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Paul1959
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   Posted 8/20/2008 9:01 AM (GMT -6)   
A lot of us are in the same boat when it comes to partial erections - they're encouraging, but not exactly usable. Even with Viagra it is not at 100%. The frustration is that it gets headed in the right direction, but then deflates without warning.
 I did some reading and decided to try a constriction ring, or as known in the business a cock ring.  I stopped into a local sex shop (NOT the ones with the video booths in the back!) and did some research.  Believe it or not, the clerk was really helpful and it wasn't in the least bit weird or uncomfortable. Anyway, he showed me several types and I finally chose an adjustable surgical rubber ring. It looks like a lassoo with two tails. it is surgical rubber tubing that passes through two different plastic tubes. You put it on and tighten only as much as you need to or are comfortable with. Believe it or not, the results were great. After some foreplay with my wife, and a lot of MB, it got plenty firm enough for penetration. You can imagine, it was great.
 
I am just putting this out there to encourage other guys in the same boat to get over the feelings about going into one of "those" stores and try these out. It was cheap - about $5.
My wife thanked me for getting it!  Here is a website so you can see what one of these looks like. Mine is a bit different, but it's the same basic idea. http://www.sextoysex.com/sex/start/view.html?a=dwsextoys&pnum=SE5651-00
 
anyway, for those of us in the "in between" stage of recovery, these things really do help and are not at all painful.
 
Just sharing with the bros...
Paul
47 at Diagnosis.
Father died of Pca 4/07 at 86.
1/06 PSA 3.15
1/07 PSA 4.6      (Biopsy 3/07 just suspicious)
10/07 PSA 5.06   (Biopsy 11/07  1 of 12 with 8% involvment) (1mm)
Da Vinci surgery Jan 5, '08 at Mt. Sinai Hosp. NYC  www.roboticoncology.com
Saved both nerve bundles.
Path Report:  Stage T2cNxMx
-Gleason (3+3)6
-totally contained to prostate,
-10% involvement in L & R Mid lobes
PSA 0 at six weeks
Pad free on March 14 - (10 weeks.)
ED - Take 100mg viagra every night.
Totally usable erections at 10 weeks.
 
 


Bob D
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Total Posts : 187
   Posted 8/21/2008 12:10 AM (GMT -6)   
Those rings work great. I used them even pre op. 
I have an assortment of rubber o-rings along with the item you mentioned.
My partial erections become full & firm erections more than enough for penetration
with just 10mg of Cialis. Have you tried Cialis? It is the only ED med that gives me
no side effects. yeah
Age 59, psa 4.7 in Jan. 08. Biopsy: one positive sample out of 13. 1% of one sample cancer. Prostate removed on 3/5/08. Open Surgery. Northeast Georgia Medical Center, Gainesville Ga. Nerves spared. Cath out 12 days later. Continence good. No pads needed since 6/10/08. First PSA: Less than 0.1 on 6/17/08. First erection five days post op and have been improving well since then. Full erection now possible (less than four months post op) with the assistance of Cialis. I am pleased with the progress so far. Married to same wonderful woman for 39 years.
She is still beautiful and sexy as ever. A great help in my recovery !!


Roger G
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   Posted 8/21/2008 10:11 AM (GMT -6)   
Just a word of advice. If your planning of using a necktie of little willy, you might want to give him a hair cut first.....
Age: 43 (2008)
DRE Small Ridge on prostate, PSA 1.5
07/2007: Diagnosed cancer, T2c, Gleason 3+4=7
09/2007: Laparoscopic prostectomy @ Hamilton General, 4 hrs.
              Both nerve bundles spared
              Pathology Report: Tumor confined w/in prostate
              T2c, Gleason is 3+3=6
              Went home with JP drain
10/2007: Made return trip to hospital.  All urine was comming out JP drain.
10/2007: Catheter removed. Next to no leakage
11/2007: 1st PSA <.003 :)
              ED: Started Viagra, no response yet.
12/2007: Had confidence to go padless!!!!!
12/2007: ED:  Stopped Viagra as it's causing hemroid problems.
01/2008: 2nd PSA <.003 :)
              ED: next to no response.
04/2008: 3nd PSA <.003 :)
              ED: next to no response.  Changed the Viagra prescription.
07/2008: 4nd PSA <.003 :)
              ED: Still NADA.  Changing to Cialis.
 


