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wd40
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   Posted 1/29/2008 4:24 PM (GMT -6)   
I wonder if this will be possible someday?
12/06/07 DaVinci and LRP


Paul1959
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   Posted 1/29/2008 4:30 PM (GMT -6)   
Well, I hate to break it to you, I've already placed my name on the list... Now, I just don't know who to give the list to...sigh
how about a Jarvik mechanical Prostate?
47 at Diagnosis.
Father died of Pca 4/07 at 86.
1/06 PSA 3.15
1/07 PSA 4.6      (Biopsy 3/07 just suspicious)
10/07 PSA 5.06   (Biopsy 11/07  1 of 12 with 8% involvment) (1mm)
Da Vinci surgery Jan 5, '08 at Mt. Sinai Hosp. NYC  www.roboticoncology.com
Saved both nerve bundles.
Path Report:  Stage 2cNxMx
-Gleason (3+3)6
-totally contained to prostate,
-10% involvement in L & R Mid lobes
 
 


Pete trips again!
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   Posted 1/29/2008 6:05 PM (GMT -6)   
So I can "COME AGAIN" just like the song said! I'm right behind paul on that list of his. Unlike some here, I really really miss "Delivering the Goods!"
Your dry friend in S.E.Fla.
Pete
54 years old, Surgury, Radical Prostatectomy 8/20/03, PSA 6.6, Gleason 3 + 3 = 6, Adenocarcinoma extent (moderate) Stage & Margin:T2NOMX, No Metastases, Organ Confined, bone scan: Neg. Testosterone Theropy since 12/06. I am's what I am and that's all that I am!!! 


PianoMan
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   Posted 1/29/2008 7:05 PM (GMT -6)   
I hear ya Pete. I miss delivering the goods too, but on the bright side (and I've said this before here) now we gents can fake it like some of the gals, when necessary. Just scream ooh and aah a few times, do a couple of kegels (for the contraction effect) and she'll never know the difference!!! No more need for physical evidence!!
LOL
Best to ya.

D.O.B - 8/9/52

PSA: First ever was 9.8 in late Oct. ‘06, two weeks later, 10.1

DRE: Negative

Biopsy results 11/22/06.  Both lobes involved.  Six out of eight cores positive - from 100 percent to 90, to 60, to 50, two 20s and two zeros.

Gleason 3+3 = 6

Da Vinci Robotic RP surgery, City of Hope, Jan 12, 2007

Post surgery pathology – Organ confined, Gleason still 6, margins clear.  Volume of tumor much less than biopsy suggested.  12 percent overall.

First post-surgery PSA -- Undetectable, 2/20/07

Second post-surgery PSA -- Undetectable, 9/11/07


JCL
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   Posted 1/29/2008 7:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the laughs, guys! And PianoMan, I showed your post to my wife and she could not stop laughing. On second thought, maybe that wasn't a good idea. Now she'll be wondering the next time I climax!

And by the way, I think it's absolutely fantastic that we have a sense of humor about this aspect of PC. Better to laugh than sulk.
Diagnosed: March 25, 2007. Age 49
Biopsy: Gleason 6. Five of twelve samples positive with <5% each. No perineural invasion seen.
Surgery: May 21, 2007
Post-op Pathology: Upgraded to Gleason 7 (3+4), negative margins, negative capsular penetration, negative seminal vesicles, lymph nodes left intact, multifocal perinural invasion, 15% of prosate involving cancer in both lobes. T2c
Continence: Out of pads at five weeks. Seven months post-op I'm fully continent.
Erections: Yes! With the assistance of Cialis.
Post Surgery PSA: Three tests, all <0.1
Family history: Great-great grandfather died from PC. My Father had his prostate removed at age 67 in 1997 and has had an undetectable PSA ever since. I was diagnosed at a much earlier age and had a more agressive cancer than my father. Go figure.

