Prenatal Vitamin, Vitamin B 12 Complex, Biotin, Vitamin D, Calcium, Flomax (for urinary retention). 


Equestrian Mom
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   Posted 7/27/2010 5:55 AM (GMT -7)   
People use them in place of paste or to fill in 'low spots' where they might have problems with leaks. I find that the Eakin Seal also helps to protect my skin better than paste and it doesn't have any alcohol to sting the sensitive skin:)!

There are the Eakin Seals and Adapt Rings (both look like a donut)...the same products can also come in strips...do you have a catalog? You should be able to see a picture:)
Crohn’s dx 1989
some terrible years before my
Proctocolectomy in 2008


LittleSisSmurf
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   Posted 7/27/2010 8:03 AM (GMT -7)   
The word "gasket" comes to mind...lol  tongue

Equestrian Mom
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   Posted 7/27/2010 9:28 AM (GMT -7)   
Ron~do you have problems when you touch the seal? I mash mine with my fingers to fit more surface of my wafer and it still sticks to my skin like cement smilewinkgrin

My WOC Nurse used them when I had my wound vac, too, and she really mashed that in to places for the vac to work shocked
Crohn’s dx 1989
some terrible years before my
Proctocolectomy in 2008


Allison77
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   Posted 7/27/2010 1:31 PM (GMT -7)   
I mash mine almost flat and don't use it for leaks or low spots but as a barrier between my stoma/wafer and skin. Love them!

-Allie
RX Crohn's 1999, over 30 surgeries, 3 strokes, permanent colostomy and rectum removal.
 
"The most unfortunate thing that happens to a person who fears failure is that he limits himself by becoming afraid to try anything new."


WeirdBeard
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   Posted 8/5/2010 1:47 PM (GMT -7)   
That is strange, because their website says that it is okay to touch it with your fingers. Go figure.
51 - male - in North Carolina near Asheville
UC is GONE!!
Permanent ilieostomy on July 8th, 2010
Taking multivitamin and B12.

privey
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   Posted 8/7/2010 1:49 PM (GMT -7)   
I guess I use all three, convatec convex wafer;eakin seal; and stomadhesive. I have a bunch of redundant skin because of a huge weight loss. My leaks were terrible at first but I am getting better with the process and I do feel it is a process.

My wafer is not deeply convexed but it sounds like our stomas "privey" is my girls name, as far as depth and she is one inch. I put my eakin seal on my wafer which is convatec and has a small hole in the center. I do touch the seal with my fingers and flatten the area around the hole and size the small hole to go around the stoma hole. Once the eakin seal is on the wafer I work the seal out to flaten it a bit and pull it out further so there is maybe 3/8" between end of the eakin and the wafer. Then I use the stomadhesive paste from the eakin seal to the edge of the wafer. I always prepare my wafer prior to the change and because the WOCN told me the adhesive has alcohol in it and to let it sit a few before application.


While the wafer sits I clean "privey" and put my skin protection on and somedays "privey" is good and decides to relax and it goes quickly but sometimes she thinks she needs me to see what she's been up to and "works it". So I have some quick changes and some not so quick. I have to change about ever 4-5 days.
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