Is lack of sex drive normal after prostate surgery???

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NY-Sooner
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   Posted 12/16/2009 8:59 AM (GMT -6)   
It has been 2 1/2 years since my surgery and I have absolutely zero libido when it comes to my sex drive.   I was very lucky to have experienced no ED issues after my surgery.   I wake up every morning now with a morning erection, and  I can achieve a pretty solid erection if I want it with the help of a lot of manual stimulation. If I take 100mg viagra, I can get a really super rock solid erection that will last for a few hours.  So ED is not my problem.    My problem is that I just don't  have any more desires for sex since my surgery. 
 
 Prior to my surgery, I was thinking about sex 24/7.  I was constantly meeting , dating, and romancing beautiful women and enjoying my single life to the fullest.  I remember just the sight of sexy woman walkng down the street witha a sexy figure would  immediately give me sexual thoughts and desires to meet her.      Then immediately after my surgery,  my libido went to absolute zero.  The days prior to my surgery I was having sex every day with my girlfriend, then after my surgery when the catheter came out, I had no more desires. My libido went to zero.  I could get a solid erection after my surgery , but my desires for sex were not there. I would see a beautiful woman on Tv or walking down the street and I would aprreciate her beauty, but the sexual desires were non existant now. 
 
Well, I thought that maybe it just takes time for my desires will come back and this is just part of the healing process.  Well, it has been 2 1/2 years and still I have no sexual desires yet.  Matter of fact,  I am lucky if I even think about sex any more like I use to.   I still have desires to meet and date women, and I have no problems meeting beautifull women if I want to, but now it seems that it is more for companionship and friendship than for romance and sex.  I have had sex since my surgery, but I have to really force myself to be sexual with my partner  because I just don't have the libido that I use to have.  This has been a real problem because I have had women ask if I were gay because I didn't try to make a sexual pass at them after 2 or 3 dates.  Now I am hesitant about getting into a steady relationship because I have fear that I will be pressured  to have sex.  I don't like this new me and I want my libido back.  Here I am lucky enough to have no ED issues after my surgery, but can't use it becuase of lack of libido.   
 
  Sometimes I try to get myself aroused by looking at **** and naked women on the internet,  and it just does nothing for me like it use to.  I can look at naked woman 24/7 now, and I just don't get any sexual desires like I use too. 
 
I had my testosterone checked and it can in at 370 which my uro said was in the normal range.  I have tried taking various supplements and eating foods that are suppose to increase the libido, but without any success.  I am curious if other men here have experienced a loss of libido after prostate surgery also?
 
Age 56, Biopsy 6/2007 - PSA 4.5, 2 of 12 with  <5% cancer Gleason 6
Surgery 9/2007 Strong Memorial,  Rochester  NY with Dr. Jean Joseph (1300 plus surgeries)
 Path - Negative margins, cancer in 20% examined tissue, Gleason 6
 Post Op - No ED issues, full erections without drugs,  used 5-7 pads a day for 3 months. Now dry except for stress leaks now and then.
 All post op psa's <.04


Worried Guy
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   Posted 12/16/2009 10:05 AM (GMT -6)   
Ummm... Can we trade... ummm you know, ... parts? I mean only if you're not going to use it.
Jeff

(5 months and I still want it like before but there no ammo in the gun. There's there no gun-barrel. Heck I even have to look to find the gun.)
DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8th: 17.8. Start 2 weeks of Cipro to rule out protatitis.
May PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, Gleason 6=3+3. Bone scan and C/T scan negative.
RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7 Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm location: both lobes and apex. No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
Post Surgery Status:
Potency - 12/11 5 months, Still no activity, zip. Using pump daily since 11/11.
Incontinence - 8/20 4 full pads per day
.. 9/7 3-4 full pads per day (I'm going to try cutting down on fluids. Bad idea. I know.)
. 9/27 2 months: Still 3 pads per day.
11/14 4 months: Still 3 pads per day. 420ml/day, 91 um leak.
12/11 5 months: Still 3 pads per day. 400-450ml/day Experimenting with Nyquil.
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05; 10/13 3 months - 0.04 undetectable.


