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wiggyann
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   Posted 5/20/2008 3:51 AM (GMT -6)   
 
 
I would  like to ask the men on this forum if they had to  undress in front of the nurse when they were called in from the waiting room to have the biopsy done.  Also, did
anyone have to witness the nurse preparing the biopsy
probe? I do have a valid reason for asking this.  Please bear with me. 
 
Thank you so much,
Wiggyann
 
husband 68 at diagnosis
psa 7.3 
Gleason 7
Adenocarcinoma found in 8 out of 12 cores
Stage T1c
Treatment:  25 IMRT and brachytherapy
psa around 10 months 0.7 

livinadream
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   Posted 5/20/2008 5:15 AM (GMT -6)   
Oh yes I can relate to this one. I recall laying there watching the nurse prepare the biospy probe and he (the nurse) called it BIG SAM. I was awake for my biopsy and remember it all to well. Would love to hear your story.

peace to you
Dale
My PSA at diagnosis was 16.3
age 46 (current)
My gleason score from prostate was 4+5=9 and from the lymph nodes was 4+4=8
I had 44 IMRT's
Casodex
Currently on Lupron
I go to The Cancer Treatment Center of America
Married with two kids
 


Jim-N1BRP
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   Posted 5/20/2008 6:06 AM (GMT -6)   
I also can relate to this with a big yes. I’ll even go one step further, I had radiation treatment not surgery and had to lower my pants and draws every morning on the table in front of not one but two nurses. By treatment 30, I got over it.

Jim

Jim, 54,~Jim-N1BRP. My Journey
Diagnosed: 12Nov. '07, Age 54

Treatment Started : 31 Jan 08

Completed 31 Mar 08

42 treatments 1.8 Gy M-F for a total of 75.6 Gy.

Prostate Biopsy: 18Sept '06, - 10 sample all negative, Prostate size 36.3 cc

Prostate Biopsy : 12Nov '07, Biopsy - 14 sample 2 positive, one Gleason 6 at 5 %,
other Gleason 6 at 15%- Stage T1C -Prostate size 40.2 cc

Bone Scan: 12Dec '07, - Hot Spot on Brain
Family history: Father and two uncles  die from PCa

Other: GERD, 30% Carotid artery blockage, Kidney Cyst, Asthma

Meds, Hytrin, BusPIRone, Trazodone, Tramadol HCl, Omeprazole, Plavix, Albuterol, Multi Vitamin  Mens

PSA's                   fPSA

1.2    Oct  05

3.61  Jul    06    

2.6    Sept 06          19%  

2.6    Apr 07             3% Oh NO

 


mgl
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   Posted 5/20/2008 6:11 AM (GMT -6)   
The nurse was in the room the whole time .longer than the doctor, I'm sure she could see anything she wanted no big deal, not for me
50 years old
gleason 3+4=7 psa5.8 clinical stageT3a
Da vinci surgery April10 2007 Mayo clinic Rochester, Mn.
extraprostatic extension Gleason -same
pelvic lymph nodes -negative
Catheter out April 19
37 treatments IMRT ended 10/26/07
psa Jan 29 2008 0.10
psa april 30 0.14


wiggyann
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   Posted 5/20/2008 8:09 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you Dale, I appreciate your response :-)

I had been reading several medical sites online which told what a biopsy was like and the ultrasound probe was always described as being the size of a cigar or a fat finger. My husband told me when the nurse opened the door to the room where she was taking him, the first thing he saw was a large cylinder shaped object standing on a table. He said it was much larger than he thought it was going to be. Then, she told him to take off both pairs of his pants, but said he could leave his shirt on. After that, she had him sit down in a chair next to the table while she put a condom on the ultrsound probe and began lubricating it right there in front of my husband. (I couldn't believe what he was telling me )

Then, she had him get up and cross over to the bed which was there in the room and lay down. Now, he is nude from the waist down and his backside is facing the nurse as he walks over to the bed. There is no reason why my husband's privacy should have been violated like that, nor was there any reason for the nurse to prepare the equipment in front of my husband.

