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81GyGuy
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   Posted 9/7/2017 7:52 AM (GMT -6)   
There are a number of us here on the forum who reside in Florida, which, in a very short time apparently, will not be living up to its name as the Sunshine State.

Not with that behemoth of a wind and rain event known as Irma bearing down on us here.

The latest track forecast for this thing (as of this writing, about 9:00 AM Thursday morning) is for it to veer a bit to the east, scraping the east Florida coast, before possibly, and unfortunately, moving on to the Carolinas.

Having spent most of my life living with these things, I have just come to have a philosophical attitude. Not "why me?" or "why where I live?" but, simply, "well, that's just the way it is."

But musing here as I type this, it also makes me wonder if perhaps there is a certain odd similarity between the macrocosm of a Cat 5 hurricane threatening one's larger world and the microcosm of this PCa beast threatening one's smaller, inner world.

Perhaps a similar mental approach to these two situations comes to be in order. In both cases we do what we can to prepare for it, taking what preventative steps we can, whether it's boarding up the windows or storing food and water for the one, or taking medications and getting medical treatment for the other. Maybe there really is a certain eerie similarity between the two.

But while there may indeed be a certain strange psychological similarity between the two, between the growth and movement of a Cat 5 hurricane bearing down on oneself, and the growth and movement of the PCa beast within oneself, in both cases the crisis moments usually pass, and we can return to a degree of normalcy, at least for now.

But, getting back to the real-world event that is Irma, for now any well–wishing for us Floridians who may get hit by this thing is indeed appreciated, but for most of us it's going to be okay. But thanks.

And above deep philosophical observation now over.
Age: 71
Chronic prostatitis (age 60 on)
BPH w/ urinary obstruction, 6/2011
TURP, 7/2011
Ongoing high PSA, 7/2011-12/2011
Biopsy, 12/2011: positive 3/12 (90%, 70%, 5%)
Gleason 6(3+3), T1c
No mets, PCa likely still organ contained
IMRT w/ HT (Lupron), 4/2012-6/2012
PSAs (since post-IMRT): 0.1 or lower

BillyBob@388
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   Posted 9/7/2017 9:45 AM (GMT -6)   
Be safe, 81! Have you bailed out of there yet? I just heard from friends trying to get up I-75 back into Georgia, said the first 107 miles took 4.5 hours.

It has been a crazy couple of weeks since the eclipse went down the center of the country on 8/21/17, then record rainfall setting Harvey made landfall in Texas 4 days later, now not many days after that an even worse( so they seem to fear) Irma is closing in on us! Not to forget all those big fires in Portland, LA and other western areas, it's crazy out there! But I guess there is always something trying to get us, if it ain't PCa, it's something else!

81GyGuy
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   Posted 9/7/2017 10:03 AM (GMT -6)   
BillyBob -

Bailing? Nope, me and my boys are just going to hunker down here in Gainesville and wait and watch as the thing roars past us. (Wouldn't it be nice if it just roars out to sea?)

You're right, things are a little nutty right now weather-wise. So let's all say a prayer for those who have had, and are having, to endure some pretty rough stuff these days.

However, God willing, this too shall pass, and better, brighter days are ahead for us all.
Age: 71
Chronic prostatitis (age 60 on)
BPH w/ urinary obstruction, 6/2011
TURP, 7/2011
Ongoing high PSA, 7/2011-12/2011
Biopsy, 12/2011: positive 3/12 (90%, 70%, 5%)
Gleason 6(3+3), T1c
No mets, PCa likely still organ contained
IMRT w/ HT (Lupron), 4/2012-6/2012
PSAs (since post-IMRT): 0.1 or lower

InTheShop
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   Posted 9/7/2017 10:07 AM (GMT -6)   
Stay safe out there.

I've got family in Tampa who are preparing for this.

Andrew
I'll be in the shop.
Age 57, 52 at DX
PSA:
4.2 10/11, 1.9 6/12, 1.2 12/12, 1.0 5/13, .6 11/13,
.7 5/14, .5 10/14, .5 4/15, .3 10/15, .3 4/16, .4 10/16, .4 5/17
G 3+4
Stage T1C
2 out of 14 cores positive
Treatment IGRT - 2/2012
My latest blog post

RobLee
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   Posted 9/7/2017 10:07 AM (GMT -6)   
81Guy, I hope you are safe where you are. I suspect with you being inland it will just be wind and rain.