Purgatory
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   Posted 12/16/2009 10:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Sounds like your issue is not a physical one at all. Somehow your mind isn't connecting all the mental dots that are needed. Its just like they say with Viagra and the other sex drugs, they don't give you desire, so if that isn't there, not going to do a person any good.

My libido was non-existenst for 3 full months after my open surgery, it was as though my weiner was in a deep induced coma (complicated by long catheter time). But once that was over with, the little guy woke up on his own, and I was one of the fortunate ones and had no ED issues.

For many months, lets say the next 8-9 months, my normal pre-surgery desire was not as strong as before, interest might have been in the range of lets do it once a week or every week and a half. During that time, I could not be visually stimulate or stimulated by mental recollections.

Only recently, last couple of months, am I making any mental or visual connection.

Advice for you, obviously make sure there is no other medical reason perhaps with a visit to your GP, and if all ok, might be nice to talk to a therapist, no shame there.

This last part is a pet theory of mine, it may be 100% medically nuts, but let me say it. When we are post surgery, we no longer have wet ejaculations. In the natural process pre-surgery, fluids build up, and help us get "in the mood". You can clearly remember when you didnt get any in a while, you kind of get that real frisky feeling. Now, there is no fluid build up prior to sexual activities, from what I have learned, our ograsms are 100% brain driven, there is no more of the got to release the liquid feeling involved. I think, just a guess, my lesser interest (though not gone) might have something to do with that. I may pass this theory onto my uro when I see him in Jan.

Good luck to you, most men here would trade in a heart beat for your collection of "wood".

David in SC
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out  38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - began IMRT SRT - 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 in 35 days, 12/7/9 - Cath #10 in place


JoeyG
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   Posted 12/16/2009 10:21 AM (GMT -6)   
NY-Sooner,
 
Unfortunetely there are no aphrodesiacs that are legal. Therefore, since you do not have ED (and with that, the descent testosterone reading was hardly a surprise), you may be taking a medication that is blocking your drive or if not that, maybe the stress of having had PCa may be the cause. If there are no medicines that can be ruled as a possible factor, than perhaps chatting a few times with a professional could help. If it does help, you know as well as I, the benefits will be much greater than the cost.
 
Good luck!
Age -57; Diagnosed 10/05 PSA 13.4 GS 9 Organ confined (T2B)
Cryoablation 4/06 Allegheny Hosp-Dr Ralph Miller (Cohen/Miller)
Post Cryo Nadir 8/06 0.2
Rising steadily to 0.7 4/09 :-(
Steady at 0.7 (7/09) (Pomegranate???)
Looking to take next steps soon
Hoping to qualify for salvage cryo or radiation


goodlife
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   Posted 12/16/2009 5:24 PM (GMT -6)   
I have found the driving part is not as bad as having something to drive. I really miss the good ol days of rolling over and going to it. Pumping up the tire is a little tedious, and makes me less inclined to take a joyride.

Seriously, I think consulting a therapist for this woud be a good place to start.

There is a big psychological piece of PC that many guys try to tough out.

Goodlife
Age 58, PSA 4.47 Biopsy - 2/12 cores , Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
Da Vinci, Cleveland Clinic  4/14/09   Nerves spared, but carved up a little.
0/23 lymph nodes involved  pT3a NO MX
Catheter and 2 stints in ureters for 2 weeks .
Neg Margins, bladder neck negative
Living the Good Life, cancer free  6 week PSA  <.03
3 month PSA <.01 (different lab)
5 month PSA <.03 (undetectable)
6 Month PSA <.01
1 pad a day, no progress on ED.  Trimix injections


lifeguyd
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   Posted 12/16/2009 6:56 PM (GMT -6)   

If you were like many of us and not able to get an erection without drugs and or injections, I would understand your lack of interest. I envy those of you who have recovered and have a natural erection.   I am still interested and have intercourse about twice a week with the help of bi-mix injections.  I miss the spontaneity and mess that use to go along with sex.  Since you are a decade younger than me, I'm would hope things would get better for you.