My husband told me that when he was laying on the bed he kept trying to pull his shirt down to try and cover himself. I know now that most men are given a sheet to over themselves with and the nurse leaves the room while the man changes into a hospital gown or undresses and covers himself with the sheet.

After the urologist came in and performed the biopsy, which I have gone into on another post, He immediately left and then the nurse asked my husband if he was okay and then she told him he could get up. He took several tissues from a box sitting there and began to wipe himself and when he brought his hand back around he said there was blood all over the tissues and all over his hand. He began looking around for some thing to do with the soiled tissues and he finally saw a small waste can over in the corner of the room. He said, " I took several steps towards it and tossed the tissues, but they fell short and missed the waste can. He was going to take more tissues and continue cleaning himself, but decided instead to retrieve the soiled tissues. So, he walked over, bent down and picked them up and as he stood back up, he said he felt himself falling forward and he remembers hearing a crash. And next thing he knew was when he opened his eyes and there were two men and the nurse and they were all three bending over and staring down at him. The one man was the urologist who shares the office with my husband's urologist and he asked him if he was okay. My husband said that he was and then both men helped him to get up. And my husband said to one of them, " I just want to get out of here!" He said there was also another woman in the room and he heard her saying she had heard the crash from out in the hall. I don't understand what the other woman was doing in there while my husband was lying there exposed. None of it makes any sense to me. As a matter of fact, it makes me very angry that he was treated this way. He hurried to get his clothes and he told me later that he has never been so embarrassed and humiliated in his whole life standing there trying to get dressed with all of those people in the room. Then, his urologist opened the door and and asked what was going on. My husband heard the nurse tell the doctor that my husband had fainted and he heard her say, " I saw him starting to fall and I got out of the way." Wasn't it her job to try and help my husband? Then, after everyone had left the nurse had my hsuband lay down and she put some wet paper towels on his head for awhile. Then, she got him up and walked him back down the hall and when she opened the door to the waiting room door, she said, " He fainted." And everyone in the waiting room heard her and saw my husband standing there. I have been told since my several professional people that this nurse violated the HIPPA by saying what she did when other people could hear her.

My husband said he thought she handled the whole thing very poorly, but wouldn't tell the urologist because he didn't want to cause a problem. Also, he was concerned that the urologist might drop him as a patient. I still think he should be told. This nurse should never have treated my husband that way.

I would appreciate your thoughts on what happened.

Wiggyann

Lungman
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   Posted 5/20/2008 8:22 AM (GMT -6)   
I am sorry you had a negative experience. My biopsy was done very professionally, I was allowed to undress and cover with a paper gown or drape and got on the exam table in private, only then did the nurse come back in, prepped the equipment out of my vision, then the urologist came in and proceeded, informing me each step of the way. When completed, he cleaned the area, once the nurse determined that I could sit and was stable, I was allowed to re-dress in private. As for as HIPPA violations, those are for patient privacy, I wouldn't spend a lot of time with it, unless your husbands name was called in a public arena and his information disclosed, there is not a lot you can do, just sounds like an very unproffesional way to conduct business on the office. I am sure you will get a second opinion anyway, that way you may never go back to this particular MD again, just now you will definitely appreciate a professional and mindful office environment. My second opinion MD ended up being my surgeon and my new urologist, although my original experience was good, I felt more comfortable with the technology of my current guy. Good Luck.
46 you when diagnosed, now 47
Pre-Op PSA 9.9
1 of 12 cores positive, Gleason 3+3
DaVinci on 9/5/2007
Post-Op Gleason 3+6, Negative Nodes and Margins
Less than 1% of prostate involved with CA
3 Month PSA 0.01, 6 Month PSA 0.01
Incontinence resolved 9/15/2007, one day after cath removal
ED showing significant improvement.
Cialis 5 mg every night.
Success with BiMix


Roger G
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   Posted 5/20/2008 8:24 AM (GMT -6)   
At this point in my life. so many doctor and nurses have seen me naked I really don't care anymore. A few years ago I had to have an annal fissure repaired. During the operation my feet were in styrups and I'm sure my penis was held out of the way with surgical tape. I remember there being a sign on the OR door about not entering the OR unless needed for privacy reasons. A nice touch in my opinion.