Several days ago those of us in the Tampa bay area were not so sure, especially being close to the beach. But the models started shifting eastward. On Tuesday I took a normal shopping trip and did not notice anything out of the ordinary. That evening my wife went to Sam's club and said all the water was gone and there were long lines for gas.

I've only witnessed one tropical storm since moving here in 2013, Andrea, with 60-70 mph winds. I just stayed inside and watched the palms sway. Car got a good washing. I hope that's all we get from this one as well.

Prayers go out to those along the east coast and up into the Carolinas.

JNF
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   Posted 9/7/2017 10:18 AM (GMT -6)   
Irmageddon.

My in-laws are on their way to us in Atlanta traveling from the Daytona Beach area. They are in south Georgia on I-75 and have yet to reach 20 mph. Another friend leaving the Georgia coast said there is not a single hotel room to be found in Georgia.

The real exodus will be tomorrow as the schools and government offices will all be closed.
PSA 59 on 8-26-2010 age 60. Biopsy 9-8-2010 12/12 positive, 20-80% involved, PNI in 3 cores, G 3+3,3+4,and 4+3=G7, T2b.
Eligard and Jalyn started on 10-7-2010. IMRT to prostate and lymph nodes started on 11-8-2010, HDR Brachytherapy December 6 and 13, 2010.
PSA < .1 since February 2011

RandyJoe
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   Posted 9/7/2017 10:22 AM (GMT -6)   
BE SAFE! We're awaiting a family being referred to us by our church who are evacuating from south Florida. We have extra room, if you decide you need to bail. We're in middle western Georgia and might not even see any rain if the projected path continues veering east.

NKinney
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   Posted 9/7/2017 10:36 AM (GMT -6)   
I've been the beneficiary of Red Cross Disaster Relief hot meal services following a Florida hurricane. It was God-sent.

Where I was at the time had no electricity for nearly a week and we were several days without running water due to the storm. It was a relatively isolated ocean-front location; it was about 10-miles to the closest "convenience store" and close to 20 miles to the closest legit "supermarket" (and no telling what their shelves looked like) so hopping into the car and running out to pick up something was completely out of the question. And besides, we had so much clean-up work to do, nobody had time to leave the property.

But every day for a week at about 11am and again at around 5pm, the Red Cross truck pulled up with a warmed meal and ice cold drinks. As I said, it was God-sent.

I've already made a Red Cross-Harvey $$$ donation. The Red Cross-Irma donation is forthcoming from me as soon as they open the tab for Irma-specific donations. Give generously.
-Norm

Post Edited (NKinney) : 9/7/2017 11:26:12 AM (GMT-6)


Gear
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   Posted 9/7/2017 11:43 AM (GMT -6)   
Have a shop down in Daytona Florida. Last year the eye of Matthew missed by 30 some miles. I was also thinking of the similarities of health and other life changing events.
DX 9/2011 @ age 50, PSA: 2.1, 10/6/2011 RP Da-Vinci
4-3 Gleason, PT2C, -SV, -Mar,+PI, NX... <.02 first 4+ years
Start SRT@ PSA 0.25, 38 Sessions-68.4 Gy, Finished 02/1/17
PSA: 5/17-.12, 8/17-.031,

JNF
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   Posted 9/7/2017 12:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Gear,

What kind of shop? I am in Palm Coast every other month. I should drop by and meet you sometime. Are you staying for Irma?

Jack
PSA 59 on 8-26-2010 age 60. Biopsy 9-8-2010 12/12 positive, 20-80% involved, PNI in 3 cores, G 3+3,3+4,and 4+3=G7, T2b.
Eligard and Jalyn started on 10-7-2010. IMRT to prostate and lymph nodes started on 11-8-2010, HDR Brachytherapy December 6 and 13, 2010.
PSA < .1 since February 2011

garyi
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   Posted 9/7/2017 1:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Sitting here in Ft. Lauderdale, taking a break from preparations. I've been through Andrew, Wilma, and at least ten other hurricanes. This one looks like it will be the worst. Just like PCa, I spit in Irma's face.