R&PK
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   Posted 8/22/2008 1:31 PM (GMT -6)   

Paul,

I always find your information very honest and useful.   You have described exactly where my husband is in his recovery.   I will investigate where to obtain the rings at local shops as well as the website you have offered.    Again, thanks for always providing relative information to  pc survivors. 

Pat and Roger


Age 55
PSA 2005 - 2.5
PSA 2007 - 4.9
Biopsy - Dec. 2007.  1 of 12 cores - 15% cancer
Gleason 3+3
DaVinci - 4/24/08 - Dr. Michael Esposito - Hackensack Univ. Hosp., NJ
Post Op. Gleason 3+4
Both nerves spared
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Piano
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   Posted 8/22/2008 5:42 PM (GMT -6)   
I have total ED and find a cock ring of the style Paul described does not work for  me. I have difficulty in pulling it tight enough, and also find that skin tends to get pinched in the connecting beads. Ouch!
 
However, when (if!) I regain natural function, and when less tension is required I expect it to be useful.
 
The best solution I find for now is office rubber bands. Mine are a little under 2" diameter and 1/8" wide -- I don't imagine the size is too critical. Doubled over to give two loops, one gives a snug fit. I normally use four or five this way on top of each other. Those less challenged on the ED front will need fewer.
 
They work well in conjunction with a cheap VED, fitting snugly just inside the base and when carefully placed don't interfere with the seal at the base of the VED.
 
The beauty of bands is they are cheap and easy to buy. They are very adjustable. If you need more or less constriction, adjust the number of bands. You could cut them off if you need to -- without breaking the bank. But I find them fairly easy to remove one loop at a time. 



Age 63. Other than cancer, in good health; BMI 20
Pre-op: No symptoms; PSA 5.7; Gleason 4+5=9; cancer in 4 of 12 cores
7 March 2008, RRP, non nerve sparing
Two nights in hospital; catheter and staples out after 7 days
Continent, no pads needed from the get-go
Post Op: Stage pT2 M- N-; clear margins and lymph nodes; Gleason 4+4=8; prostate weight: 37gm
6-week PSA: 0 


Tony1951
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Total Posts : 49
   Posted 8/24/2008 7:31 PM (GMT -6)   

When I was around 13-years-old I stayed over night at a friends house.  My friend had a younger brother who apparently was embarrassed  at the thought my being made aware of his bed wetting.  To resolve his concerns, he placed a rubber band around the base of his penis.  I woke up to him screaming and his family moving about the house -  I thought the place was on fire.  When I jumped up to leave, the boy with the rubber band was leaving with his parents and it was apparent that he was terribly swollen.  I've never used the cock ring, and am wondering how safe it is.  I've got enough problems now without having it fall off.  (I don't know what shape my reproductive (pass tense I suppose) organs will be in after the HT and IMRT.   Sooo, do the rings work? How do you know when your being a little to rough on the little guy?

 



Piano
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   Posted 8/24/2008 11:51 PM (GMT -6)   

The rings really do work -- assuming you can get enough blood flow in there in the first place! They stop or slow down the venous outflow, which would otherwise lead to the collapse of the erection. Interestingly, the veins (outflow) lie near the surface, while the arteries (inflow) are near the center. Consequently with the right amount of constriction, you can still have inflow (eg caused by stimulation or VED) while inhibiting the outflow.

The usual advice is not to leave the rings on for more than half an hour, which is usually plenty of time to do the business. 