I actually feel for the doctors and nurses. Being exposed to this day in and day out has got to have a desensatizing affect on them.  Do they look at their partners privates with a clinical view?

Now don't get me wrong, I'm HAPPY that DREs are a thing of the past for me!!! I never did like the goopy mess.


Age: 43 (2008)
DRE Small Ridge on prostate, PSA 1.5
07/2007: Diagnosed cancer, T2c, Gleason 3+4=7
09/2007: Laparoscopic prostectomy @ Hamilton General, 4 hrs.
              Both nerve bundles spared
              Pathology Report: Tumor confined w/in prostate
              T2c, Gleason is 3+3=6
              Went home with JP drain
10/2007: Made return trip to hospital.  All urine was comming out JP drain.
10/2007: Catheter removed. Next to no leakage
11/2007: 1st PSA <.003 :)
              ED: Started Viagra, no response yet.
12/2007: Had confidence to go padless!!!!!
12/2007: ED:  Stopped Viagra as it's causing hemroid problems.
01/2008: 2nd PSA <.003 :)
              ED: next to no response.
04/2008: 3nd PSA <.003 :)
              ED: next to no response.  Changed the Viagra prescription.
 

Post Edited (Roger G) : 5/20/2008 7:34:19 AM (GMT-6)


wiggyann
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   Posted 5/20/2008 9:09 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Jim,

My husband had 25 radiation treatments and he too had to lower his pants down around his ankles and climb upon the table and there were always two radiation therapists who set up the radiation machine and sometimes the dosimitrist (spelling?) or the nurse would be in there, too. But they always tried to put somethng over him, even it it fell off which it often did they would pick it up and lay it back over him. And after a few weeks, it became his normal routine. And we didn't think a thing of that.

Something was different with this nurse. I guess that is what I was trying to say. Several months after my husband had the biopsy, while he was having the radiation treatments, . He said, one day, "I still don't know why the nurse had me sitting in that chair without any pants on." It's almost as if she took advantage of his vulnerabilty. There was no reason for him to be sitting in the chair without any pants on or observing her putting a condom on the ultrasound probe and then lubricating it using both hands.

I have spoken to the wife of a man who has the same urologist my husband has and this man has had two biopsies done at his office. Both times he was given a sheet, told to undress and lay down on the bed and cover himself with the sheet which he did until the urologist came into the room.
I think the nurse left after she gave him the sheet and told him to underess and lay down on the bed. She did come back in with the urologist and stayed to assist him. The urologist only has one nurse, but I don't know when this man had the two biopsies done. Maybe this nurse didn't work for the doctor at that time.

I hope I explained it a little better.
Thanks so much for your post... Thanks mgl for yours too.
May God Bless You Both,
Wiggyann

ace06
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   Posted 5/20/2008 9:22 AM (GMT -6)   
My worst experience was when I had a cysts copy. Before I saw he doctor, a nurse in her 20s, came in, no one else in the room she told me to take my clothes off, got a syringe and stuck the tip in my penis, said "this is going to hurt". It did.
Age 73
PSA 4.1 in Nov 07. 4.5 in March 08 after antibotics
Biopsy 2 Pos out of 12, 1- 70%, 1<5%
Preop Pathology 3+3 contained no postop yet
robotic surgery May 5th 08
Doing good except very wet


lvdgs
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   Posted 5/20/2008 9:35 AM (GMT -6)   

Wiggyann, aside from the fact that she treated your husband that way I would question the sanitary issue of people sitting on chairs with no clothes on unless there was a tissue sheet under him. As us women know, we lost our modesty years ago when it comes to going to doctors. Your husband sounds like mine, he would just do as he was told and not speak up and ask for a sheet etc. I would write a letter to the urologist explaining what happened and how demoralized your husband felt, he may not be aware of how his patients are being treated as all of this reflects back to him. Your husband has a right to be comfortable around his doctor and his office staff. This situation is bad enough to go through no one should have to endure added stress such as what happend to him. 