This too shall pass, but like with PCa, thoughts and prayers to all in harms way.
70 years old @ Dx, LUTS for 6 years
PSA's never over 3.0, Now 2.3
Ulcerative Colitis since 1973
TURP 2/16, G3+4 discovered,
3T MRI fusion guided biopsy 6/16
14 cores; G 3+3, one G3+4, Grade T1b
Second 3T MRI 1/17
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Mostly Dry so far

Gear
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   Posted 9/7/2017 2:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Jack, I live near home office in Pittsburgh and I am really hoping I don't have to go down for this. Be safe. _Ken

Post Edited (Gear) : 9/7/2017 5:00:30 PM (GMT-6)


Bohemond
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   Posted 9/7/2017 8:53 PM (GMT -6)   
Keep your head down 81.

My sister moved from Massachusetts to Savannah last year. Haven't heard from her but hope she's going somewhere inland.
Jim
Age 71
-2002-PSA 9.4, 5 of 10 cores positive - 30-50%.
-RP April 2002. PT3B N0 MX Gleason=7 (3+4), 75% left lobe; small focus rt lobe.
-PSA low of 0.01; slow rise to 0.4 (Aug 2009).
-SRT Jan/Feb 2010. One lymph node targeted. Casodex 3 months during SRT -PSA 0.00 through Apr 2014;
-0.02 Oct 2014; 0.04 Apr 2016; 0.23 Oct 2016; 0.51 Jan 2017; 0.64 Mar 2017, 0.92 Jun 2017

RobLee
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   Posted 9/9/2017 8:25 AM (GMT -6)   
From the latest track update it looks like Irma will hit us directly, or worse, pass just off the coast in the gulf. Yesterday I had to rescue my sister's MIL from her home right on Tampa bay. Biggest concern now is how long we might be without power. Lots of food and drink stockpiled, but others may not be so fortunate.
This is gonna be big.

compiler
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   Posted 9/10/2017 4:46 PM (GMT -6)   
BUMP.

Please keep the updates coming.

Mel

Gear
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   Posted 9/10/2017 6:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Not sure of the purpose of these newscasters standing in the rain trying to talk. Briefly showing wind effects may have some value but many are just standing in areas that get minimal rain and winds. This does nothing but get the newscaster wet.
DX 9/2011 @ age 50, PSA: 2.1, 10/6/2011 RP Da-Vinci
4-3 Gleason, PT2C, -SV, -Mar,+PI, NX... <.02 first 4+ years
Start SRT@ PSA 0.25, 38 Sessions-68.4 Gy, Finished 02/1/17
PSA: 5/17-.12, 8/17-.031,

Faustmann
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   Posted 9/11/2017 11:29 AM (GMT -6)   
We have wind gusts of around 50 mph and moderate to heavy rain at this hour in Athens, GA. about 50 miles east of Atlanta.Power still on.

InTheShop
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   Posted 9/11/2017 12:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Spent most of yesterday watching news on this. My step-daughter was in Bradenton and survived just fine. The shift in the storm track put her on the west side of a cat-2 storm. This morning she reported no damage, no loss of power, no flooding.

They did have a tree limb fall.

It could have been much worse for them.
Andrew
I'll be in the shop.
Age 57, 52 at DX
PSA:
4.2 10/11, 1.9 6/12, 1.2 12/12, 1.0 5/13, .6 11/13,
.7 5/14, .5 10/14, .5 4/15, .3 10/15, .3 4/16, .4 10/16, .4 5/17
G 3+4
Stage T1C
2 out of 14 cores positive
Treatment IGRT - 2/2012
My latest blog post

NKinney
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   Posted 9/11/2017 12:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Irma's eye passed 10 miles (Cudjoe) from MIL's home when the sustained winds were 130mph Sunday morning. That puts the eye wall right on top of her. She rode out the storm at her next door neighbor's house. (Wouldn't have been my choice, but Conchs are a different breed!) None of her 5 kids have heard from her in the last 36 hours, since early Sunday (she placed a phone call during the lull of the hurricane eye), but that's not unusual after a big storm thru the Keys. She's lived in the Lower Keys for close to 60-years and never evacuated for weather—they did evacuate during Bay of Pigs when the CIA took over their ocean-front (with deep water access) house for 6-months.