I suspect that some of your lack of interst is a reaction to having to explain yourself to your sex partner.  Unless you are in a monogamous relationship and have the continued support that it brings you ,as I remember, always need to prove yourself a little.That might cause you to question why you are even doing it. You are also getting to the age where some men start to slow down sexually.  I know that I was much more active at 50 than I was at 60.  I am still a very sexual person and despite the roadblocks, I 'keep doing it' because my wonderful wife enjoys it as much as I do.


PSA up to 4.7 July 2006 , nodule noted during DRE
Biopsy 10/16/06 ,stageT2A
Very Aggressive Gleason 4+4=8  right side
DaVinci Surgery  January 2007
Post op confirms gleason 4+4=8 with no extension or invasion
no long term continence problems
Post surgery PSA continues to be "undetectable"
One side nerves spared
Bi-Mix for ED 
born in 1941


mikey1955
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   Posted 12/16/2009 7:02 PM (GMT -6)   

I can't really answer your questions, but...I'm 7 months post RP, I have no problem on the libido side. Just that the toolbox is short on some hardware, only for now, I hope...

If you're getting that much wood, then maybe there's another medical question you should ask your docs.


-Nov/Dec 07, March 08 and Dec 08: Severe perineum pain . Septra/Bactrim for 8 months for diagnosed prostatitis.
-PSA start of 2008: 5.3..... PSA June of 2008: 7.3
-14 DRE all benign or nothing felt
-TRUS Biopsy Nov 08: 5 of 8 cores positive GS 3+3 or 6. 30-65%. Perineural invasion.
-General Health: pretty good, 5' 10", 180 lbs, slim.
-Open RP surgery: May 09 both nerve bundles spared. Bilateral lymph node dissection performed. Discharged 48 hours after surgery.
-Post Surgery Pathology: pT3a N0 MX, extraprostatic extension (EPE), stage III prostate cancer, lymph nodes clear, seminal vesicles clear, Gleason upraded to 3+4 GS 7. EPE within surgical margins. Other than prostate and EPE, all tissue removed negative for cancer involvement.


MrGimpy
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   Posted 12/16/2009 7:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Its hard to say if you would have lost interest anyway in those 2 1/2 years if you had no PC. It may just be something that was going to occur anyway

Try Oysters, I heard they really work

Stress can also be a sex drive killer
Stats:
Age: 52
PSA (2008)=1.9
Biopsy on Jan 09, 2009
One (1) out of twelve (12) cores was positive, plus external nodule found
Gleason Score = 3+3
Surgery (Da Vinci, robotic prostatectomy): 4/7/09
Removed Catheter: 04/19/09
100% bladder control - Pad free 7/09
PSA 7/09 undetectable, under .0


Ed C. (Old67)
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   Posted 12/16/2009 8:29 PM (GMT -6)   
sooner,
I think your libido problem may be psychological. You should consult with a therapist. It may be caused by the fact that you have dry ejaculation.
Age: 67 at Dx on 12/30/08
PSA 9/05 1.15; 8/06 1.45; 12/07 2.41; 8/08 3.9; 11/08 3.5 free PSA 11%
2 cores out of 12 were positive Gleason (4+4) and (4+5)
Negative CT scan and bone scan done on 1/16
Robotic surgery performed 2/9/09 Dr Fagin, Austin TX
Pathology report:
Prostate weighed 57 grams size:5.2 x 5.0 x 4.9 cm
Posterior lateral lesions measuring 1.5 x 1.4 x 1.0 cm showing focal capsular penetration over a distance of 3mm.
Prostatic adenocarciroma accounts for approx. 10-20% of the hemisphere.
Gleason 4+4
both nerve bundles removed,
pT3a Nx Mx, Negative margins
seminal vesicles clean, lymph nodes: not dissected
continent after 4 months
8 weeks PSA test 4/7/09 result <0.1
5 months PSA test 7/9/09 result <0.1
8 months PSA test 10/9/09 result <0.1