Geezzz, I'm getting madder about it the more I write..people should never be treated like they are cows.  

 


wiggyann
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   Posted 5/20/2008 9:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Lungman,

I sure enjoyed reading your post and really wish my husband's
experience had been as professional as yours. I know he would have felt a lot better about it. I would have too :-)

I didn't mention this in my post, but many men are very anxious when they go in to have a prostate biopsy and for them to walk into the room and see a large ultrsound probe standing on the table can be quite upsetting. One would think a urologist would know this.

Sounds like you ae doing good, so happy for you.
Wiggyann

husband 68 at diagnosis
psa 7.3 ..... Gleason 7
Stage T1c eight out of twelve cores positive
for adenocarcinoma. Treatment 25 IMRT and Brachytherapy
psa at ten months 0.7

wiggyann
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   Posted 5/20/2008 9:57 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi aceo6

I don't know what a cysts copy is but that was awful. What kind of treatment was that she did anyhow? Are you sure she was a nurse
and that she worked for that doctor :-) I hope that cured it.

God Bless You,
Wiggyann

wiggyann
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   Posted 5/20/2008 10:55 AM (GMT -6)   
Dear lvdgs,

Thanks so much for your post. I really enjoyed reading it and you made my day :-) I thought maybe I was overreacting. I don't know if it will ever stop making me angry when I think about it. I hope so.

I have often wondered if she treats other men the way she treated my husband that day. Surely, one of them would have complained about it. Maybe, she sensed my husband was vulnerable and knew she could get away with it. He was very nervous and just wanted to get it over with.

I never thought about the sanitary issue... no there was no tissue. I've often wondered if the urologist knows how she handles the men she is preparing for the biopsy. Maybe he does and it's okay. I don't think so, though. She usually has about 10 or 15 minutes alone with these men until he goes back there to do the biopsy, then as soon as he is finished, he leaves.

Thanks for posting :-)
Wiggyann

ace06
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   Posted 5/20/2008 11:15 AM (GMT -6)   
I probably spelled cystscopy wrong. It is an examination of the bladder through the urethra.
Age 73
PSA 4.1 in Nov 07. 4.5 in March 08 after antibotics
Biopsy 2 Pos out of 12, 1- 70%, 1<5%
Preop Pathology 3+3 contained no postop yet
robotic surgery May 5th 08
Doing good except very wet


mlbsm
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Total Posts : 82
   Posted 5/20/2008 12:26 PM (GMT -6)   
After 64 years of having nobody else but my Mother, the boys in gym showers and my wife seeing me naked, I spent the last 3 month's with my pants off more than on.

At this point, I'd join a nudist colony and really not care.

This journey kind of numbs you to bothering about who see's your package.

Your husband will feel the same way shortly.
DIAG. 2/08
DRE POSITIVE
PSA 6.8
CONTAINED, LEFT SIDE, GLEASON 9
LUPRON, (3 MO.) 2/28
SURG, SCHED. 3/26/08
RRP, 3/26, HOME 3/31
BIOPSY REPORT:
GLEASON SCORE, 3+4
TUMOR CONFINED TO THE PROSTATE, INKED EXTERNAL SURFACE FREE OF INVOLVEMEN


Roger G
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   Posted 5/20/2008 12:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Ziggy here here... well said. All modestly was lost while walking around the urology ward toting a pee bag and passing gas. The Probe could have been the size of a baseball bat for all I cared, they numbed the area before starting anyways... that and I really need to find out if I had cancer.

Mlbsm I think you summed it all up. When my catheter plugged I really did not care who saw what. I just wanted the blockage removed and pronto!

