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Bob D
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Date Joined Mar 2008
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   Posted 5/31/2008 1:08 AM (GMT -6)   
It has not been quite 3 months since my surgery and I could not be happier with my nerve sparing procedure.
Contenince is great and erections have improved greatly. Though not as good as pre op, (maintaining them has been a challenge), they are better than I could have hoped for at this stage. I have used no medications so far. After a hard day working in the yard, my wife & I decided to get in our hot tub. Something we haven't done for a while. Well, it was the greatest so far. Maybe I was more relaxed, the hot water, I do not know for sure. But it worked for both of us.
Now to get good news at my 3 month psa check.
Thanks for this great forum.

Age 59, psa 4.7 in Jan. 08. Biopsy: one positive sample out of 13. 1% of one sample cancer. Prostate removed on 3/5/08. Nerves spared. Cath out 12 days later. Continence good. Only insurance pad when going out. First erection five days post op and have been improving well since then. Full erection now possible but not as easy to maintain as pre op. But I am pleased with the progress so far. Married to same wonderful woman for 39 years.
She is still beautiful and sexy as ever. A great help in my recovery !!


biker90
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Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 1455
   Posted 5/31/2008 9:49 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey Bob,

Can you recommend a good hot tub supplier? lol, just kidding...

Jim
Age 73. Diagnosed 11/03/06. PSA 7.05. Stage T2C Gleason 3+3.
RRP 12/7/06. Nerves and nodes okay.
Catheter out on 12/13/06.  Dry on 12/14/06.
Pathological stage: T2C N0 MX. Gleason 3+4.
50 mg Viagra + 1000 mg L-Arginine + .03 cc Trimix = Excellent Results
PSAs from  1/3/07 - 1/17/08 0.00. 
Next PSA test on 7/17/08
"Patience is essential, attitude is everything."


Bob D
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Date Joined Mar 2008
Total Posts : 187
   Posted 5/31/2008 11:43 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Jim,
I purchased the cheapest hot tub I could find.
 
Seriously, I am sorry to hear about your setback.
We are all praying for you and hoping you will come through
this fine.
Bob
Age 59, psa 4.7 in Jan. 08. Biopsy: one positive sample out of 13. 1% of one sample cancer. Prostate removed on 3/5/08. Nerves spared. Cath out 12 days later. Continence good. Only insurance pad when going out. First erection five days post op and have been improving well since then. Full erection now possible but not as easy to maintain as pre op. But I am pleased with the progress so far. Married to same wonderful woman for 39 years.
She is still beautiful and sexy as ever. A great help in my recovery !!


Bluenose
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Date Joined May 2008
Total Posts : 260
   Posted 5/31/2008 12:16 PM (GMT -6)   

 

...well, I'll tell you guys what, I've been reading and taking in all of the advice and experience you all have to offer, and it's great to have this forum and all of you here.....but now.......I have to go out and get myself a hot tub for that post op recovery!   Sounds like a pretty good plan..lol


 
   age: 53
   Pre-0p PSA  Feb. 08, 5.0
      4.22.08, 4.1
      PSA had spiked once about 8yrs ago to 5.0 three months later
      back to 2.9...then into the 1.2 range until my re-scheduled 
      "missed" appointment this past Feb.
      Biopsy 5.1.08 
      Gleason-3+4=7
      T2a
      5 of 15 cores positive
      Da Vinci scheduled..7.29.08..as I read somewhere on this 
      site....."the first show of the day"


Bob D
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Date Joined Mar 2008
Total Posts : 187
   Posted 5/31/2008 10:43 PM (GMT -6)   
If I could only figure out a way to get my insurance to pay for it.
yeah  
Age 59, psa 4.7 in Jan. 08. Biopsy: one positive sample out of 13. 1% of one sample cancer. Prostate removed on 3/5/08. Nerves spared. Cath out 12 days later. Continence good. Only insurance pad when going out. First erection five days post op and have been improving well since then. Full erection now possible but not as easy to maintain as pre op. But I am pleased with the progress so far. Married to same wonderful woman for 39 years.
She is still beautiful and sexy as ever. A great help in my recovery !!