81GyGuy, how's Hogtown?

Post Edited (NKinney) : 9/11/2017 7:46:17 PM (GMT-6)


RobLee
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   Posted 9/11/2017 7:30 PM (GMT -6)   
Power went out just before 1AM, still off now. RO called and tomorrow's radiation also cancelled. Trying to eat up what we can from the fridge before it spoils, but no cooking and worse, NO AC. This is Florida after all. Also no coffee. Very few stores open. Lots of debris on the roads but no major damage in our community.

I heard two thirds of Florida is without power.

garyi
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   Posted 9/11/2017 7:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Me too. No power for 48 hours, no water, landscaping a mess, lost trees....but still kicking here in hot and humid Ft Lauderdale. We have a small generator for the frig, fan, lamp and radio.

Paradise....as long as the fuel lasts.

81GyGuy
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   Posted 9/12/2017 9:05 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello, everyone. Finally got power back sometime during this past night, so I can make a few observations about this most recent, very unwelcome, Florida visitor.

BTW, having the power suddenly pop back on after it has been annoyingly off for several hours, has to be one of life's significantly underrated pleasures. It elicits both the announcement of a "Finally!" and such a sigh of heartfelt relief when it happens.

As a more or less lifelong Florida resident, I have seen plenty of hurricanes come through here in north central Florida, sometimes being directly in the paths of them, more usually off to the sides. One thing I have come to observe about them all is that, if one sees enough of them, they each come to develop their own personalities, in terms of intensity, forcefulness, the fear they create, and the amount of simple awe that each generates.

This Irma has already formed in my mind as one of the worst of the lot, both in terms of the sheer ugliness and fearfulness of the thing, coupled with all the dismaying damage that it has caused. Just learned from watching CNN: up to 25% of the homes in the Florida Keys destroyed, millions still without power, millions of lives and livelihoods disrupted.

But we will rebuild. Why? Because that's what we, as humans, do. It is one of our most admirable qualities.

For me, hurricane veteran, this most recent experience was a collection of events that I had witnessed many times before, but, as with each storm having its own personality, each experience with one of them becomes memorable in some way in its own right.

Such as with watching the monster, a Cat 5 at that point, creeping along the TV screen map, nervously waiting to see which way it turns next. The relief felt when it turns its path away from us, then at the same time the guilt of knowing that one may inadvertently be wishing it away on to a path of destruction elsewhere. Things such as this storm produce such a range of complex, conflicting emotions.

Or as when driving through the streets of the city in darkness and pelting rain, through wet, deserted streets with darkened traffic lights (power off), and surrounding darkened buildings, in the heavy wind and rain, all because one's 96-year old mother in her across-town condominium has not answered her cell phone, and one has to find out of she is all right. (Turned out she had simply misplaced the phone, and had not heard it ringing).

Then driving back home, with the rain seeming to pelt a little harder on the windshield now, and the trees planted in the street medians starting to sway a bit more than before, and the rushing sheets of rain becoming highlighted in the shine of the headlights and the streetlights (the ones that are still working), with a kind of eerie, haunting silver gleam. It’s sort of like being in a kind of uneasy, menacing dream, not quite a nightmare, but one filled with growing desperation and tension. But this is no dream. This is real.

For me the most ominous and unsettling feature of these hurricane experiences has always been the sound of the wind, as it wraps around the house, and then gusts higher for a few seconds, leaving the realization with us that it is totally surrounding us, and we are now totally within its power. The wind here in Gainesville from Irma was reported in today's local newspaper as only 56 mph (hmmm.. felt higher to me), tropical storm force, not so bad as these things go. But even at that speed the sound of the wind is chilling, and produces a sort of primal fear in one as to what that wind may be capable of doing.