If you think what happens during normal sex, the little guy takes a real beating. I suggest if you feel more than a little discomfort with constriction, you are being too rough -- take that as a warning to ease off a bit.

We're all different and at different stages of our "recovery". We each need to find the amount of constriction that works for us. I'm sure that experimenting with a little constriction at first, and building up gradually will do no harm, and maybe a lot of good. Upwards and inwards   smilewinkgrin   


Age 63. Other than cancer, in good health; BMI 20
Pre-op: No symptoms; PSA 5.7; Gleason 4+5=9; cancer in 4 of 12 cores
7 March 2008, RRP, non nerve sparing
Two nights in hospital; catheter and staples out after 7 days
Continent, no pads needed from the get-go
Post Op: Stage pT2 M- N-; clear margins and lymph nodes; Gleason 4+4=8; prostate weight: 37gm
6-week PSA: 0 


Paul1959
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   Posted 8/25/2008 10:46 AM (GMT -6)   

That poor kid!  Of course, any constriction tight enough to stop urine flow is also going to stop blood flow..and couple that with normal nocturnal erections, that kid really could have had some serious long term problems. Hope he didn't.

the thing I like about the adjustable rings is you can put it on, then tighten it to your comfort level. I am NOT talking about using these in conjunction with a pump. Those rings with the pump hurt me and I did  not like them. The adjustable rings are comfortable and you will find that they will need to be loosened or tightened a bit differently each time. Yes, i use them with viagra and the combination  of extra blood flow and a bit of a noose around the base makes for a very usable erection most of the time. True, somedays, as we all know, nothing is gonna wake the thing up, but a ring is a big help overall.

Yes, half an hour is about the right amount for a tight ring, but the adjustable rings - because they tend to be a bit looser - can be left on longer. you can certainly tell when it's time to take it off - things will just get sore.

One more word of caution. Do get the ring made of a rubber tube - NOT the one with the plastic line. The tube is much more comfortable. The plastic line digs in too much.

Experiment and have fun. while you're in the store, take a look at other things you might want to try. Life and sex has changed for all of us...it just requires a bit more imagination and fun!


47 at Diagnosis.
Father died of Pca 4/07 at 86.
1/06 PSA 3.15
1/07 PSA 4.6      (Biopsy 3/07 just suspicious)
10/07 PSA 5.06   (Biopsy 11/07  1 of 12 with 8% involvment) (1mm)
Da Vinci surgery Jan 5, '08 at Mt. Sinai Hosp. NYC  www.roboticoncology.com
Saved both nerve bundles.
Path Report:  Stage T2cNxMx
-Gleason (3+3)6
-totally contained to prostate,
-10% involvement in L & R Mid lobes
PSA 0 at six weeks
Pad free on March 14 - (10 weeks.)
ED - Take 100mg viagra every night.
Totally usable erections at 10 weeks.
 
 


JoelS
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Date Joined Aug 2008
Total Posts : 6
   Posted 8/28/2008 10:10 AM (GMT -6)   
I am confused about how you wear one. Some instructions say to put just "little willie" in there, and some say the the "family jewels" should be included too.

What say y'all?
Joel

Pete trips again!
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Total Posts : 1899
   Posted 8/28/2008 10:36 AM (GMT -6)   
Yo Paulie, you wildman! I was that kid w/ the rubberband just practicing for future problems! Thanks for the advice on the phone, I tried it, I liked it! You were right, the adjustable rings are worlds above the rubber O-rings.
Oh Joel S. NO JEWELS!!! Please, just Big Mr. Willie!
Your friend,
Pete
55 years old, Surgury, Radical Prostatectomy 8/20/03, PSA 6.6, Gleason 3 + 3 = 6, Adenocarcinoma extent (moderate) Stage & Margin:T2NOMX, No Metastases, Organ Confined, bone scan: Neg. 3 1/2 years of depression after surgery prior to Hypogonadizm DX, Testosterone Theropy (Testim Gel)since 12/06 but switched to a higher dose of (Androgel) 6/08. Fighting to stay upbeat daily. I am's what I am's and that's all that I am's! (Popeye)  55 and still alive!!! Feel free to pray for me, I can use all the help I can get!!!