Ace06... man I glad I was out each time the insterted a catheter. OUCH.

seriously now. Gentlemen, If you find something bothers you, or makes you feel uncomfertable say something. More than likely the problem will be addressed. It may to be corrected for you, but it will be for the next guy.
Age: 43 (2008)
DRE Small Ridge on prostate, PSA 1.5
07/2007: Diagnosed cancer, T2c, Gleason 3+4=7
09/2007: Laparoscopic prostectomy @ Hamilton General, 4 hrs.
              Both nerve bundles spared
              Pathology Report: Tumor confined w/in prostate
              T2c, Gleason is 3+3=6
              Went home with JP drain
10/2007: Made return trip to hospital.  All urine was comming out JP drain.
10/2007: Catheter removed. Next to no leakage
11/2007: 1st PSA <.003 :)
              ED: Started Viagra, no response yet.
12/2007: Had confidence to go padless!!!!!
12/2007: ED:  Stopped Viagra as it's causing hemroid problems.
01/2008: 2nd PSA <.003 :)
              ED: next to no response.
04/2008: 3nd PSA <.003 :)
              ED: next to no response.  Changed the Viagra prescription.
 


DanmanBob
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   Posted 5/20/2008 1:54 PM (GMT -6)   

I have to agree with mlbsm, Roger and ziggy on this topic, but realize that every person is different in their view of things.

I saw the biopsy instrument.  It was in full view.  I was not offended by it.  I was there to have a biopsy performed and until reading this thread, it never occured to me that it would not be in full view.  Not like someone put it in my face and taunted me with it....lol.

As for the nudity, having prostate cancer and being shy about others seeing your genitals do not go well together.  I laughed and told my wife that every medical staff person at the hospital came in to check, adjust and assess my catheter while I was in the hospital....most of those were female nurses.  One gets used to it pretty quickly.  In the grand scheme of things......concern over life and death issues related to this disease got me over any initial embarrassment QUICKLY.

Just a few weeks ago I sat in my urologist's office while we judged the quality of my erection after my first penile injection.  After everything else I have gone through, I was not embarrassed at all.

Sorry that this experience bothered you and your husband.  I hope he is doing well after his radiation treatments.  I expect to have radiation later this year.

DanMan


Danman Bob, Born 1951
Nerve-sparing, open prostate surgery November 13, 2007
Gleason score 9, PSA 14; Biopsy result - 9 of 12 sticks showed cancer
Post-op pathology stated that cancer was confined to the prostate
Unrelated surgery January 2008 delayed incontinence recovery, which is now showing good signs of improvement (fraction of a pad a day as of late April 2008)
100 MG Viagra 3 times a week beginning December 2007
Osbon Erec-Aid Esteem manual pump for therapy beginning mid-February 2008
30 MG papaverine/1 MG phentolamine bimix injections beginning late April 2008
Five week post-op PSA 0.2, five month post-op PSA 0.1, next test August 2008


Mac User
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   Posted 5/20/2008 4:37 PM (GMT -6)   
OK - I had the 20 something, pretty, nursing student examining me and have to admit it was uncomfortable ..... to break the tension (that only I felt) I thanked her for not laughing at what she saw ...... we both laughed at my comment and I was ok.
JD

Age: 50
Gleason: 7
PSA: 14.7
Robotic surgery 4/28/08
Nerves spared on both sides
Cancer contained in prostate, no margin


smilingoldcoot
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   Posted 5/20/2008 5:52 PM (GMT -6)   
I don't mean to be mean BUT your husband has much more serious things to have on his mind than being nude in front of some nurse.

After being cut on 8 times and now joining the brotherhood of the balloon, nothing I have do I consider private. The young, mostly ladies, who are my nurses have probably seen more old wrinkled hinnies than they care to count.