PianoMan
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Date Joined Feb 2007
Total Posts : 365
   Posted 6/1/2008 12:37 AM (GMT -6)   
Congrats Bob D.!! Nice to hear that things are "looking up" and only three months out with no meds!! FANTASTIC.
However -- not to burst a happy balloon here, but I was told that post-op guys should avoid hot tubs for at least six weeks or so after surgery. Something to do with the internal coagulation/healing process.

So to all you recent post-op guys, I say avoid soaking in hot water until you consult with your doc.

Best to ya,
Tom

D.O.B - 8/9/52

PSA: First ever was 9.8 in late Oct. ‘06, two weeks later, 10.1

DRE: Negative

Biopsy results 11/22/06.  Both lobes involved.  Six out of eight cores positive - from 100 percent to 90, to 60, to 50, two 20s and two zeros.

Gleason 3+3 = 6

Da Vinci Robotic RP surgery, City of Hope, Jan 12, 2007

Post surgery pathology – Organ confined, Gleason still 6, margins clear.  Volume of tumor much less than biopsy suggested.  12 percent overall.

First post-surgery PSA -- Undetectable, 2/20/07

Second post-surgery PSA -- Undetectable, 9/11/07

Third post-surgery PSA -- Undetactable, 2/15/08

Surgery for bilateral inguinal hernia repair, 4/4/08 


Lungman
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Date Joined Jan 2008
Total Posts : 276
   Posted 6/2/2008 5:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Dang it, now I have to go buy a hot tub!!!

Randy
46 you when diagnosed, now 47
Pre-Op PSA 9.9
1 of 12 cores positive, Gleason 3+3
DaVinci on 9/5/2007
Post-Op Gleason 3+6, Negative Nodes and Margins
Less than 1% of prostate involved with CA
3 Month PSA 0.01, 6 Month PSA 0.01
Incontinence resolved 9/15/2007, one day after cath removal
ED showing significant improvement.
Cialis 5 mg every night.
Success with BiMix


Frank1205
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Date Joined Feb 2008
Total Posts : 308
   Posted 6/2/2008 10:06 PM (GMT -6)   

Hey Holy Cow!!!!!  What am I thinking???  I got a hot tub all fired up and I have not been using it except for the grand child to play in.  Thats it.   Grand Daughter out, Wife in.  Got to buy some big drapes though.

Thanks,  I am going to give this a try...... tongue tongue

Frank


Diagnosed 01-08-08 @ 53 years old 
DRE normal - High PSA for 5 or more years
2004 Biospy negative - 2008 Biopsy positive (01-08-08)
10 cores, 1 positive and at 1% of that one core
Current PSA 6 - Bone and Ct scans negative
clinicalg Staged at T1C - Gleason 3+3 = 6
Robotic Da Vinci performed March 27th, 2008
University of Chicago,5 hour surgery , 3 hour recovery
Unexpected Cardiac issues appear and disappear?
Hospital stay 30 hours - Catheter out in 7 days  normaly expected leakage - Erectile funtion back on line 9 days 
Post Pathology T2C, Gleason 7, 10 % of both portions of prostate, Seminal vessels clear, fat tissue clear,Tumor on top of prostate distal from apex. 1 positve margin at urethra and bladder.
Six week PSA < 0.05 Ya Ba Da Ba Dooooooooooo.  Put a steak on the grill Wilma!!!!
Oncologist to discuss case with Urologist and Radiation Oncologist to consider radiation.
 


jerryg
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Date Joined Feb 2007
Total Posts : 30
   Posted 6/3/2008 8:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Ha - save your money and just go take a hot shower with your wife.  I have taken many hot tubs soaks in the 16 months since a RRP and never once did I get a rise out of "Willey".  One evening I was messing around in the shower with her and low and behold, Willie stood up and came alive.  Doesn't work all the time, score hottub-0%, shower 75%.  Worth a try and alot cheaper.
Prostate Cancer diagnosed Dec. 18, 2006
Biopsy 12/13/2006 Gleason score = 3+5=8
RRP Jan. 5, 2007
Pathology - negative margins from succesful surgery
10 mg Cilias M_W_F for 8 weeks
Almost no leakage after 5 weeks
Used Vacurect pump for 4 weeks before useable erection.
Presently using injections - PGE and Trimix caused really bad pain.
Now using Bimix - Bingo, good times are back.
1-yr PSA .02


BamaCoast
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Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 39
   Posted 6/4/2008 9:30 PM (GMT -6)   
Bob,

I also had my robotic surgery on March 5th in Birmingham. I will be going back later this month for my first post op psa and I am almost dry. When I go back I will be going through the ed clinic on self injections. My ed problems have not progress as much as yours but it is coming back slowly.

