A learning- kidney stones after surgery

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James C.
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   Posted 7/28/2009 12:31 PM (GMT -6)   
I passed my first kidney stone after my surgery this morning. My past experience has been really bad, considering I had severe BPH from a 110gm. prostate. Made letting the stones thru a difficult proposition. Todays episode was much better, once the stone had moved around my side from the kidney to the bladder. There's not much new you can do with one during passage, but pain killers and ibuprufen with lots of water to dilate and flush it out sooner. Once it drops into the bladder, it was a non-issue then. I thought it had passed to the bladder, but was still having pain in the flank, so wasn't really expecting anything when I went to pee for the first time after the change. Plop! out it came, unexpectedly and with no pain or any warning. A good sized one too, size of a small grape seed, but raggedier... That old swollen prostate sure didn't interfere this time. Total time of misery- 1 hr, 45 minutes....ah, now that's better!!!!!!!!!!!!!! smilewinkgrin
James C. Age 62
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/07 Biopsy: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe, GS 3/3=6
9/07 Nerve sparing open RRP 110gms.- Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Stg. pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
22 mts: ED- 50 mg Viagra 3X week, pump daily,Trimix 30/1/20-.10ml 2X week continues
PSA's: .04 each test since surgery


Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 7/28/2009 1:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh, how the simple things in life can be so rewarding smilewinkgrin

LV-TX
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   Posted 7/28/2009 3:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Well James...you don't find this listed as a side effect for having prostate surgery anywhere. Maybe you can let all the doctors and surgeons know about this side effect and new benefit....jk
You are beating back cancer, so hold your head up with dignity
 
Les
 
Age 58 at Diagnosis
Oct 2006 - PSA 2.6 - DRE Normal
May 2008 - PSA 4.6 - DRE Normal / TRUS normal
July 2008 - Biopsy 4 of 12 Positive 5 - 30% Involved Bilateral w/PNI - Gleason (3+3)6 Stage T1C
Robotic Surgery Sept 18, 2008
Pathology October 1, 2008 - Gleason 7 (3+4) Staged pT2c NO MX - Gland 50 cc
Seminal Vesicles and Lymph Nodes clear
Positive Margins Right Posterior Lobe
PSA 5 week Oct 2008 <.05
                   3 month Jan 2009 .06
                   6 month April 2009 .06


goodlife
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   Posted 7/28/2009 3:42 PM (GMT -6)   
I had my 3 cm stone out before RP. 2 lithotripsies, and a long set of crushing jaws later, it was out.

That was baqd enough. Can't really imagine passing one down the old injured pee hole.
Age 58, PSA 4.47 Biopsy - 2/12 cores , Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
Da Vinci, Cleveland Clinic  4/14/09   Nerves spared
0/23 lymph nodes involved  pT3a NO MX
Catheter and 2 stints in ureters for 2 weeks due to anatomical issues with location of ureters with respect to bladder neck.  Try 3 tubes where no tubes are supposed to be for 2 weeks !
Neg Margins, bladder neck negative
Living the Good Life, cancer free  6 week PSA  <.03
3 month PSA <.01 (different lab)


Purgatory
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   Posted 7/28/2009 5:31 PM (GMT -6)   
James, sorry you had to go through such a painful ordeal, hope that's the last for you for awhile.
Age 57, 56 at DX, PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3,9/8 14.5
3rd Biopsy Sept 08: Positive 7 of 7 cores, 40-90%, Gleason 7, 4+3
Open RP surgery 11/14/8, Right nerves spared, 4 days hospital, staples out 11/24/8, 5th cath out on 1/19/9
 Pathlogy Report:Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c, 42 grm, tumor 20%, Contained in capsule, one post. margin, clear lymph nodes 
2009 PSA   2/9 .05, 5/9 .10, 6/9 .11, 8/11 ?
Lastest 7/13 met with Rad. Oncl, considering options, 7/20 Catheter #6 after complete blockage, scarring closed up bladder neck, again
 
 


geezer99
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   Posted 7/28/2009 8:50 PM (GMT -6)   
OK
As I see it a member has posted a thread whose topic is “I enjoy passing kidney stones” under normal circumstances I would call for a moderator who would direct the poor fellow to the appropriate mental health site. Since that is not an option here, I can only say that it is an ill wind that blows no good.
Thanks for reminding us that even difficult situations can be a positive.
Age at diagnosis 66, PSA 5.5
Biopsy 12/08 12 cores, 8 positive
Gleason 3+4=7
CAT scan, Bone scan 1/09 both negative.

Robotic surgery 03/03/09 Catheter Out 03/08/09
Pathology: Lymph nodes & Seminal vesicles negative
Margins positive, Capsular penetration extensive Gleason 4+3=7
6 weeks: 1 pad/day, 1 pad/night -- mostly dry at night.
10 weeks: no pad at night -- slight leakage day/1 pad.
3 mo. PSA 0.0 - now light pads


Sleepless09
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Date Joined Jul 2009
Total Posts : 1262
   Posted 7/28/2009 9:11 PM (GMT -6)   
Ouch! I ache just thinking about it James --- and you are such a gung ho guy, you see a silver lining. You are amazing!

May what's passed be gone and no more follow.

Sheldon AKA Sleepless
Age 67 in Apil '09 at news of 4 of 12 cores positive T2B and Gleason 3 + 3 and 5% to 25% PSA 1.5
Re-read of slides in June said Gleason 3 + 4 same four cores 5% to 15%
June 29 daVinci prostatectomy, Dr. Eric Estey, at Royal Alexandra Hospital Edmonton one night stay
Flew home to Winnipeg on July 3 after 5 nights in Ramada Inn  ---  perfect recovery spot!
Catheter out July 9, so far, so good
Final pathology is 3 + 4 Gleason 7, clear margins, clear nodes, T2C, sugeron says report is "excellent"  


Ed C. (Old67)
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   Posted 7/29/2009 9:53 AM (GMT -6)   
James,
I'm glad you didn't have the severe pain associated with kidney stones. I had one back in 1973 and thought I was going to die from the pain. I had it removed through the penis. In 1975 I passed another stone by flushing it with a lot of beer drinking.
Age: 67 at Dx on 12/30/08
PSA 9/05 1.15; 8/06 1.45; 12/07 2.41; 8/08 3.9; 11/08 3.5 free PSA 11%
2 cores out of 12 were positive Gleason (4+4) and (4+5)
Negative CT scan and bone scan done on 1/16
Robotic surgery performed 2/9/09 Dr Fagin, Austin TX
Pathology report:
Prostate weighed 57 grams size:5.2 x 5.0 x 4.9 cm
Posterior lateral lesions measuring 1.5 x 1.4 x 1.0 cm showing focal capsular penetration over a distance of 3mm.
Prostatic adenocarciroma accounts for approx. 10-20% of the hemisphere.
Gleason 4+4
both nerve bundles removed,
pT3a Nx Mx, Negative margins
seminal vesicles clean, lymph nodes: not dissected
continent after 4 months
8 weeks PSA test 4/7/09 result <0.1
5 months PSA test 7/9/09 result <0.1

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