Rolerbe
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   Posted 12/16/2009 10:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Question: do you get night time erections (the proverbial p*ss hard-on)?
51 YO
PSA at Dx: 8.2
DaVinci RALP: 10/31/08 -- Great MD in New Haven, CT
Negative margins, no extra-capsular involvement
One nerve spared
PSA at 0 for just over a year now.
 
 


Worried Guy
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   Posted 12/17/2009 4:58 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm still willing to trade. Sight unseen. I'll even throw in a year's supply of pee pads! And free oil changes too.
Jeff

MrGimpy
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   Posted 12/17/2009 6:48 AM (GMT -6)   
Go get yourself a Bimix or Trimix injection, ALL you will think about is sex... guaranteed
Stats:
Age: 52
PSA (2008)=1.9
Biopsy on Jan 09, 2009
One (1) out of twelve (12) cores was positive, plus external nodule found
Gleason Score = 3+3
Surgery (Da Vinci, robotic prostatectomy): 4/7/09
Removed Catheter: 04/19/09
100% bladder control - Pad free 7/09
PSA 7/09 undetectable, under .0


Worried Guy
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   Posted 12/17/2009 8:12 AM (GMT -6)   
I will "bring up" this subject at my 6 month check in. Another subject for me to study I guess...
Now if I just push... the pressure gauge... in here.... Ouch!
Anyone want to trade a slightly damaged part?
DX Age 56. First routine PSA test on April 8th: 17.8. Start 2 weeks of Cipro to rule out protatitis.
May PSA: 22.6, 3 weeks later: PSA: 23.2.
Biopsy 6/10/09: 7/12 scores positive, Gleason 6=3+3. Bone scan and C/T scan negative.
RP DaVinci -7/21/2009 @ Univ of Roch Medical Center
Left nerve gone, right partial spared.
Catheter removed - 7/31/2009 Pathology report received:
Gleason 3+4=7 Tumor size: 2.5 x 1.8 cm location: both lobes and apex. No Malignancy in Seminal Vesicle, vasa deferentia, lymph nodes 0/13
Extraprostatic extension present; Perineural invasion: present, extensive
Prostate mass 56 grams. Pathologic Stage: pT3aN0MX
Post Surgery Status:
Potency - 12/11 5 months, Still no activity, zip. Using pump daily since 11/11.
Incontinence - 8/20 4 full pads per day
.. 9/7 3-4 full pads per day (I'm going to try cutting down on fluids. Bad idea. I know.)
. 9/27 2 months: Still 3 pads per day.
11/14 4 months: Still 3 pads per day. 420ml/day, 91 um leak.
12/11 5 months: Still 3 pads per day. 400-450ml/day Experimenting with Nyquil.
Post Surgery PSA - 9/3 6 weeks - 0.05; 10/13 3 months - 0.04 undetectable.


wd40
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   Posted 12/17/2009 5:54 PM (GMT -6)   
I understand perfectly and I offer you my layman's theory as to way some us seem to have a profound loss of sex drive..

As I understand it, the prostate produces a chemical that momentarily enhances the libido when a visual or mental stimulation occurred. I think some of us, the chemical stimulus was much more than others and we enjoyed that feeling of almost instant sexual arousal. When we lost our prostate, we lost that magnificent boost in our sex drive, something that others don't miss as much since the effect was not as dramatic..

All is not lost. Try to maximize your own erotic stimulation to regain some of your former sex drive.
12/06/07 DaVinci and open prostate surgery after difficulties in breathing stopped the davinci.