Post Edited (JCL) : 1/29/2008 5:46:06 PM (GMT-7)


Paul1959
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   Posted 1/29/2008 8:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Well, my wife has said that when I take matters into my own hands there is no clean up.
47 at Diagnosis.
Father died of Pca 4/07 at 86.
1/06 PSA 3.15
1/07 PSA 4.6      (Biopsy 3/07 just suspicious)
10/07 PSA 5.06   (Biopsy 11/07  1 of 12 with 8% involvment) (1mm)
Da Vinci surgery Jan 5, '08 at Mt. Sinai Hosp. NYC  www.roboticoncology.com
Saved both nerve bundles.
Path Report:  Stage 2cNxMx
-Gleason (3+3)6
-totally contained to prostate,
-10% involvement in L & R Mid lobes
 
 


jetguy
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   Posted 1/29/2008 8:51 PM (GMT -6)   

Jeez, my prostate has given me enough trouble.  Why would I want another one?

Bill


August of 2006, PSA up to 4.2 from 2.7 one year ago. 
October free and total PSA 12% free and 5.0 total.
A month, or so later, 4.7.
Late in the year decide on Image Guided IMRT.
Begin 43 treatments on January 23, 2007 and finish on March 23.
Four month post treatment PSA is 1.9.
Seven month PSA is 0.8.


PianoMan
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   Posted 1/29/2008 11:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Laughter reallly is good medicine, my friends.  I feel great when I pass a "tickle" along to my friends here.
JCL - I'm glad you're wife got a kick out of my "men can fake it too" comment.  She sounds like a wonderful woman.
Best to both of ya,
Tom 
 

D.O.B - 8/9/52

PSA: First ever was 9.8 in late Oct. ‘06, two weeks later, 10.1

DRE: Negative

Biopsy results 11/22/06.  Both lobes involved.  Six out of eight cores positive - from 100 percent to 90, to 60, to 50, two 20s and two zeros.

Gleason 3+3 = 6

Da Vinci Robotic RP surgery, City of Hope, Jan 12, 2007

Post surgery pathology – Organ confined, Gleason still 6, margins clear.  Volume of tumor much less than biopsy suggested.  12 percent overall.

First post-surgery PSA -- Undetectable, 2/20/07

Second post-surgery PSA -- Undetectable, 9/11/07


Swimom
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   Posted 1/29/2008 11:43 PM (GMT -6)   
JCL's wife knows ....... men can't fake orgasms! I won't give away a woman's secret. There's a sacred oath we take to never, ever give away all our secrets! Just realize.... WE KNOW :>)

Cute post PianoMan. I love the light hearted moments in here.

Swim
 


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 1/30/2008 3:07 AM (GMT -6)   
Geez, And what? Get prostate cancer again? I could be twice as lucky! I'd be getting the "at least it's the good cancer" again...

Tony
Age 45 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007
Post-Op Pathology was poor: Gleason 4+3=7, 4 positive margins, Stage pT3b (Stage III)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
 
My PSA did drop out after surgery to undetectable.  It has not returned and I will continue HT until January '08.
 
My Life is supported very well by family and friends like you all.
 
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JCL
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   Posted 1/30/2008 9:30 AM (GMT -6)   

And besides, I'm so used to peeing like a twelve year old again I don't think I could ever go back to standing at a urinal and waiting...waiting...waiting

And Tony, I ran a 5K road race this past weekend and wore a shirt I had madeup up that said on the back, "I'm Running For Men With Prostate Cancer."  I received a lot of comments and of course the "oh, that's not the bad cancer, is it."  I just shook my head and told them what I always do, "There is no good cancer, my friend."


Diagnosed: March 25, 2007. Age 49
Biopsy: Gleason 6. Five of twelve samples positive with <5% each. No perineural invasion seen.
Surgery: May 21, 2007
Post-op Pathology: Upgraded to Gleason 7 (3+4), negative margins, negative capsular penetration, negative seminal vesicles, lymph nodes left intact, multifocal perinural invasion, 15% of prosate involving cancer in both lobes. T2c
Continence: Out of pads at five weeks. Seven months post-op I'm fully continent.
Erections: Yes! With the assistance of Cialis.
Post Surgery PSA: Three tests, all <0.1
Family history: Great-great grandfather died from PC. My Father had his prostate removed at age 67 in 1997 and has had an undetectable PSA ever since. I was diagnosed at a much earlier age and had a more agressive cancer than my father. Go figure.


wd40
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   Posted 1/30/2008 9:51 AM (GMT -6)   
i had made a post but something happened to it. Me and my babe are still laughing anyway.

