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summerstorm
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   Posted 6/25/2007 9:36 PM (GMT -6)   
I am having a problem where the tail of my ostomy sometimes pokes out of my shorts when I am sitting down.  I am not wearing really short shorts, just nornal length I suppose, but shorts sometimes ride up a little when you sit.  I have been tucking the tail up under my undies but that it kind of uncomfortable.  I tried using the shorter bags, but they were just annoying.
I also have a problem where the tail gets dirty and it's really icky.  I use the hollister new image lock and roll.  And poo will get on the velcro.  Does anyone else have that problem?

JudyK89
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   Posted 6/26/2007 2:14 AM (GMT -6)   
That's why I don't use the open ended pouches. I never found a clip I liked, they're always uncomfortable and pinch somewhere.
Judy
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Shaz032
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   Posted 6/26/2007 3:46 AM (GMT -6)   
I place mine so it sits at an angle pointed in towards my groin area. This helps me in a couple of ways. I empty between my legs so my bag is angled at the right area to empty plus this way it all fits neatly in my underwear and instead of filling up on just one side and making me look lopsided, it fills up evenly across my tummy.

Poo getting on the velcro seems to be a problem for the Hollister pouches. I use the Coloplast bags with velcro and from what I've read and heard, the Hollister bags seem to be the ones (and to a lesser extent, the Convatec bags) with the problem because of where the velcro is placed. Those who use Coloplast don't seem to get this problem because the velcro tabs are placed a little higher up so poo can't get on them.
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JudyK89
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   Posted 6/26/2007 9:49 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm going to try the Coloplast bags again after this surgery. Was unable to use them because I needed deep convexity. I like how low profile they are. Do you use the ones that just press together or a one piece?
Judy
25+years diagnosed with CD. 
Numerous surgeries, permanent ostomy, adverse reactions to Remicade still on Prednisone (my worst enemy), Surgery scheduled for early July. 
 
 


summerstorm
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   Posted 6/26/2007 9:26 PM (GMT -6)   
I keep mine angled too, Shaz032. I didnt' do that at first, but I noticed it filled up better that way too.
I like these pouches, the end thing is just annoying, I really only have a problem when the output is really runny. I guess i will just have to deal with it.
Thanks for the replies!

vette guy
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   Posted 6/27/2007 2:28 AM (GMT -6)   
cattieos said...
I am having a problem where the tail of my ostomy sometimes pokes out of my shorts when I am sitting down.  I am not wearing really short shorts, just nornal length I suppose, but shorts sometimes ride up a little when you sit.  I have been tucking the tail up under my undies but that it kind of uncomfortable.  I tried using the shorter bags, but they were just annoying.
I also have a problem where the tail gets dirty and it's really icky.  I use the hollister new image lock and roll.  And poo will get on the velcro.  Does anyone else have that problem?
I tried that appliance and HATED IT!!! There's no way to empty the pouch and not "soil" your hands. I thought it was a good concept, to not have to deal with a clip. But it was a concept that has no basis in reality!

Shaz032
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   Posted 6/27/2007 4:15 AM (GMT -6)   
Judy, I use a one piece, have done for 31 years. I've sampled two piece appliances but could never work out why I should bother with two pieces when a simple one piece is fine for me. I just burp my bag from the tail end without a problem. I tried burping the two piece from the neck end like others told me they could do but I ended up in a mess! lol  Guess I'm just a little unco-ordinated lol
 
I'm always worried with two pieces too, that they're not stuck together properly and find myself constantly checking just in case. I find one piece appliances just easier for me :)
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JudyK89
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   Posted 6/29/2007 8:26 AM (GMT -6)   
I use a 2 piece because I just don't like having to use a clip. I tried the Coloplast "soft" clip before, but always had leakage, and the hard clips always dig in somewhere, lol.
Judy
25+years diagnosed with CD. 
Numerous surgeries, permanent ostomy, adverse reactions to Remicade still on Prednisone (my worst enemy), Surgery scheduled for early July. 
 