Arnie
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   Posted 12/17/2009 6:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey NY-Sooner....I'm with you, brother. I'm not as far out as you from surgery (approx. 10.5 months) but my issues are identical. I think some of the guys here who do have libido, but are smack dab in the middle of major ED are missing the point. I actually had some libido after surgery, but total ED. Felt horny, but it was like having a phantom limb. Then, at about the 3-month mark, the libido disappeared. My ED has gotten progressively better, and I have recently begun to have sporadic nocturnal erections. Also, with prolonged manual and/or oral stimulation, i can get to a reasonable, and sometimes, penetratable erection. But my desire to have sex is the equivalent of watching paint dry. I have no physical problems, and am in good shape. My latest testosterone level is 371. My urologist is from the school of no supplemental T in the first year following surgery, and then after only if my T levels were below the "Standard" lab level; in my case, 280. But i never had a baseline T to compare it to because i didn't have complaints. So, was my standard level 371, 471, 671? Who knows. I understand the Catch-22 of not feeding PC it's food with T, but if there's significant T in the bloodstream, and if there's a cancer cell or two left behind, it's going to find it eventually at any level. Meanwhile, you have quality of life issues. I also have other symptoms of low T that could be "other things". I was willing to aquiesce to trying an anti-depressant to alleviate moodiness, foggy thinking, etc. and have been on Wellbutrin since Labor day. Libido is worse, if anything, and the other symptoms have not improved measurably, and could just well be the result of time and the natual healing process...........my GP doesn't think I have a psychological problem, and doesn't feel a referral to a psychologist or psychiatrist is warranted. Hell, I'm constantly looking at women, mentally undressing them, watching **** with and w/o my wife, (who is very understanding of the situation), and still no familiar feeling. Fortunately, my wife experienced the same symtpoms several years ago, and after being diagnosed with low T (for a woman) took a small supplement and voila!, she was a raging sex queen. So hormones do matter, and although I'm not a doctor, I believe the cause of yours and my low libido and many others here with similar situations is indeed low testoterone. I'm not inclined to go doctor-shopping, and realize the pros/cons of supplementation. But if this situation remains the same, at some point there's going to be a serious discussion. I am also going to consult an endocrinologist (although my GP ran levels on a half dozen markers already) as well as a medical oncologist specializing in prostate cancer before making any kind of decision. I'm also willing to give it more time. But like you, NY, at what point do you say enough is enough, I want some quality of life. In short, I don't think it's in your head, and hearing the tradeoff by some of the guys who have total ED is a case of the grass being greener on the other side of the fence. I've experienced snapshots of both, and neither is a picnic.

Hey now, the paint's almost dry in another room :-)---gotta go watch some more

Arnie in DE
Age 56 (biopsy & surgery)
PSA at Diagnosis-3.9
Biposy 8/19/08--4 of 12 cores positive; 5% involvement, Gleason 6 (3+3)
 
Surgery 1/26/09-DaVinci Robotic Prostatectomy at Presbyterian Medical Center/HUP-Phila, PA
Dr. David Lee
 
Pathology Report- Adenocarcinoma, no capsular involvement, seminal vesicles clear, lymph nodes clear, negative margins, Gleason 7 (3+4), Stage T2C, NO MX, Prostate 61.8 grams, gland involvement 2-10%
 
Catheter removed after 8 days, totally dry at 3 months. ED issues continue, Viagra (via ADC) nightly (100mgs), VED use in earnest at 6 months. "Ball Park Frank" plumping at this point......ED at 10 months continues to improve, albeit slowly. Continued daily use of 100mg Viagra (ADC). Discontinued pump use; manual stimulation to varying states of erections; achieved penetratable erection on a couple of occasions
3 month PSA--<0.1
6 month PSA--<0.1
10 month PSA--<0.1


Rolerbe
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   Posted 12/17/2009 7:10 PM (GMT -6)   
darn.  Some have motive and opportunity, but no means.  Others have the means and the opportunity, but no motive.  PCa, the gift that goes on taking.
51 YO
PSA at Dx: 8.2
DaVinci RALP: 10/31/08 -- Great MD in New Haven, CT
Negative margins, no extra-capsular involvement
One nerve spared
PSA at 0 for just over a year now.
 
