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lolad
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   Posted 7/24/2007 9:30 AM (GMT -6)   
I have just recently had an ileostomy and have been told to expect about a 7 day usage with the appliance and 3-4 day with the pouch.I am using a 2 piece unit from Hollister and am in the 4th day. I clean the pouch by flushing after every use and everything looks in great condition. I am wondering how do you know when it is actually time to change?

badbaggirl
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   Posted 7/24/2007 9:36 AM (GMT -6)   
I change my Hollister about every 4 to 5 days BUT there are other times that I know when I need to do so. A. when the 'fabric' (if you are using the 'New Image) starts peeling back and B. in the hot weather when it gets a little stinky from sweat.
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Glad Bag
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   Posted 7/24/2007 5:15 PM (GMT -6)   
you can look at the wafer by pulling back the bag, be careful though, it can mess up the seal....

i wear mine for as long as i feel it is still working.....you will find when you start to lie on your side, etc...the digested material/juices get stuck on the wafer and breaks it down faster....

you will feel the stuff when it starts irritating your skin too....you want to change it before then, but sometimes I wait...

i am still learning....
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JudyK89
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   Posted 7/26/2007 6:04 AM (GMT -6)   
7 days is possible but seems a little long to me. If you feel itching or burning at your stoma site, change it. If you see stool on the inside of the wafer at all when you change it, change it 1 day earlier the next time. If it's clean, you can go that long or maybe a day longer next time.

Each week may be a little different also, depending on what you eat. As a poster explained above, sometimes the stool can be very acidic and eat away at the appliance around the stoma, other weeks it seems fine.

You'll figure it out, you'll begin to feel it. Depending on your financial situation, it won't hurt to change it early if you're not sure. It's trial and error in the begininning.
Judy
25+years diagnosed with CD. 
Numerous surgeries, permanent ostomy, adverse reactions to Remicade still on Prednisone (my worst enemy), Finally had another surgery hoping for a long remission. 
 
 


lolad
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   Posted 7/26/2007 8:16 AM (GMT -6)   

Thank you all for your comments. I am slowly learning.

The worse part is deciding on just what appliance I want to use.about as bad as buying a car. LOL.

Lolad


Smoke3
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   Posted 7/26/2007 2:55 PM (GMT -6)   
I use the disposable plastic bag from Colomajic and so far I am still using the same pouches I got when I got my colostomy( May 24/07) I have purchesed some closed bags now (much smaller and no tail or clip)The liner protects the bag from any stool and remains clean I usually wash the outer surface and rinse it out when changing to an alternate pouch for hygenic reasons so it's good to go for the next change
Basically, all I ever change and throw away is the wafer every 4-5 days or sooner i f required. I don't work for Colomajic nor do I even know anyone there, but I find them to be a real boon , especially if out and you get an overload, You can cary a spare and a med. glove in your walet or purse and change it anyplace. no need to have to rinse bag. Just "flush and go" I was put on to these my a retired doctor who has had a colostomy for 20 years.

Good Luck to all

THE MATE
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   Posted 7/30/2007 5:20 PM (GMT -6)   
so do you just pull this liner out through the top of your pouch? This sounds great, just wondering how exactly to get a liner with stuff in it "out" of the regular pouch? My hub has an ileostomy and his stool is usually loose and so fills up the bottom of his pouch. I am not understanding how you could pull a pouch of liquid out of the regular pouch?
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summerstorm
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   Posted 7/30/2007 9:04 PM (GMT -6)   
i wear the hollister two piece also, and I have gotten 7 days out of the whole thing before, but I don't think I will try it again, i left it too long, it started itching and I should have changed it right away and I didn't and my skin got all sore and red! I just usually wear the bag until I change the whole thing, unless i get a little whole in the bottom of the bag, where the velcro is, sometimes my fingernails catch it.

lolad
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   Posted 8/1/2007 10:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Cattieos, you mention going too long and the skin underneath is red. How do you treat the skin before attaching a new unit? I just washed and dried (today). Hope thgat is all it takes. I am replacing a Convatec Mouldable 2 piece, very easy to apply and lasted 6 days. Probably should have replaced 1 day sooner.I am still experimenting on which unit I prefer. Trying the Coloplast assura adhesive today. Would be interested in which units some of you prefer. Right now I am still trying various samples.Thanks all for your help.

awesomeame
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   Posted 8/3/2007 10:23 AM (GMT -6)   
i have the hollister new image two piece as well. while i was off work i changed both bag and flange every 7 days, that's with going to the gym and doing weights/cardio daily. now i'm back to work and change it every 5 days. i found the bags were wearing out because of all the movement i was getting. i always change a bag and a flange together, unless the bag gets a hole in it or something.

for red skin, wash the site with some warm water, let dry (i usually towel dry). then i put some stoma powder on the red areas, and give a little blow to be rid of any excess. then i spray on 3m no sting spray very liberally, wait until that dries and put the flange on. the trick for me was that i had to use a lot of no sting spray...just applying a little didn't do squat.

as for manufactuer's...i've tried them all. convatec bags are all clipped and i hate those. coloplast flanges kept lifting up on me, so i'm "stuck" with hollister. can't say i really have any complaints. you'll find something that works for you. call the manufactuer's, they'll be happy to send you samples of anything and everythign!

