Jim, 54,~Jim-N1BRP. My JourneyDiagnosed: 12Nov. '07, Age 54
Treatment Started : 31 Jan 08
Completed 31 Mar 08
42 treatments 1.8 Gy M-F for a total of 75.6 Gy.
Prostate Biopsy: 18Sept '06, - 10 sample all negative, Prostate size 36.3 cc
Prostate Biopsy : 12Nov '07, Biopsy - 14 sample 2 positive, one Gleason 6 at 5 %, other Gleason 6 at 15%- Stage T1C -Prostate size 40.2 cc
Bone Scan: 12Dec '07, - Hot Spot on BrainFamily history: Father and two uncles die from PCa
Other: GERD, 30% Carotid artery blockage, Kidney Cyst, Asthma
Meds, Hytrin, BusPIRone, Trazodone, Tramadol HCl, Omeprazole, Plavix, Albuterol, Multi Vitamin Mens
1.2 Oct 05
3.61 Jul 06
2.6 Sept 06 19%
2.6 Apr 07 3% Oh NO
Post Edited (Roger G) : 5/20/2008 7:34:19 AM (GMT-6)
Wiggyann, aside from the fact that she treated your husband that way I would question the sanitary issue of people sitting on chairs with no clothes on unless there was a tissue sheet under him. As us women know, we lost our modesty years ago when it comes to going to doctors. Your husband sounds like mine, he would just do as he was told and not speak up and ask for a sheet etc. I would write a letter to the urologist explaining what happened and how demoralized your husband felt, he may not be aware of how his patients are being treated as all of this reflects back to him. Your husband has a right to be comfortable around his doctor and his office staff. This situation is bad enough to go through no one should have to endure added stress such as what happend to him.
Geezzz, I'm getting madder about it the more I write..people should never be treated like they are cows.
I have to agree with mlbsm, Roger and ziggy on this topic, but realize that every person is different in their view of things.
I saw the biopsy instrument. It was in full view. I was not offended by it. I was there to have a biopsy performed and until reading this thread, it never occured to me that it would not be in full view. Not like someone put it in my face and taunted me with it....lol.
As for the nudity, having prostate cancer and being shy about others seeing your genitals do not go well together. I laughed and told my wife that every medical staff person at the hospital came in to check, adjust and assess my catheter while I was in the hospital....most of those were female nurses. One gets used to it pretty quickly. In the grand scheme of things......concern over life and death issues related to this disease got me over any initial embarrassment QUICKLY.
Just a few weeks ago I sat in my urologist's office while we judged the quality of my erection after my first penile injection. After everything else I have gone through, I was not embarrassed at all.
Sorry that this experience bothered you and your husband. I hope he is doing well after his radiation treatments. I expect to have radiation later this year.
As for my biopsy, the probe was hooked up with a condom already on it. I was allowed to undress and get on the table and cover with the "paper towel" before the procedure took place. Then I was allowed to "wipe up" and get dressed in private.
I have had one regular cystoscope and FOUR colligen injections. Each time I was allowed to undress and cover up on the table alone. Then the young medical assistant came in and put the numbing solution into my penis. I think all but once either the nurse or assistant has been in the room for the injection. Then I had to stand at the end of the table and do the cough test to see if I was still leaking while both of them looked on. Normally the assistant will leave then but the Doctor looks on as I empty the saline fluid out of my bladder as he checks my stream and if I can start and stop.
There was also the time that the regular PA (a guy) asked if the new PA (a very attractive young lady) could do a DRE after he did because she had never felt where a prostate had been removed!
Wiggy, I'm Sorry to hear that you were treated that way. I would find me a new Doctor or tell them you never want that person helping you ever agian.
This is a sensitive thread. I think all should consider that.
Wiggyanns husband was violated in the sense that it wasn't acceptable to him. In much the same way that a man's bad joke in the office is harassment, so is a lack of sensitivity by a female nurse in a vulnerable situation forced by a bout with cancer. There is already enough on ones mind that if they have a reservation about this kind of thing it has to be respected. I too have seen enough nurses that this is easily overlooked. I can joke that there was a day that I would have gladly have dropped 'em in front of a cute nurse. And I wasn't looking for a laugh. But this likely won't be the first time for Wiggyanns husband. As we move on, our dignity is only protected by the way we accept these situations on a personal level.
You're right to feel this as violation, but you are not through. During this surgery nothing is hidden. They see it all. The toughest part of this is for the professionals to maintain the highest standard to prevent these feelings but they are not perfect. Afterall, they came running after the fall. That is a good thing. They are not used this happening. Your husband is OK. You have not been through anything that other professionals don't understand. Nothing to be embarrassed by, and nothing to be ashamed of. Just an individuals experience. Hang in there. you have much work to do....getting healthy again.
Post Edited (BillyMac) : 5/20/2008 10:14:55 PM (GMT-6)
Wiggy - thanks for sharing this part of your journey with all of us. Our warm thoughts go out to you.
about your 45 yr. old son . . .he MUST get checked. Even if just to have a "base number" to start with. Bob's dad had prostate cancer in his late 70's and Bob started getting checked right after that time . . .his PSA was always 2 . . .the minute it climbed, action was started and the cancer was found early. So important to keep an eye on this, especially when there is a family history.
Good luck in your journey and stay with us and keep us posted.
;o) Linda & Bob