 


Purgatory
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   Posted 12/17/2009 7:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Know what you mean, since my salvage radiation, have had the means and the opportunity, perhaps the motive, but the recovery from the penile pain from the radiation still there, and kills any desire to wake up the wee one. He prefers to be in a coma again until I am feeling better.

If we could mix and match on here, we could all help out each other better, lol.
Age: 57, 56 dx, PSA: 7/07 5.8, 7/08 12.3, 9/08 14.5, 10/08 16.3
3rd Biopsy: 9/08 - 7/7 Positive, 40-90% Cancer, Gleason 4+3
Open RP: 11/08, Rht nerves saved, 4 days in hospt, on catheters for 63 days, 5th one out 1/09
Path Rpt: Gleason 3+4, pT2c, 42g, 20% cancer, 1 pos margin
Incontinence:  1 Month     ED:  Non issue at any point post surgery
Post Surgery  PSA: 2/09 .05,5/09 .1, 6/09 .11. 8/09 .16
Post SRT PSA:
Latest: 7/9 met 2 rad. oncl, 7/9 cath #6 - blockage, 8/9 2nd corr surgery, 8/9 cath #7 out 38 days, 9/9 - met 3rd rad. oncl., mapped  9/9, 10/1 - 3rd corr. surgery - SP cath/hard dialation, 10/5 - 11/27 IMRT SRT 39 sess/72 gys ,cath #8 33 days, Cath #9 35 days, 12/7 - Cath #10 in place


Arnie
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   Posted 12/17/2009 7:40 PM (GMT -6)   
'Xactly, Rolerbe..................

NY-Sooner
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   Posted 12/18/2009 9:33 AM (GMT -6)   

Arnie,,thanks for your response. At least I know that I am not alone in this lack of libido.  Like you, I also asked my uro for some testosterone supplements  and she said that because pc feeds off of T, it would not be a good idea to do that, and being that my T was at 370, it was well within the normal range for a man of my age. 

Someone previously asked if I get nocturnal or morning erections. The answer is big YES.  Since about a year ago, almost every morning now I wake up with a rock solid erection.  The one difference now is that as soon as I become aware of the erection as I wake up, it goes immediately flat.  

Last night I tried a test.  I took 100mg of viagra and started looking at naked women and P**n on the internet seeing I could get some sort of sexual desires.   While watching the movies, I admired the beauty of the women,  but with respect to feeling horny or having sexual desires,  I felt absolutely nothing.  I felt no urges what so ever for sex or desires to go out and try to meet women or even desires to self stimulate, I felt nothing in the way of any sexual urges. The only thing I was feeling was a lot of congestion and a flushed face from the viagara.

After watching the movies for about an hour,  I decided to start with some self manual stimulation to see if that would jump start my desires.  Well,  I  immediately got a super rock solid erection, and I mean rock solid , but I as to jump start my desires for sex, I had nothing, nol desires , nothing.  This is what is so frustrating.  .  Like Arnie said, I think there is some hormone missing that is keeping me from getting these desires.

 


 
Age 56, Biopsy 6/2007 - PSA 4.5, 2 of 12 with  <5% cancer Gleason 6
Surgery 9/2007 Strong Memorial,  Rochester  NY with Dr. Jean Joseph (1300 plus surgeries)
 Path - Negative margins, cancer in 20% examined tissue, Gleason 6
 Post Op - No ED issues, full erections without drugs,  used 5-7 pads a day for 3 months. Now dry except for stress leaks now and then.
 All post op psa's <.04

Post Edited (NY-Sooner) : 12/18/2009 7:40:05 AM (GMT-7)


califguy
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   Posted 4/24/2010 9:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey NY Sooner - You still out there? Was wondering if you found out any thing in the last few months?
Don't get discouraged!!
CalifGuy
 