I do miss the juice too.

I think the more juice you put out, the more you miss it.

Randy
12/06/07 DaVinci and LRP


War-eagle
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   Posted 1/30/2008 9:55 AM (GMT -6)   

Please, stop, please. I have tears flowing down my hormonal face.

I want on the list just so I can try to fake it. Swim, now that we are on hormones, we know the secret. Just like becoming a decorator. There are no secrets now.

War Eagle to all.

Walt


Age: 54
PSA 43 7/2005
Biopsy 12/14 Gleason 7 & 9
Divinci 9/2005 - spread to bladder
HT - 10/2005 (Eligard every 6 months)
RT - 10/2005 (38 treatments)
PSA 0.12 to 1.9 2/2007
Bone Scan and CT 4/2007 Bone mets
Casodex 4/2007
Zometa infusions 4/2007
PSA 4.8 8/2007
PSA 6.34 12/2007
Radiation (15 treatments) started on bone mets 12/2007
PSA 6.72 1/2008
 
 
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StrictlyInc
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   Posted 2/1/2008 3:30 AM (GMT -6)   
I'd go for the mechanical prostate idea... but a new one sounds too risky.

Plus, if going in once is bad on the nerves, I imagine going in a second time would be devastating.

I do miss the physical evidence, though, and the orgasms that went with it...
____________________

Prostate cancer diagnosed: May 15, 2006 (age 40)
Gleason score: pre-surgery 3+3=6; post-surgery 3+4=7
daVinci radical prostatectomy: July 25, 2006
size of tumor: approx 1.1 inches; negative margins from surgery

- number of pads/day at 3 months after surgery: 3 to 5
- number of pads/day at 4 months after surgery: 1 to 2
- number of pads/day at 6-18 months after surgery: 0 to 1

- 1st post-surgery PSA: 0 (Nov 2006); 2nd post-surgery PSA: 0 (Feb 2007)
- 3rd post-surgery PSA: 0 (May 2007); 4th post-surgery PSA: 0 (June 2007); 5th post-surgery PSA: 0

The search for timber: took Viagra/Cialis approx. every other day, ErecAid once a day, injections. Peyronie's diagnosed 7/5/07. Now on daily Cialis, L-arginine and pentoxyfylline. Peyronies has stabilized and significantly reversed.

- PGE1 batting average: .364 (4 for 11)
- Bimix batting average: .643 (9 for 14)
- Trimix batting average: .500 (1 for 2) Grand total 14 for 27 = .519

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wd40
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   Posted 2/1/2008 11:05 AM (GMT -6)   
Okay, we could make our own. Maybe like a fuel injection that gives your lady a nice warm spray. yeah
12/06/07 DaVinci and open prostate surgery after difficulties in breathing stopped the davinci.
Walked a lot
90% control the day the catherter removed.
pad only for a sneeze before the week was out
No pads most of the second week.


Swimom
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   Posted 2/1/2008 11:17 AM (GMT -6)   
wd40 um...ew? That sounded way wrong : }



Walt.....You are so funny. Sorry, not even if ya did a complete change over. Nice try though :>)
 


wd40
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   Posted 2/1/2008 12:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Snicker, snicker. I should have added the word "inside" spray.
12/06/07 DaVinci and open prostate surgery after difficulties in breathing stopped the davinci.
Walked a lot
90% control the day the catherter removed.
pad only for a sneeze before the week was out
No pads most of the second week.


56pontiac
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   Posted 2/4/2008 9:00 PM (GMT -6)   
When they take that black light into a motel room and shine it on the bed, they can't pin the stains on us. yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

whoa182
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   Posted 3/28/2008 5:14 PM (GMT -6)   
They can already grow a prostate, but no attempts have been made in human yet, though it is probably easier than most organs. Scientists are already growing back fingers, growing working bladders, heart tissue and so on... within the next 5-10 years we'll probably see organs available for everything, or better still, the ability to regrow these organs. Really, it's not that far away anymore ;)
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KeyWestPirate
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   Posted 5/2/2009 2:39 PM (GMT -6)   

I miss the ejaculation too.

