ED supplements post-DaVinci?

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Bbqcity
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   Posted 9/12/2017 10:20 AM (GMT -6)   
I had my prostate removed last Oct and I had my one year checkup today. PSA remains at <.1, which is the lowest they will report, but my love-life stinks. Am working on getting my Bi-Mix dose regulated (had some issues with Tri-mix) and will not buy anymore Cialis (was on the 5 mg daily plan, but doesn't appear to be helping). Talked to dr. about this today and need to get back to pumping. He mentioned that one of his straight ED patients was having good results with something called Rhino 7. Says hesitant to recommend, but would throw it out there. We talked a little about ED with and without a prostate and believe the goal is the same-promoting blood flow. I looked it up on Amazon and it's hard to tell if it works. Also, saw something called Round 10 that was getting good reviews, but hard to tell what their issues were before they started taking it.
So, is anyone taking any ED supplements after prostatectomy? I tried searching the forum for any previous discussions on this subject, but couldn't find anything. As far as I can tell, there is not a way to just search the PCa threads; if you know a way, please share.

Thanks,
Bill Gilleland
Lexington, NC (aka BBQ capital of the world.....)

tennisplayer
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   Posted 9/12/2017 3:07 PM (GMT -6)   
I do not take any supplements. I'm almost a year out from surgery, and have done penile rehab off and on using Viagra/Cialis. I have had response to the drugs, although I wish recovery was faster. I have read that it could take between one and two years for the nerves to recover.

I recently saw a urologist specializing in penile rehab. In my conversation with him he mentioned supplements. He doesn't recommend them as there is no clinical testing done on them, plus they aren't FDA approved.

I can't tell if your doc says you should take them, or is only offering anecdotal evidence. I'd be careful. There is a good book out there on the subject of ED after prostate surgery. It was written by Dr. John Mulhall of Sloan Kettering. Look for it on Amazon, it's not that expensive. You will find helpful information there.

Good luck.
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lapilot
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   Posted 9/12/2017 4:18 PM (GMT -6)   
I never heard of the drug so I Google it and this popped up.

/www.fda.gov/drugs/resourcesforyou/consumers/buyingusingmedicinesafely/medicationhealthfraud/ucm567244.htm
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biopsy 9/5/13, PSA 6.2, 13 core of which 6 are postive
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left laterial base 10% G6(3+3)
left laterial apex 10% G6(3+3)
right base 15% G7(3+4)
right laterial base 15% G6(3+3)
right laterial mid 60% G6(3+3)
right lateral apex 20% G6(3+3)
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path T2c N0 Stage IIB
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PeterDisAbelard.
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   Posted 9/12/2017 6:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Bill,

I'm not much of a fan of ED supplements. I'm afraid they are pretty sketchy. They tend to fall into two categories -- pills that don't do anything and pills that work somewhat because they secretly contain prescription drugs. The warning from the FDA that lapilot found for us suggest that the Rh:no 7 falls in that second category -- it contains sildenafil (the same drug as in Viagra). I found someone selling Rovnd 10 on eBay and the ingredient list they show on their ad contains yohimbine (probably ineffective and, I think, illegal) plus Horny Goat Weed (an herb that contains Icariin -- a substance that acts similarly to sildenafil only is 1/100th as strong.) Most likely Rovnd 10 falls in the first category -- pills that don't do much -- unless it also secretly contains sildenafil too.

The reason they adulterate their pills with sildenafil is because it is actually very inexpensive on the international market and it does work fairly well. But you can get it without buying sketchy male "supplements". It is available as a generic drug in the US and can be had fairly inexpensively at your local pharmacy if the prescription is written correctly.

The reason I used the odd spellings for the names of the pills is because I don't particularly want the forum spammed by vendors who google for the names of their products to see where they are being discussed.
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4 bxs 2010-2012: 1&2 neg, 3 pos 1/14 6(3+3) 3-4% (2nd opn. 7(3+4)), 4 neg
DaVinci 6/14/12. "some" nerve sparing on left
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Post Edited (PeterDisAbelard.) : 9/12/2017 6:19:23 PM (GMT-6)

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