I think one of the best images I ever came across for describing what the sound of a hurricane wind is like, at least from a psychological perspective, is a scene from the original Godzilla film (1955). A small group is on an island being overwhelmed by a typhoon, with its accompanying high wind and rain, in the middle of the night. As the group huddles together and listens to the wind, they begin wondering if what they hearing is the wind, or the roar of the creature Godzilla, or the two combined. The roar of a strong hurricane wind produces that kind of effect

Right now, this morning, as I look up from my monitor, and out the adjacent window, I see that the sun is shining and there are white, puffy clouds across the sky. Everything looks perfectly normal now. Like a typical mid-September day here in north central Florida. Except for the numerous bunches of small, scattered tree branches that now fill the yard, the raking up of which will fill my afternoon today. But that's okay. I have done it many times before.

Nature has it cycles. This has happened before and will happen again. Life goes on, however unpleasant the immediacy of it may be.

But our resiliency as a species makes me proud. Give us your best short, nature. You may knock us down, but for sure we’re going to get up again.
Age: 71
Chronic prostatitis (age 60 on)
BPH w/ urinary obstruction, 6/2011
TURP, 7/2011
Ongoing high PSA, 7/2011-12/2011
Biopsy, 12/2011: positive 3/12 (90%, 70%, 5%)
Gleason 6(3+3), T1c
No mets, PCa likely still organ contained
IMRT w/ HT (Lupron), 4/2012-6/2012
PSAs (since post-IMRT): 0.1 or lower

Post Edited (81GyGuy) : 9/12/2017 9:09:50 AM (GMT-6)


NKinney
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   Posted 9/13/2017 8:24 AM (GMT -6)   
Nearly 72 hours after Irma's eye passed within 10 miles of her with sustained winds of 130mph, we finally got word of MIL's safety.

A FEMA worker with satellite phone made his way to her remote location (in the Lower Keys), got the cell phone number of one of her kids, and sent a photo of her smiling which was quickly distributed on the family group text.

Still no detail on the extent of damage, but we know—3 days later—that she's ok. Relief.

Post Edited (NKinney) : 9/13/2017 8:36:51 AM (GMT-6)


Tudpock18
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   Posted 9/13/2017 11:37 AM (GMT -6)   
We live in Naples, FL and chose to ride out the storm. I can tell you it was quite an experience. We had gusts to 142 MPH and the eye passed right over us. The "freight train" experience was when the eye wall hit with sustained winds over 100 MPH. It was deafening. We went outside when the eye passed and there were gentle breezes and a little blue sky - and flooded streets - and an overflowing swimming pool. Fortunately the predicted storm surge was not bad so we had much less significant flooding than we could have had.

We survived just fine. No damage to the house but lots of debris in the yard, some missing screens on our lanai and some panels down on our fencing. We were without power until this morning and no ATT cell service until yesterday. We still have a "boil water" order. Sleeping in the sweltering heat was not fun. Our community has lots of damage like downed pool cages, trees uprooted and broken fences. Fortunately, little loss of life or injuries.

My Halloween costume this year will be a "I Survived Hurricane Irma" t-hirt with a life preserver around my waist.
Forum Moderator-Prostate Cancer. Age 62 (71 now), G 3 + 4 = 7, T1C, PSA 4.2, 2/16 cancerous, 27cc. Brachytherapy 12/9/08. 73 Iodine-125 seeds. Everything continues to function normally. PSA: 6 mo: 1.4, 1 yr: 1.0, 2 yr: .8, 3 yr: .5, 4/5 yr: .2, 6-9 yr: 1. My docs are "delighted"! My journey:
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NKinney
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   Posted 9/13/2017 11:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Glad to hear you are fine, Tudpock18, following your experience. Naples is the other area in the mainland US which was especially hard-hit...although I suspect the homes in Naples are better constructed than the typical homes in the Keys!

It's amazing to me how crystal clear and beautiful the skies turn (from the high pressure zone which follows) very shortly after the hurricanes pass.

I heard a great quote from a guy about rebuilding and about why he lives in the highly exposed Keys. He said, "It's closer to Cuba than to Walmart!"

Post Edited (NKinney) : 9/13/2017 1:01:00 PM (GMT-6)

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