I think the key here would be to transplant the  entire "sub-assembly", from penis, testicles, prostate, nerve bundles surrounding the capsule. 

Hook up some blood vessels, splice some nerves, attach the top of the prostate to the bladder neck, and  voila! 

       Now where do we find a surgeon to do it?

I'm thinking a young drive-by shooting victim as the donor. 

Small prostate, young testicles, lots of testosterone. 

 

Robotic Surgery 11-2008 at 64  PC totally contained within capsule

Diagnosed 6-2008  w/ Gleason 6 & PSA 6.5  

Subsequent PSA tests show undetectable PSA

Dry the day after the catheter removed, some erectile capability at 3 wks, slowly but surely getting better, wife loves the pump.  I can achieve an erection sufficient for penetration, but she needs more.  Daily Cialis or Viagra, purchased overseas - my insurance won't cover it.  Viagra works better, faster, but Cialis doesn't stuff up my nose as bad

Testosterone replacement therapy for two months to counteract the effect of a Lupron shot  (was originally going to get a Brachy,  BIG MISTAKE.  Thank God for second opinions).  Natural testosterone production came back, one of the lucky ones. 

Why would ANYONE have EBRT or Brachy (the shot in the dark) when  robotic RP has become such a great solution?  Except maybe to put your urologist's kids through college?  The run-up to the aborted Brachy cost me more than the entire robotic RP!  I can see Proton Beam - a good solution if you live in So Cal or Houston and have two months for the daily treatments, but conventional radiation??  Why not leeches and blood letting at your local barber shop?

 

 


Tony1951
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   Posted 5/2/2009 7:53 PM (GMT -6)   

Any of you guys on HT having erections?  I want to be interested again, but my desire is about as small as my testicles have become? Oh, has anyone on HT noticed a difference in their testees?

I never realized how much of what drove me was fueled by testosterone until now.  I'm REALLY thinking about stopping the anti-hormones making August my last shot.  That will give me a full year on it, and while I know its rocommened that the HT continue for at least 2 years, I'm just "too not me" without  the hormone.  Did someone say "easy cancer?" Blah!


Name: Tony  Born: 1951
Diagnosed PCA 7/23/2008;  Prostate Volume 19 grams
Cancer Location: Right Mid and Right Apex 2 of 12 cores positive
Percentage of tissue involves 14%  Gleason 3+4=7 4+4=8
PSA levels  6/08/08 7.7;  6/30/08 6.8
Began HT Zoladex 8/26/2008
As of 9/11/08 I am waiting to start IMRT IGRT
September 23, 2008 after one month of Zoladex PSA 2.83 - Testosterone 16
October 22, 2008: First day of IMRT.  I am receiving 1.8 grays per day over a period of 43 days.
December 24th, 2008 Completed my Radiation treatment
March 13th, 2009 PSA <0.08


NotHard
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   Posted 5/3/2009 12:10 AM (GMT -6)   

Thanks for the laughs fella's, you can't beat a laugh, it just goes to show, you dont have

to go to the circus to find a clown.............cheers Survior turn


mjluke
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   Posted 5/3/2009 8:32 AM (GMT -6)   
KeyWestPirate said...

I miss the ejaculation too.

I think the key here would be to transplant the  entire "sub-assembly", from penis, testicles, prostate, nerve bundles surrounding the capsule. 

Hook up some blood vessels, splice some nerves, attach the top of the prostate to the bladder neck, and  voila! 

       Now where do we find a surgeon to do it?

I'm thinking a young drive-by shooting victim as the donor. 

Small prostate, young testicles, lots of testosterone. 