You husband will survive and I am sure he has not been over tramatized by being seen nude by some young nurse

Richard
Retired USAF Richard & Debbie on The Shores of Toledo Bend Lake Louisiana
Biospy 1/10/08 Gleason 10, Stage T1C  8 of 12 samples positive all Less Than 5% 
U of Florida Proton Therapy Institute
5/2/2008 LUPRON & Casodex
IMRT to start 5/16/2008 for approx 4 weeks with Proton to follow for approx 4 weeks
Turn Stumbling Blocks into Steping Stones and Keep Smiling
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kw
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   Posted 5/20/2008 10:44 PM (GMT -6)   

    As for my biopsy, the probe was hooked up with a condom already on it.  I was allowed to undress and get on the table and cover with the "paper towel" before the procedure took place.  Then I was allowed to "wipe up" and get dressed in private.

    I have had one regular cystoscope and FOUR colligen injections.  Each time I was allowed to undress and cover up on the table alone.  Then the young medical assistant came in and put the numbing solution into my penis.  I think all but once either the nurse or assistant has been in the room for the injection.  Then I had to stand at the end of the table and do the cough test to see if I was still leaking while both of them looked on.  Normally the assistant will leave then but the Doctor looks on as I empty the saline fluid out of my bladder as he checks my stream and if I can start and stop.

    There was also the time that the regular PA (a guy) asked if the new PA (a very attractive young lady) could do a DRE after he did because she had never felt where a prostate had been removed! 

   Wiggy,  I'm Sorry to hear that you were treated that way.  I would find me a new Doctor or tell them you never want that person helping you ever agian.

    Good Luck, 

    KW


    43 at Dx and Surgery
    PSA 5.7, Biopsy 3 of 12 positive (up to 75%) all on left side of prostate, Gleason 7
    RRP on Oct. 17, 2006 - Nerves on right side saved. All Lab's clear. 
    Cathiter in for 28 days due to complications in healing. Removed Nov. 9, 2006
    First Post op PSA on Dec. 11, 2006  Undetectable 0.00.
    ED workable and usable with Viagra.
    Feb. 20th, 2007 - Feb. 4th, 2008  Cystoscope, Two Collagen injections,Second Opinion Consultation for Incontinance at OU Medical Center, Bio-Feedback training, Chiropractic, Accupuncture  to try to resolve ongoing incontinance (4-6 pads a day)  All PSA's 0.00.
    Feb. 22nd, 2008 - Surgery to install the AMS AdVance Male Sling.
    March 27th, 2008 - Sling not working, Little or no improvement.
    April 18, 2008 - Collagen injection.  Back to using 4-6 full pads a day within a week.
    May 14, 2008 - Another collagen injection to try to Band-Aid the leaking for our June cruise.  Will start making conusultation appiontments for AUS after we return.
 
     


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 5/20/2008 11:07 PM (GMT -6)   

This is a sensitive thread.  I think all should consider that.

Wiggyanns husband was violated in the sense that it wasn't acceptable to him.  In much the same way that a man's bad joke in the office is harassment, so is a lack of sensitivity by a female nurse in a vulnerable situation forced by a bout with cancer.  There is already enough on ones mind that if they have a reservation about this kind of thing it has to be respected.  I too have seen enough nurses that this is easily overlooked.  I can joke that there was a day that I would have gladly have dropped 'em in front of a cute nurse.  And I wasn't looking for a laugh.  But this likely won't be the first time for Wiggyanns husband.  As we move on, our dignity is only protected by the way we accept these situations on a personal level. 

So Wiggyann,

You're right to feel this as violation, but you are not through.  During this surgery nothing is hidden.  They see it all.  The toughest part of this is for the professionals to maintain the highest standard to prevent these feelings but they are not perfect.  Afterall, they came running after the fall.  That is a good thing.  They are not used this happening.  Your husband is OK.  You have not been through anything that other professionals don't understand.  Nothing to be embarrassed by, and nothing to be ashamed of.  Just an individuals experience.  Hang in there.  you have much work to do....getting healthy again.