 


Smoke3
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   Posted 7/8/2007 8:33 PM (GMT -6)   
I have been using the disposable(flushable) plastic liners and a closed bag,with good results, so far no "suprises"'Just make sure you carry a spare and a pair of gloves for emergencies. Any mess on the outer bag just rinse you should be back in business

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Glad Bag
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   Posted 7/10/2007 6:21 PM (GMT -6)   
i don't care what u say, those have to be some pretty 'short' shorts.

anyway, i don't have that problem since i m a dude and wear much longer shorts, but the other day, i leaned back in my chair and stretched at the poker table with my hands over my head and wow.....everyone saw my pouch when my shirt pulled up......good thing it was a friendly home game....i would have freaked out in a real tournament/casino..

i must say though, from a guy's perspective....if I saw that hanging out of a girl's / ladies' shorts, I would have to look twice......

with my history and experience though, i would have to look twice because i would be amazed to meet another person with an ostomy....especially a girl......darn i wish i could find one near where i live......

maybe you can use some medical tape to hold it in your panties, or try folding over the velcro a few times on itself to shorten the length of the whole pouch, then tape it....just a thought.....

not to distract from the topic....but on another note, any of you use an ostomy belt to help conceal everything? they just don't look like they would really help all that much.....
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dragonfly137927
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   Posted 7/12/2007 5:26 AM (GMT -6)   
I used an ostomy belt when I still had my ostomy (before the abscess drain was placed) it helped due to me constantly having watery stool so it would not pull too much on the wafer. This was an issue for me since I also had a wound vac on my inscision and everything overlapped. If my ostomy leaked I nedded a wound vac dressing change too.
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   Posted 7/13/2007 3:15 AM (GMT -6)   
thanks
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linbrook
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   Posted 7/13/2007 5:22 PM (GMT -6)   
I use the Hollister two piece lock n roll...I started using them in the hospital back in February.  It took a while to get use to them, but now I use a water bottle and pour a little bit in the bag from the bottom to help with emptying.  Then I usually rinse the bag out and take toliet paper to clean the end.  Hopefully I'm on my last month for a colostomy.  I'm scheduled for a colonoscopy on Aug 13 and if everything goes good, I will have my reversal on the 14th.  My colon perforated back in February due to Diverticulitis...

summerstorm
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   Posted 7/14/2007 8:13 PM (GMT -6)   
I swear they are not short shorts!  Or at least not hootchie-mama short.   They aren't the kind that come down to your knees, but the kind that most women probably wear.  Anyway, I have been tucking it up under my undies and  that seems to help.  My main problem with it is when I am at home, and wearing loose shorts, like gym shorts.  But I don't worry so much about it so much then, and I don't tuck it up then.  I have started cleaning the tail off with mouthwash, and that seems to help, it at least sanitizes it anyway!

jacksns4
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   Posted 7/15/2007 10:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Interesting conversations! Sometimes I use a really big bag and wear is across my abdomen to even out the bulge! I can last longer between emptying. I have a question about the bottles some of you use to clean out the end of the tail??? I got one with my kit when I was in the hospital. It is getting old now and wondered which bottles do you all use? I have been looking for the same kind but cant' find it? Also, when I'm doing the tail on my coloplast, I pull them over the bag and wipe it out then pull it back to regular position and it is easier to clean. BTW: my big high output bags from coloplast have a tube on the end and it stays put really strong. If it is too thick to come out I use the water. They are handiest at night so I can sleep all night balloon bag or not. I don't see how a bag can hang out of shorts? LBJ
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summerstorm
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   Posted 7/15/2007 9:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Well it hangs out when I sit down, like it just peeks out. Anyway, I tried using a sports bottle, cause my bottle is little, but it is too big. SO i bought a deer part water bottle, the 16oz, they have squirty tops, and that works pretty well. I do have problems sometimes when the stuff is kind of thick. I had the worst time the other day, i had eaten syrup and I guess that made it sticky, cause it was awufl!

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   Posted 7/16/2007 2:44 PM (GMT -6)   
hi cattieos....i was just teasing u know....about them being so short!

sometimes when i am at home i just let it all hang out..(i don't mean to sound nasty) since no one can see it..., and then i forget and walk into the kitchen and my roommate sees the pouch and i feel like a freak, such is life!

anyway, good luck with your tail problem.....

talk to you soon.
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summerstorm
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   Posted 7/16/2007 8:55 PM (GMT -6)   
No offense taken, lol.
I laughed when you said that about letting it all hang out!
I sometimes forget when someone comes to visit (usually it is just me and my son, my husband works alot) and I will be sitting there on the couch and it is hanging out a little, and I am like, oh no, that's gross!
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