 

Robotic Surgery 11-2008 at 64  PC totally contained within capsule

Diagnosed 6-2008  w/ Gleason 6 & PSA 6.5  

Subsequent PSA tests show undetectable PSA

Dry the day after the catheter removed, some erectile capability at 3 wks, slowly but surely getting better, wife loves the pump.  I can achieve an erection sufficient for penetration, but she needs more.  Daily Cialis or Viagra, purchased overseas - my insurance won't cover it.  Viagra works better, faster, but Cialis doesn't stuff up my nose as bad

Testosterone replacement therapy for two months to counteract the effect of a Lupron shot  (was originally going to get a Brachy,  BIG MISTAKE.  Thank God for second opinions).  Natural testosterone production came back, one of the lucky ones. 

Why would ANYONE have EBRT or Brachy (the shot in the dark) when  robotic RP has become such a great solution?  Except maybe to put your urologist's kids through college?  The run-up to the aborted Brachy cost me more than the entire robotic RP!  I can see Proton Beam - a good solution if you live in So Cal or Houston and have two months for the daily treatments, but conventional radiation??  Why not leeches and blood letting at your local barber shop?

 Good Morning KEYWESTPIRATE:

I am presently investigating Brachytherapy as a treatment alternative and am interested in your reference to the procedure as -the shot in the dark- would you kindly provide some details of your experience and the aborted Brachy you refer to.

 



 
63 years old-tumor discovered on digital exam- biopsy December 2008-
4 of 12 samples positive-all on right side
Gleason 3+3=6
PSA-3
Otherwise excellent health.
 
  "There may come a day when the courage of men will fail, but it will not be this day."


kw
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   Posted 5/3/2009 8:56 AM (GMT -6)   

  I already have one mechanical device (AUS) inside me, why would I want a "mechanical prostate"? ...hehehe.  Don't mind shootin blanks here at all.

    KW

 


    43 at Dx and Surgery (RRP)
    PSA 5.7, Biopsy 3 of 12 positive (up to 75%) all on left side of prostate, Gleason 7
    RRP on Oct. 17, 2006 - Nerves on right side saved. All Lab's clear. 
    Cathiter in for 28 days due to complications in healing. Removed Nov. 9, 2006
    First Post op PSA on Dec. 11, 2006  Undetectable 0.00.
    ED workable and usable with Viagra.
    Feb. 20th, 2007 - Feb. 4th, 2008  Cystoscope, Two Collagen injections,Second Opinion Consultation for Incontinance at OU Medical Center, Bio-Feedback training, Chiropractic, Accupuncture  to try to resolve ongoing incontinance (4-6 pads a day)  All PSA's 0.00.
    Feb. 22nd, 2008 - Surgery to install the AMS AdVance Male Sling.
    March 27th, 2008 - Sling not working, Little or no improvement.
    April 18, 2008 - Collagen injection.  Back to using 4-6 full pads a day within a week.
    May 14, 2008 - Another collagen injection to try to Band-Aid the leaking for our June cruise.  Will start making conusultation appiontments for AUS after we return.
    July 14th, 2008 - AUS consultation with Dr. Morey at UT Southwestern (Dallas).
    July 30, PSA 0.00.
    Aug. 22nd, 2008 - AUS Surgery by Dr. Morey
    Oct. 6th, 2008 - AUS Activation by Dr. Morey.  Working Great, only light drips and dribbles.
    Jan, 31st, 2009 - PSA 0.00  Next test in July, 2009  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
   
     


sterd82
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   Posted 5/3/2009 10:47 PM (GMT -6)   

How about a mechanical prostate that shoots hot fudge?  There might be a lot of wives and girlfriends  whose attitude toward oral sex might change if they figure that one out!

(sorry...I couldn't resist!) devil


Sterd82
Age 48 - pre-surgery PSA 39 (at age 45)
Open Radical Prostatectomy 6/9/2006
Pathological Stage T3a, Positive Surgical Margin
Gleason 3+4
PSA rose to .24 in November of 2006
6 month hormone therapy initiated December 1. 2006
36 sessions of IMRT Ended Feb 1, 2007
PSA as of May 25, 2007 undetectable
PSA as of November 29, 2007 undetectable
PSA as of May 14, 2008 undetectable
PSA as of November 25, 2008 undetectable

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