Tony


Age 45 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007 @ The City of Hope
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Stage pT3b (Stage III)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (1/08): <0.1
I will continue HT until May '09. 
Years in Remission (3/23/07): 1
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BillyMac
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   Posted 5/20/2008 11:11 PM (GMT -6)   
Well said TC-
I think a few may be missing the point here. Once you start on the prostate journey then you should forget about any modesty. I have lost count of the number of delightful young women that have seen me naked and handled my equipment on this PCa journey. That's the nature of this beast's treatment. But obviously this could have been handled a lot better. The nurse in question was at best, having a bad day and took it out on her patient, or ,worse, has no business being a nurse. The word "nurse" carries implications of care and consideration. Who among us has not come across health professionals that see nothing but an illness and symptoms and have no consideration for the person behind the illness, treating that person with distain. I can understand how you could become detached after seeing patient after patient (which at times may be nessarsary) but that does not give you the right to dispense with common consideration for your fellow man. nono
Bill
1/05 PSA----2.9 3/06-----3.2 3/07-------4.1 5/07------3.9 All negative DREs
Aged 59 when diagnosed
Biopsy 6/07----4 of 10 cores positive for Adenocarcinoma-------bummer!
Core 1 <5%, core 2----50%, core 3----60%, core 4----50%
Biopsy Pathologist's comment:
Gleason 4+3=7 (80% grade 4) Stage T2c
Neither extracapsular nor perineural invasion is identified
CT scan and Bone scan show no evidence of metastases
Da Vinci RP Aug 10th 2007
Post-op pathology:
Positive for perineural invasion and 1 small focal extension
Negative at surgical margins, negative node and negative vesicle involvement
Some 4+4=8 identified ........upgraded to Gleason 8
PSA Oct 07 <0.1 undetectable
PSA Jan 08 <0.1 undetectable
PSA April 08 <0.1 undetectable

Post Edited (BillyMac) : 5/20/2008 10:14:55 PM (GMT-6)


wiggyann
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   Posted 5/20/2008 11:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Kw

Thanks so much for your post and kind words. My husband was treated for prostate cancer during the first half of 2007.

We have a son who is 45 and has never been tested for psa.
I noticed that you are the same age and I wondered if you had any symtoms or if your psa was getting high when you were diagnosed?

Hope you have a wonderful time on your cruise. :-)

Thanks again,
Wiggyann

Husband
age 68 at diagnosis
psa 6.6 at biopsy
Gleason 7
8 cores postive out of 12
Stage T1c
25 IMRT and Brachytherapy

wiggyann
Regular Member


Date Joined Apr 2007
Total Posts : 171
   Posted 5/21/2008 12:33 AM (GMT -6)   
Mac User,

Your post was so funny, I laughed out loud :-)

What a good sense of humor you have.

Thanks,
Wiggyann

lawink
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Date Joined Oct 2006
Total Posts : 621
   Posted 5/21/2008 8:42 AM (GMT -6)   

Wiggy - thanks for sharing this part of your journey with all of us.  Our warm thoughts go out to you.

about your 45 yr. old son . . .he MUST get checked.  Even if just to have a "base number" to start with.  Bob's dad had prostate cancer in his late 70's and Bob started getting checked right after that time . . .his PSA was always 2 . . .the minute it climbed, action was started and the cancer was found early.  So important to keep an eye on this, especially when there is a family history.

Good luck in your journey and stay with us and keep us posted.

;o) Linda & Bob


Bob (62) - Laproscopic Prostate Removal Sept 27, 2006 at age 60.
2 of 12 malignant biopsy samples - gleason 3 + 3 = 6.
Pathology - Gleeson 3 + 4; stage T2; cancer completely contained, even a second more aggressive, previously undetected cancer) PSA UNDETECTABLE Nov 2006; Feb, May, Oct 2007; May 2008.  WHOOO HOOOO! 
Bob also has two secondary conditions -- Polycythemia (elevated red & white cells & platelets) and . . Myelofibrosis) -- If anyone has experience with or information on these, please email us.

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