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sewwatgirl
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   Posted 5/26/2007 7:45 AM (GMT -6)   
I have had my iliostomy for 7 mos. Whenever I empty my bag (5 or 6 times a day) I ususlly rinse the bag with water.  Lately I have been having leakage problems where the bag meets the plastic flange (Convatec bags) Could this be because I am filling the bag with water.  Is it nessasary to irrigate the bag after each emptying?
Would appreciate any imput .
Sewwatgirl

JudyK89
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   Posted 5/27/2007 8:32 AM (GMT -6)   
I used to "clean" my bag every time I emptied it when I was a new ostomate, but now I never do. As long as you use the M9 drops or some sort of deoderizer, it's not an issue. The bags are made to be water and air proof, there should be no odor.

As far as the leaking around the 2 appliances, Convatec pouches are very hard to snap back on sometimes. I keep a small mirror to look all around the edges of where they come together to make sure it seals evenly. Sometimes you don't realize they haven't gone together correctly. Also, the more you empty, the looser the seal, but it should never leak if you close it properly, it should just get a little easier to seal.
Judy
25+years diagnosed with CD. 
Numerous surgeries, permanent ostomy, adverse reactions to Remicade, now on antibiotics and prednisone, currently awaiting liver biopsy to see where we go from here.
 
 


JudyK89
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   Posted 5/27/2007 8:35 AM (GMT -6)   
I did forget to mention above for those of you who are anal (sorry couldn't resist) about cleaning your pouches, just be aware that if you use anything besides water to "clean" or "rinse" it may degrade the material inside that keeps them odorproof. Your best bet is to just empty and put back on, or just rinse with a little water. I also start with a new one every day, most insurance should pay for that, 30 pouches a month, but check first.
Judy
25+years diagnosed with CD. 
Numerous surgeries, permanent ostomy, adverse reactions to Remicade, now on antibiotics and prednisone, currently awaiting liver biopsy to see where we go from here.
 
 


sewwatgirl
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   Posted 5/28/2007 6:48 AM (GMT -6)   

Thank you Judy for your response.  I don't think I made it clear where my bag was leaking.  It seems the bag itself is pulling away from the plastic on the bag, not where it connects with the wafer.  Now I'm thinking it may be a defect and have stopped using that box of bags. Will see what happens now.  Good to hear about the changing of the bags every day, as a relative newby I was afraid I would run out.What is the M9.  Should I just ask for that from my supplier? Also do you use a protective skin barrier each time you change your wafer?  What kind do you use?  So many questions, so glad I have you good folks for the answers.  I had no hint of a problem when I had an emergency colectomy last Oct due to a bleeding colon so I really didn't have any preparation for this new lifestyle.Thanks again for the quick response

Sewwatgirl


JudyK89
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   Posted 5/28/2007 8:13 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes, sounds like the pouches themselves are ripping. Be careful with them, they're tough but not indestructable. If you have a defective box of pouches, call Convatec and have them send you a replacement box, the number should be on the box.

I just did that because my closed end pouches with the cloth cover were getting all stringy and yucky on the outside, the cover part was falling apart. The guy at Convatec tried to tell me that other customers were just cutting the covers off and using them anyway. I let him have an earful, told him to send me a new box and that they are too expensive to be cutting up, and I want what I paid for, a pouch with a cloth cover. Sheesh. Usually their customer service is great, so don't be intimidated.

M9 is now made (or owned) by Hollister, it's a bottle of blue liquid that you squirt in your pouch every time you empty it, and whaalaa, no odor. Works great, just make sure you use enough. I think the directions call for so many drops, but I just squirt it in. Play around with it, it can get a little expensive so don't use too much. The insurance should also pay for it. They also come in little bottles, I forget the size, but they are perfect for putting one in your pocket or purse for when you're out, and you just hold onto the bottles and refill them from the 8oz. bottles.

I use a protective skin barrier wipe each time I change my flange. It protects your skin from the adhesives on the flange, and makes it easier to peel off without peeling your skin off. I take mine off before I shower, clean everything in the shower, put on afterwards. My favorite skin barrier wipes are the 3-M brand, but Smith & Nephew also has a good wipe, either will do. I like the no-sting because if you do have an accident, your skin can get a little burned from the stool, and the no-sting doesn't put me through the roof when I change ;0)

As far as your supplies each month, make sure your supplier gets a "prescription" from your doctor for up to twice as many boxes of supplies (not just the pouches and flanges, everything) that you'll need each month. That way, if you have any problems, you can order more the next month without having to wait for paperwork to go through. Your insurance makes them get a prescription from the doctor. It's also good to order a little extra every month, just in case. Also be aware that some insurances have a yearly cap, or a co-pay, so find out in the beginning, and watch what you order, it can add up fast and you can run out of benefits before the year is up or end up owing your supplier a lot of money if they don't keep track.
Judy
25+years diagnosed with CD. 
Numerous surgeries, permanent ostomy, adverse reactions to Remicade, now on antibiotics and prednisone, currently awaiting liver biopsy to see where we go from here.
 
 


sewwatgirl
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   Posted 5/28/2007 10:18 AM (GMT -6)   
It's me again,Judy I have in front of me a couple of products that I'm not sure of. I have Prep Site protective dressing wipe and AllKare protective wipes which I use on my abdomen around the stoma before I apply the wafer. Then I have Stomahesive which I apply directly to the wafer on the side next to my skin. That is the product I was questioning,They only send me 1 tube of this for the 3 month supply of bags and it doesn't go very far. I have Medicare and AARP supplemental insurance and maybe I need to be more agressive with my supplyer, Ya think? Knowledge is power and maybe when I get to know more what I am talking about I will be able to fight for myself.
Thanks
Sewwatgirl

JudyK89
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   Posted 5/28/2007 2:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, you can get more tubes of paste, you should get as many as you need. It's been years since I used it, so not sure about how much you'll need per box of flanges, but at least get 3 or 4.

I really like a product called Eakin Seals instead of the paste. It's a little ring/gasget that you just put on your belly, and fit around your stoma, holds up much better than the paste if you have acidid stool. You should ask your supplier for a sample, or I think Convatec now carries the product, you can go to their web site and order a sample.

The AllKare wipes are the Convatec brand of wipes, I like the 3-M because they don't sting.

Not sure what Prep Site is, never heard of it.

Just call your supplier, let them know that your 3 month supply isn't lasting 3 months, they need to get more supplies approved for you. You need to try and figure out how much you will need first though. Just remember, nothing is written in stone, you can always change/adjust what you get. I woud over estimate to be on the safe side.
Judy
25+years diagnosed with CD. 
Numerous surgeries, permanent ostomy, adverse reactions to Remicade, now on antibiotics and prednisone, currently awaiting liver biopsy to see where we go from here.
 
 

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