Bob D
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Date Joined Mar 2008
Total Posts : 187
   Posted 8/28/2008 8:09 PM (GMT -6)   
One around the base of willy works great. You can put a second one around the "boys" also.
That will keep everything front and center !!! smilewinkgrin
Age 59, psa 4.7 in Jan. 08. Biopsy: one positive sample out of 13. 1% of one sample cancer. Prostate removed on 3/5/08. Open Surgery. Northeast Georgia Medical Center, Gainesville Ga. Nerves spared. Cath out 12 days later. Continence good. No pads needed since 6/10/08. First PSA: Less than 0.1 on 6/17/08. First erection five days post op and have been improving well since then. Full erection now possible (less than four months post op) with the assistance of Cialis. I am pleased with the progress so far. Married to same wonderful woman for 39 years.
She is still beautiful and sexy as ever. A great help in my recovery !!


JoelS
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Date Joined Aug 2008
Total Posts : 6
   Posted 8/29/2008 10:02 AM (GMT -6)   
It worked! I bought one, and it was great. Thanks for the suggestion. I also bought a toy for my wife. TGIF

Age 55
Pca open surgery 10/08
Hackensack NJ
Final Path:
Gleason 3+4
no mets
Dry at week 13
Waiting for wood
Viagra 100mg


Paul1959
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Date Joined Nov 2007
Total Posts : 597
   Posted 8/29/2008 10:40 AM (GMT -6)   
YAHOO! Score one for uninhibited fun sex! The toys for the wife are a huge help...and a salve to our ego....when things don't quite function as they should. A nice vibrator and some love will help make up for the fact that we aren't working quite the way we used to.

The rings around the jewels are for looks and a fun sensation for you. The jewels contract tight up against the body at point of orgasm. These rings hold them down and give a boost to the orgasm...it's just a different sensation.

Dr. Ruth Westheimer would be proud of us all! Or it's now "Talk Sex With Sue" on the O channel.

Glad you guys tried it out. maybe we can get more guys to make use of the healthy aspect of the adult industry!
Paul
47 at Diagnosis.
Father died of Pca 4/07 at 86.
1/06 PSA 3.15
1/07 PSA 4.6      (Biopsy 3/07 just suspicious)
10/07 PSA 5.06   (Biopsy 11/07  1 of 12 with 8% involvment) (1mm)
Da Vinci surgery Jan 5, '08 at Mt. Sinai Hosp. NYC  www.roboticoncology.com
Saved both nerve bundles.
Path Report:  Stage T2cNxMx
-Gleason (3+3)6
-totally contained to prostate,
-10% involvement in L & R Mid lobes
PSA 0 at six weeks
Pad free on March 14 - (10 weeks.)
ED - Take 100mg viagra every night.
Totally usable erections at 10 weeks.
 
 


Bob D
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Date Joined Mar 2008
Total Posts : 187
   Posted 9/1/2008 11:53 PM (GMT -6)   
They do work great. Try putting that adjustment ball on top at the base of your penis.
It will not only put slight pressure on this spot but your woman will really love the
way it feels there.
Age 59, psa 4.7 in Jan. 08. Biopsy: one positive sample out of 13. 1% of one sample cancer. Prostate removed on 3/5/08. Open Surgery. Northeast Georgia Medical Center, Gainesville Ga. Nerves spared. Cath out 12 days later. Continence good. No pads needed since 6/10/08. First PSA: Less than 0.1 on 6/17/08. First erection five days post op and have been improving well since then. Full erection now possible (less than four months post op) with the assistance of Cialis. I am pleased with the progress so far. Married to same wonderful woman for 39 years.
She is still beautiful and sexy as ever. A great help in my recovery !!

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