My wife and I also have a hot springs hot tub and really enjoy it. After reading your post I think we need to try it tonight.


BamaCoast - Kenny & Renae
from the Gulf Coast of Alabama
Age 51
Di Vinci Robotic Surgery March 5th, 2008
by Dr. Scott Tully
PSA 3.5  Gleason 3+4= 7
Confined to Prostate
1st PSA will be May 9th
 


Bob D
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Date Joined Mar 2008
Total Posts : 187
   Posted 6/4/2008 10:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Kenny,
Best of luck on your 3 month psa check.
Also on the ED. I guess patience is the key but the
good news is it's coming back.
Now have fun in the spa !!
Age 59, psa 4.7 in Jan. 08. Biopsy: one positive sample out of 13. 1% of one sample cancer. Prostate removed on 3/5/08. Nerves spared. Cath out 12 days later. Continence good. Only insurance pad when going out. First erection five days post op and have been improving well since then. Full erection now possible but not as easy to maintain as pre op. But I am pleased with the progress so far. Married to same wonderful woman for 39 years.
She is still beautiful and sexy as ever. A great help in my recovery !!


BamaCoast
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Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 39
   Posted 6/4/2008 10:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Just got out and it helped a little. Had fun anyway....haha :-) :-)


BamaCoast - Kenny & Renae
from the Gulf Coast of Alabama
Age 51
Di Vinci Robotic Surgery March 5th, 2008
by Dr. Scott Tully
PSA 3.5  Gleason 3+4= 7
Confined to Prostate
1st PSA will be May 9th
 


Bob D
Regular Member


Date Joined Mar 2008
Total Posts : 187
   Posted 6/5/2008 1:18 AM (GMT -6)   
I hope you read my disclaimer,( Individual results may vary. )
At least you had fun. Having a great wife helps greatly as you
probably know.
I do know that prostate removal does not decrease the libido.
In fact I have more desire now than ever. Except maybe not more than when I
was a 19 year old Navy guy. devil LOL. 
Age 59, psa 4.7 in Jan. 08. Biopsy: one positive sample out of 13. 1% of one sample cancer. Prostate removed on 3/5/08. Nerves spared. Cath out 12 days later. Continence good. Only insurance pad when going out. First erection five days post op and have been improving well since then. Full erection now possible but not as easy to maintain as pre op. But I am pleased with the progress so far. Married to same wonderful woman for 39 years.
She is still beautiful and sexy as ever. A great help in my recovery !!


Mike A
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Date Joined Feb 2007
Total Posts : 213
   Posted 6/5/2008 9:07 AM (GMT -6)   
We tried it last night, and while it didn't do a thing for my ED, it sure helped my sore back!
Best,
Mike
June 2005 - Age 53 PSA 4.8 at regular physical October 2005 - After several rounds of anti-biotics, PSA 5.2 at Urlogist November 2005 - Biopsy negative July 2006 - PSA 5.9 at regular Physical October 2006 - After several more rounds of anti-biotics PSA 8.1 November 2006 - Second biopsy - Positive December 2006 - Gleason (3+4=7), Tumor T1c, CT Scan and Bone Scan Negative
January 2, 2007 Robotic Prostatectomy, University of Rochester Medical Center - Tumor confined but larger than thought, only one nerve able to be spared. Margins clear. February 2007 - Three to fo ur pads a day, no erection with viagara. April 2007 - First Post-Surgical PSA 0.02. Down to one pad a day.July, 2007 - Six Month Post-op: PSA 0.04 No change in ED. October, 2007 - Nine Month Post-op: PSA back down to 0.02!Almost totally dry! Only slight improvement in ED - Will try injections if not improved by next appointment. January 2008: One Year Post-OP PSA 0.02 still dripping, but improving. Tried 500 dose of MUSE for ED, no luck. Will try 1000.

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