Lay, Sit or Stand - ???

Lay, Sit or Stand - What is your posiition when changing your appliance ("taking care of business")???
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Lay - 11.1%
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Sit - 22.2%
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Stand - 66.7%
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Combination of above - 0.0%
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None of the above (?!) - 0.0%

 
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peggy113
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   Posted 9/30/2007 4:45 AM (GMT -6)   
 
  What position do you use to change your appliance?  (I refer to it as "taking care of business" around my hubby so that if we are out in public or even around family/friends, it is a code for what I need to take care of and no one else needs to know!)
 
  From one of the other threads, I saw that Amey "takes care of business", laying on a towel on the bathroom floor.  I also saw another post there from Summerstorm that confirmed that position as well.  I'm curious - why lay down vs. standing up??? confused
 
  I stand up at the bathroom vanity - if I have any stoma activity, clean-up is a breeze with clorox at the sink when all is said and done.  I was trained to use the standing position if at all possible when changing my appliance, but that was many years ago.
 
  So, everyone, please enlighten me and share your "positions"!!!!
Peggy
      
Diagnosed with CD in 1979, many resections and meds
Perm Ileostomy July 1984 at Cleveland Clinic
Disease free since surgery 
 


flchurchlady
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   Posted 9/30/2007 5:45 AM (GMT -6)   
I stand when I apply the wafer.

Shaz032
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   Posted 9/30/2007 6:54 AM (GMT -6)   
I usually take off my wafer, then step into the shower. Once I'm out of the shower, I put a tissue over my stoma so it doesn't make a mess on the floor then put an Eakin Seal on then my one piece bag while I'm standing. I don't have room for a chair in my bathroom anyway, so don't have a choice lol (in Australia, our toilets are usually in a separate room to the bathroom unless it's an ensuite bathroom). I find the skin stretches out better if I'm standing anyway than when I'm sitting allowing a smoother surface to put my wafer on.
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summerstorm
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   Posted 9/30/2007 7:36 PM (GMT -6)   
i saw my name and got all excited, lol.
i lay down because then my fat goes to the side, lol. I really dont' know, i guess that's just how i learned. For along time my husband did it for me, and that's how we did it, with me laying down, i could just not for the life of me figure out how i was gonna do that by myself. then one day i had no choice and so i tried it standing up, cause that is what i heard most people do, but i found it just easier to lay down. But you have to lay flat, not with your knees bent

badbaggirl
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   Posted 10/1/2007 9:03 AM (GMT -6)   
I stand up too. I was taught to do it laying down but I like to be right up to my sink in case anything happens. The second time I saw my ET nurse for a follow up, she took it off while I was laying down, and yep. That's when Janet decided to "blow".
BadBagGirl
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awesomeame
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   Posted 10/1/2007 7:32 PM (GMT -6)   
i stand. never really occured to me even to do it in any other position!

--matt
Dec 2006: Proctocolectomy/permanent ileostomy
Since 1991: Indeterminate crohn's/ulserative colitis


Amey
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   Posted 10/1/2007 7:36 PM (GMT -6)   
I cannot imagine standing up and trying to lean over my sink. I pre-cut my wafer, lay out all of my supplies on my floor, get an old towel, and then lay on the bathroom floor. When I tried to stand up once, everything ran down my leg. I kept trying to apply the powder and spray but it was hard to focus on the application while poop was running between my toes. Then when I put the powder on, it fell onto the floor. So, I decided laying down was easier. This way, if my stoma decides to become "happy", the goods get on the towel. Then I wash and bleach the towel and fold it up and tuck it out of site.

Slice
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   Posted 10/4/2007 5:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Man, laying down? I remember the first couple of times i changed it i layed down. Only because it was right after my surgery and i just wasn't up for standing for a while. Of course, just as i started to change it my stoma decided to work. So the crud ended up running down my side and onto the bed. Nice.
That was pretty much the last time i layed down to change it. Now i hang over the toilet and if anything comes out it goes right into the water. And yes, i can aim.
 
Crohn's for what seems like forever
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peggy113
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   Posted 10/4/2007 7:48 PM (GMT -6)   

Slice ---

Now, THAT'S  Talent !!!!

 


Peggy
      
Diagnosed with CD in 1979, many resections and meds
Perm Ileostomy July 1984 at Cleveland Clinic
Disease free since surgery 
 


flchurchlady
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   Posted 10/7/2007 7:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, Slice, that is impressive!! 
 
I'm also glad to see that you can use the Chat Room now. Computer 0 Slice Won!!

Slice
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   Posted 10/7/2007 8:00 PM (GMT -6)   
I can also juggle.

Key to winning the computer battle. Take the one not working well
and THROW it out the window.
 
Crohn's for what seems like forever
Bagged in August 2006
 
We cheer for 2 teams. The Red Sox and whoever is
playing the Yankees.


summerstorm
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   Posted 10/7/2007 8:14 PM (GMT -6)   
lol slice, that's a good plan!