Diagnosed Feb 2008  54 years old
3+4=7 gleason
7.5 PSA
4 out of 20 biopsies were cancerous
daVinci Robotic surgery July 24, 2008  Univ of Calif San Francisco Med Center  Dr Peter Carroll
In hospital 2 nights altho I had option of leaving the next day but stayed due to distance home.
Contained in prostate, not spread
Six weeks post surgery PSA less than .01
Five month PSA less than 0.1  Lab did wrong type of PSA test so this test was not as accurate.
Eight Month PSA less than .01  Yeah!!!!
12 Month .01     15 month .01 
Time again Lab lost the current test and will have to redo it.


Gleason7
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   Posted 4/25/2010 6:36 AM (GMT -6)   
A thought! If I have the proper "grasp" of what I've been told and read....unlike women who have but one sphincter for controlling urine flow, men have two! The one at the bladder / prostate to restrict urine flow during intercourse while the lower one at the floor of the abdomen has to relax for releasing semen. Personally have found that if I feel playful with my wife, even though I had zero urge to go beforehand, I leak! which to date has been a major turnoff which might have something to do with psychologically switching off sex drive?

2.5 months post robotic prostatectomy. (2/10/10)

ChrisR
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   Posted 4/25/2010 9:25 AM (GMT -6)   
It's normal when your told you have cancer.
Dx 42
Gleason 6 (tertiary score 0)
OPEN RP 10/08  Johns Hopkins
pT2 Organ confined Gleason 6
PSA Undetectable as of 10/15/09
Next PSA 10/15/2010


Postop
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Date Joined Feb 2010
Total Posts : 379
   Posted 4/25/2010 1:16 PM (GMT -6)   
I think things are just different after prostate surgery.  My ED is gradually improving, with a full erection with manual stimulation started after 6 months, and sustained enough for sex with 100 mg of Viagra, and gradually---very very slow--getting better.  However, no reaction to mental stimulation, it needs physical contact to come to life.  That doesn't mean sex isn't interesting or enjoyable, it's just different. 
 
I think that remove the prostate must somehow disrupt some of the sensory inputs to the penis.  I'm just glad it's starting to work, and I'm willing to make the mental adjustment to the new way that sex drive operates.  Having sex is more of a deliberate conscious choice, and less something beginning on its own down below.

reputo
Regular Member


Date Joined Apr 2010
Total Posts : 26
   Posted 6/7/2010 3:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Check out what Dr. Mulhall says about anxiety, adrenalin, & stress: http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/94910.cfm
Age: 57
Biopsy: June 2009. Gleason Score: 3+3.
Zoladex 10.8 mg subq implant on Nov 2, 2009
da Vinci RRP on March 5, 2010
Pathology: margins clear
6-week post-op PSA .06
April '10, Cialis 10 mg 2xweek, 1/3 of the time results in partial erection
Bladder neck dilation May 2, 2010


Klaats
New Member


Date Joined Sep 2009
Total Posts : 15
   Posted 6/8/2010 12:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Not that I would advocate the use of illegal drugs but...............
Don't really use "it" anymore myself but remember it being a potent aphrodisiac.
Age 56 - 6'0" 215lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - Feb '07-3.9, Feb '08-4.8, Feb '09-5.5, July '09-11.4, Sept. '09-6.1 Oct. '09 4.3
Biopsy - 12 core. 08/12/09 - 10 % of one core, Gleason (3+3)6,
Second analysis same biopsy - 14% of one core, Gleason (3+4)7
Aureon Score 19 out of 100 (see aureon.com)
Volume 10/13/09 - 38 Grams
Brachytherapy 11/10/09 with Dr. Brian Moran at Chicago Prostate. 82 palladium seeds. Uraxotrol 10mg once daily and Alleve 2-3 times daily.
3 month follow up PSA 1.3
6 month follow up PSA 1.2. Off Uraxotrol, no urinary issues. All sex fine.

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