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georcass
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   Posted 5/6/2010 12:12 PM (GMT -7)   
Hello Everyone -
 
I have a question about shark cartilage.  A friend of mine told me that her husband had brachy for PCa 17 years ago.  He has had no recurrence whatsoever.  They attribute this to him taking 30 grams of shark cartilage a day. 
 
My husband had his cryosurgery on March 22nd.  His numbers (PSA 19, Gleason 7, T2b) put him at high risk of recurrence before 5 years.  I was wondering if any of you have tried shark cartilage, or if you would recommend it. 
 
It is expensive in this high dosage, but it would be worth it to keep him cancer free.  Also, from what I have read, there are no adverse side affects.  I am thinking that if it can't hurt, and it might help, why not try it. 
 
Please share your thoughts with me on this.  Thank you all in advance for your helpfulness.
 
Georgeann

Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 5/6/2010 12:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Pretty certain it hasn't even been mentioned here before...I wouldn't spend any money on it.
 

Shark cartilage is a dietary supplement made from the dried and powdered cartilage of a shark; that is, from the tough material that composes a shark's skeleton. Shark cartilage is claimed to combat and/or prevent a variety of illnesses, most notably cancer. It is often marketed under the names Carticin, Cartilade, or BeneFin. A derivative of it named Neovastat was tested by AEterna Zentaris as an angiogenesis inhibitor and showed promising results in animals. Two clinical trials of Neovastat were completed in 2007,[1] showing negative results.[2]

The benefits of this supplement have not been scientifically proven, nor has shark cartilage been reviewed by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). However, its pervasive use is due to the incorrect notion that sharks do not get cancer. This idea became popular with the best-selling book Sharks Don't Get Cancer by Dr. William Lane, published in 1992. This assertion even appears in the film on sharks at the Monterey Bay Aquarium (although the aquarium does not endorse the use of shark cartilage).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_cartilage


Age 55   - 5'11"   215lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - July 2007 & Jan 2008 -> 1.3
Biopsy - 03/04/08 -> Gleason 6 
06/25/08 - Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy
05/14/09  - 4th Quarter PSA -> less then .01
11/20/09 - 18 Month PSA -> less then .01
Surgeon - Keith A. Waguespack, M.D.


BB_Fan
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   Posted 5/6/2010 12:48 PM (GMT -7)   
There are several dietary suppliments that will slow the growth of PCa, but I have never heard for shark cartilage. I would take selenium, vitamin D, vitanin E, pomegranate extract and lycopene before spending any money on shark cartilage.
Dx with PC Dec 2008 at 56, PSA 3.4, Biopsy: T1c, Geason 7 (3+4)

Robotic Surgery March 2009 Hartford Hospital, Dr Wagner
Pathology Report: T2c, Geason 8, organ confined, negitive margins, lymph nodes negitive
nerves spared, no negitive side effects of surgery

One night in hospital, back to work in 3 weeks

psa Junl 09 <.01
psa Oct 09 <.01
psa Jan 10 .07 re-test one week later .05
psa Mar 10 .28 re-test two weeks later .31


BB_Fan
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   Posted 5/6/2010 12:52 PM (GMT -7)   
Best bet for your husband, if he hasn't done it already, is to go on a low fat diet. Getting to and maintaining an optimal weight with a low fat diet wil probably do more than just suppliments
Dx with PC Dec 2008 at 56, PSA 3.4, Biopsy: T1c, Geason 7 (3+4)

Robotic Surgery March 2009 Hartford Hospital, Dr Wagner
Pathology Report: T2c, Geason 8, organ confined, negitive margins, lymph nodes negitive
nerves spared, no negitive side effects of surgery

One night in hospital, back to work in 3 weeks

psa Junl 09 <.01
psa Oct 09 <.01
psa Jan 10 .07 re-test one week later .05
psa Mar 10 .28 re-test two weeks later .31


goodlife
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   Posted 5/6/2010 2:29 PM (GMT -7)   

Kind of like the old joke about why eating carrots is good for your eyes, have you ever seen a rabbit wearing glasses ?

Have you ever heard of a shark with prosate cancer ?

There are thousands of men who have been cancer free after brachy without taking anything special.  And there are those who have taken every good there is and still have a reoccurence.

And, there are many sellers of supplements out there who love to make good money selling us unproven supplements.

I think the guys on here who advocate a heart healthy diet, exercise, and weight mamagement are the closest to the truth on this stuff.  Even if it doesn't help, you feel great anyway.

Welcome to HW.  Beware of those selling supplements that are proven to prevent cancer.


Goodlife
 
Age 58, PSA 4.47 Biopsy - 2/12 cores , Gleason 4 + 5 = 9
Da Vinci, Cleveland Clinic  4/14/09   Nerves spared, but carved up a little.
0/23 lymph nodes involved  pT3a NO MX
Catheter and 2 stints in ureters for 2 weeks .
Neg Margins, bladder neck negative
Living the Good Life, cancer free  6 week PSA  <.03
3 month PSA <.01 (different lab)
5 month PSA <.03 (undetectable)
6 Month PSA <.01
1 pad a day, no progress on ED.  Trimix injection
No pads, 1/1/10,  9 month PSA < .01
1 year psa (364 days) .01


daveshan
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   Posted 5/6/2010 4:44 PM (GMT -7)   
This myth is based on the fact that sharks don't get cancer. There is no evidence whatsoever that eating any part of a shark conveys this trait to humans. One might as well say that eating beef will allow you to eat and digest grass.

Sorry, I have similar stats and believe me if there was any truth in this I'd be all over it.
Diagnosed 12-09 age 55
07-06 PSA 2.5
01-08 PSA 5.5 (PCP did not tell me of increase or schedule follow-up!!!!)
09-09 PSA 6.5 Sent for consult with Urologist
11-09 Consult, scheduled for biopsy, found out about PSA from '08 (yes I was pissed)
12-09 Biopsy, initial Gleason 9 (4+5) later reduced to 8 with tertiary 5, ain't much but I'll take it.
01-10 Bone Scan, "appears negative"
03-01-10 RRP in Durango CO by Dr Sejal Quale and Shandra Wilson, no naked eye evidence of spread, Vesicles and lymph nodes taken for microscopic exam.

03-16-10 Removal of cath' and pathology results of samples.
Multifocal carcinoma with areas of Gleason pattern 3, 4 and 5, Overall Gleason grade 4+4 with tertiary 5, Bilateral involving 21% of left lobe, 3% of right lobe, Invasion of left Seminal vesicle, 9 lymph nodes removed all negative, Tumor staging pT3b NO MX

04-23-10 PSA <0.04
05-03-10 1 week without pads


georcass
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   Posted 5/6/2010 5:16 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks for all the answers. You guys really know what you're talking about. I guess, sometimes I just just feel kind of deperate and think of trying anything.

I really appreciate all of your input.

Georgeann

BillyMac
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   Posted 5/6/2010 5:22 PM (GMT -7)   
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