rectum poop with "bag" ?

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life scar
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   Posted 3/25/2011 9:17 PM (GMT -6)   
A friend of mine has had the bag fitted after a Cancer of the bowel op....however she is still pooping and passing wind out the the rectum,  is this normal?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

elddiReMsihT
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   Posted 3/25/2011 10:32 PM (GMT -6)   
I can't imagine how it would be possible to pass wind, but I could be wrong.

What sort of ostomy does she have? With a loop ostomy it is normal to have to go rectally often. With an end ostomy it is still possible if she has any colon or rectum left.

Hopefully someone more knowledgeable will pop in here and help you out more.
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   Posted 3/26/2011 5:27 AM (GMT -6)   
It can happen with a loop ileostomy since the connection in the colon isn't completely severed. Is the ostomy temporary?

Mucous can still pass when the rectum is present but you might not have gas with that...what has their doctor said about it?
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   Posted 3/26/2011 11:24 AM (GMT -6)   
with loop (temporary) ostomies stools can still pass from the upper loop to the lower loop, so there supposed to be discharge from the rectum/j pouch. it's normal. and even when stools doesn't pass through, the rectum/j pouch keeps producing mucous and it's supposed to come out. i have a loop ileostomy and i still have my rectum. my rectum produces mucous, but i can't expel it due to a functional problem i have in my pelvic's muscles area, but i do pass wind. it's rare tho, maybe once in 2 mons.
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   Posted 3/26/2011 11:35 AM (GMT -6)   
Totally normal!!

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   Posted 4/29/2011 3:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, I am new to this forum, I got a temp ileostomy 4 weeks ago because I had an operation to repair childbirth injuries and needed the ostomy to give my muscles time to heal. I have started passing stools from my rectum. I know this is normal but I am passing these stools at least 3 times a day and when I am not I constantly feel like I need to, when I do pass the stools it is very very difficult to get them out and takes a very long time. It is very painful not just when I'm passing the stools but all the time because I get like spasms in my rectum. I'm constantly sat on the toilet at the moment trying to pass the stools and its taking over my life, my bottom has now got really really sore! Is this normal to pass this much so frequently? I was supposed to see my surgeon 6 weeks after my operation but when my appointment letter came it was for 20 weeks time! I rang them up but they said it was the earliest appointment to see him!
Many thanks

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   Posted 5/1/2011 8:26 AM (GMT -6)   
You can always call and tell them if you cant get an appoitment earlier, like at the 6 week mark your supposed to then your going to a different dr because thats seriously unprofessional. A lot of drs have full schedules but when they say come back in 6 weeks the staff has to find the space no matter what and thats usually done by holding appts....not giving them out and saying their full when their not.

So you need to call them and say you want your appt for 6 weeks like the dr said. Tell them how would think like to live an extra 3 and a half months with an ostomy that you didnt want in the first place? just tell them if you don't an appt when you wre told you would that your going to a different doctor and that doctor would be in a different practice also. And then maybe if he is full they could get you into one of his associates because most surgeons office its atleast a couple of them in practice together. like mine has started at 5 when i started seeing them 8 years ago and now is at 11, a lot of them being specialist like my dr they switched me to is a colon and rectal surgeon who came from the mayo clinic. then there is a surgeon who is a cancer specialist and there is two that were trauma surgeons but decided to join and do private practice. Thats why I went from a general surgeon who was just excellent to a colon and rectal surgeon or colorectal surgeon who is also great, obviously he excellent in his skills if he comes from mayo clinic.

P.S. Does anyone else ever wonder why doctors and lawyers 'practice' law or 'practice' medicine? lol. Well good luck with your appointment and Id seriously consider doing what I said just tell them if you don't get your appointment your going elsewhere because your not living any longer then need be with an ostomy, and to make them know your not bluffing tell them that you'll be buy to pick up a copy of your file in a fews days if they cant get you that appointment.
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