--matt
Dec 2006: Proctocolectomy/permanent ileostomy
Since 1991: Indeterminate crohn's/ulserative colitis


Shaz032
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   Posted 8/3/2007 8:36 PM (GMT -6)   
3 - 4 days is actually about average weartime for most ostomates, some are able to get longer weartime and others get shorter. You will soon find what the best weartime is for you.

THE MATE: the liners are for colostomates only where they have thicker stools. I believe they're also designed to be used with a non-drainable bag (I might be wrong here though). As you stated, ileostomates can have watery stools and therefore the liners won't work for us and since we use a drainable bag aren't really necessary anyway.
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peggy113
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   Posted 8/5/2007 2:01 AM (GMT -6)   
I have had an ileostomy since 1984 and have used the same appliance system this whole time - Convatec 2 piece.  Yeh, it has the little clips for the tail closure, but if it's not broken, why fix it?!!!  It really has worked very well for me.  Wear time is anywhere from 4-7 days, usually closer to the 7 days, depending on activity and foods.  
 
 I do, however, use a mild adhesive remover where the wafer is applied to remove any residue buld-up that normal soap and water won't necessarily remove, esp. after years of use.  You may not have to do this, but tuck this tip away for the future.  I didn't have to do it for many, many years.   I also use Neutrogena soap (soap residue wipes away very easily) and Viva paper towels in the wash, rinse, dry procedure - won't break the bank, and easy clean up!  The only other thing I use is Stomahesive paste... just a small ribbon of paste around the opening in the wafer.  I also am a HUGE fan of Ostofresh deodorizer - just a few drops in the pouch at each emptying and odors are neutralized amazingly well.
 
Best of Luck to ya - let us know about all of your sample trials.  I would be curious to hear.....
 

peggy113
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   Posted 8/5/2007 2:03 AM (GMT -6)   
Oh, BTW, I change both the wafer and the pouch at the same time. 

mikel
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   Posted 8/8/2007 10:50 PM (GMT -6)   
I just switched from the 2 piece to the 1 piece (convatec one-piece drainable), Active life, and the results are the same.  They last about 4-5 days. I have pushed it sometimes, only to wake up and I see around the wafer part, that it is starting to leak. I love the 1 piece, because I find it so much easier, I think. 

Crohned
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   Posted 8/9/2007 6:27 PM (GMT -6)   
As with the disease, everything is individualized and it just takes trying it all out to see what works for your skin, your body type, your activity level. I'm still in the experimental stages myself and wish I could just find the "Perfect Product." I like the fabric of Hollister (doesn't make noise, even in intimate times) but the closure of the coloplast (no mess, and folds back into itself). The search goes on.

I did have a reddend ring around my stoma the last time I changed. Because you cannot just leave it open to air, I put some paste around the stoma hoping that it would decrease the amount of stool coming in contact with the skin. Viola' it worked, no more red or irritated skin.

My biggest challenge, finding a bag that is small and inconspicuous yet large enough to wear through the night without having a blow out.
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sandybeaches
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   Posted 8/13/2007 1:28 PM (GMT -6)   
I finally found the Hollister New Image convex bag a year ago, and I've had great results with it. I too, use an Eakin Seal ( and powder if I am red and sore). Here in Fl. in the summertime, I change both bag & pouch every 6 days, in the wintertime 7 days.

Sandy B

taurus
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   Posted 8/13/2007 2:32 PM (GMT -6)   
I wear the Convatec one piece. I absolutely ADORE it and will never wear a two piece again. Although I only get a 3-4 day wear out of it. Because of the output the wafer around the stoma gets eaten away.

I have an ileostomy and I have an enormous amount of output at night while I am sleeping. If I was wearing a two piece it would most definately unsnap and there would be a mess everywhere.

When I wake up and it's super full, all I have to do is hold the bottom of the bag so the weight doesn't pull the wafer from my skin.

JudyK89
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   Posted 8/15/2007 9:23 AM (GMT -6)   
I have used Convatec 2 piece for 18 years, and it has never come apart between the flange and bag. My pouch gets very full at night also, and I have never had an issue.

I like the 2 piece because I use the closed end pouches (hate clips and velcro closures, and it's a nice and soft cloth cover) and I can just change the pouch if I want, you get 30 pouches per box, and most insurances allow 2 boxes a month. I change my pouch at least every day, that way I never have to clean it, just dump and reattach.

I hate having to sit down on a public toilet to empty an open-end pouch also. This way I stand facing the toilet, open and dump the pouch and reattach. If my ostomy is very active and I'm worried about a leak if I take off the pouch, I just have another ready, take off the old, attach the new, wrap the old in tissue and dispose of.
Judy
25+years diagnosed with CD. 
Numerous surgeries, permanent ostomy, adverse reactions to Remicade still on Prednisone (my worst enemy), Finally had another surgery hoping for a long remission. 
 
 

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