Slice
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   Posted 10/7/2007 8:29 PM (GMT -6)   
For my next trick............i will change my bag outside in public. Oooooo yaaaaaaa
 
Crohn's for what seems like forever
Bagged in August 2006
 
We cheer for 2 teams. The Red Sox and whoever is
playing the Yankees.


summerstorm
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   Posted 10/7/2007 8:30 PM (GMT -6)   
i think you should forgo that trick!

Slice
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   Posted 10/7/2007 8:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Does sound bad. But then i remember the amount of times i had to poop somewhere in public.
Heck, what could be worse?
 
Crohn's for what seems like forever
Bagged in August 2006
 
We cheer for 2 teams. The Red Sox and whoever is
playing the Yankees.


summerstorm
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   Posted 10/7/2007 8:36 PM (GMT -6)   
well you probably weren't pooing in the street, at least i really hope not!

Slice
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   Posted 10/7/2007 8:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Ha ha Did what i had to do. Ooooooooooooo spoooooky
 
Crohn's for what seems like forever
Bagged in August 2006
 
We cheer for 2 teams. The Red Sox and whoever is
playing the Yankees.


summerstorm
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   Posted 10/7/2007 8:41 PM (GMT -6)   
wow mental image I did not want! that will be nightmares for sure!

Amey
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   Posted 10/7/2007 8:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Slice...I've almost had to change behind a tree! I was at my kid's homeschool geography class when my bag went POP! The geography class is held at a public recreational center and the bathroom doors were locked. I had tight jeans on and things were quickly going bad for me. My jeans were filling up and I had no place to go. I ran to the back of my SUV and grabbed my little black bag. I began getting my appliances ready in the back of the vehicle..cutting wafer, getting bag, wipes, adhesive remover..yada, yada, yada. Then I locked up the car and started looking for a place to make the "swtich." While walked around the public park, I found someone who worked at the facility and offered to open up the bathroom for me. PHEW! I told the guy I had just had abdominal surgery and I needed to change my dressing. I tell ya, I was 5 minutes from squatting behind a large oak tree in the woods.
Amey
 
 
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Revised Coletomy/ Reset Anastimosis 2006
Revised Colectomy/ Obstructions 2005
Sub-total Colectomy 2001
 
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redspout
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   Posted 10/7/2007 9:56 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm a stand up kinda guy.
"The world hates change, yet it is the only thing that has brought progress."
-Charles Kettering

"He who rejects change is the architect of decay. The only human institution which rejects progress is the cemetery."
-Harold Wilson


flchurchlady
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   Posted 10/8/2007 5:18 AM (GMT -6)   
LOL, Amey, your stories are hilarious! You've had more public emergencies with an ostomy than I ever had with Crohn's! You need to write a comedy book about your experiences! tongue

Amey
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   Posted 10/8/2007 7:07 AM (GMT -6)   
LOL Cecilia...I think the Lord is testing my sense of humor.
Amey
 
 
Ileostomy 8/2007
Revised Coletomy/ Reset Anastimosis 2006
Revised Colectomy/ Obstructions 2005
Sub-total Colectomy 2001
 
Prov. 16: 20 Whoso trusteth in the Lord, happy is he.
 
Zelnorm, Colace, Motilium, Citrate of Magnesium, Nexium, Amitiza, Potassium, Magnesium, Miralax, Milk of Magnesium, Corgard, Glycerin Suppositories, Sorbitol, Bentyl, Senokot


Slice
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   Posted 10/8/2007 10:10 AM (GMT -6)   
I've had plenty of "public emergencies", but only a couple with the ostomy. I won't even mention some of the places i had to use before i had the operation. I won't mention it in case someone on here was the person to " discover" one of those places. Oh man that sounds so bad yet so funny.
 
Crohn's for what seems like forever
Bagged in August 2006
 
We cheer for 2 teams. The Red Sox and whoever is
playing the Yankees.


summerstorm
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   Posted 10/8/2007 12:34 PM (GMT -6)   
well i think that is someone is out lookign for that, then they deserve to find it!
that made me think of the JcPenneys dressing room, there was a sign, in really big letters, english and spanish, that said "Please this is NOT a restroom!" and i couldnt' help thinking, ok that means someone has used this as a restroom, and i really didn't want to touch anything

Hailey
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   Posted 10/31/2007 8:49 PM (GMT -6)   
In the hospital they did it while I was laying in bed, when I tried I could not see what i was doing, so I have to say that I'm a "Stander". Now at home, I'll get all my "needed" stuff put on the sink, and lay a long enough piece of TIN FOIL on the floor. Then when all is cleaned up (I use 4x4 gauze pads to clean stoma area) it all gets wrapped up (in the foil) and put into the garbage.
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